Micro 1039: The Coalition [game over!]

[MBot]

galron was wayyyy subdued as town when i played with him, it doesnt really ping to me.

"looks like the sort of iso that could get day 1 miselimmed" might have been a better phrasing. im, idk, drawing analogy to an archetype, i guess; not practically worrying she's the yeet (like, if we eliminate within the coalition, she's almost certainly not). i get that's a pretty fuzzy and subjective (and perhaps even unreliable!) read, but the questions are relevant, i might feel comfortable calling it in slightly less hazy terms if she comes back to answer.

Is there anyone here who doesn't think Looker is town?

if the point is that looker should self-heal, yes, i agree

I played with MBOT in a newbie game, and she had considerably more content and was less LHF.

T3 you're on my shit list. I'll be watching you! I had more content when things were actually moving. I'm more of a watch and analyze kind of person. Yes, I'll be actually commenting on my thoughts this game as I see them to show where my reads are and why they are there. You're posting more in depth thoughts. Is that AI?

[mc esther]

It wasn't rhetorical - I didn't know if you had experience with MBot the same way you have experience with Galron. And none of your other reads you described as "strong".

oh, fair question! no, i dont know mbot at all, i just skimmed her post history.

I don't characterize my play as being subdued

honestly, when i first heard you were excited to play with looker, my thought was "woah, this guy gets excited about things?". overall, youre not particularly high-volume; youre a little bit closed off in expressing your reads; i could be wrong on this point, but you dont strike me as a wild gambits type of player; youre very measured; and you have an extremely consistent tone that comes across to me as, unfailingly polite. "subdued" is the word i'd use for it, youre not particularly high-energy, and you dont blurt out everything in your head. i kinda view your gameplay as just, steadily prodding at things, waiting for the contradictions to shake out. youre not really, idk, "in it for the drama".

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and, okay, mbot's answers make me less certain. my thought so far, all game, has been "there's just no way someone with even a single previous scumgame posts like this as scum". i still think this just seems like the sort of iso that scum in fact consciously avoid, but i can very vaguely imagine a literal first scumgame being this awkward.

i dont mind the answer to galron's question, i dont think it's a particularly good opinion for town to hold, but my expectation was that scum!mbot would view the question as an accusation to back away from; where she kinda (though not with much confidence, so again, she didnt entirely 'pass' this 'test') went with "yes, actually".

[Galron]

UNVOTE: mbot

The last couple of posts have been alright, although even if I don't agree with some of what was said.

[Galron]

honestly, when i first heard you were excited to play with looker, my thought was "woah, this guy gets excited about things?". overall, youre not particularly high-volume; youre a little bit closed off in expressing your reads; i could be wrong on this point, but you dont strike me as a wild gambits type of player; youre very measured; and you have an extremely consistent tone that comes across to me as, unfailingly polite. "subdued" is the word i'd use for it, youre not particularly high-energy, and you dont blurt out everything in your head. i kinda view your gameplay as just, steadily prodding at things, waiting for the contradictions to shake out. youre not really, idk, "in it for the drama".

That's probably a fair assessment. I'm older than the site average I think and had all my internet drama in the 90s, so things bounce off me for the most part, and I'm prone to let others have the last word. I do get excited about playing with Looker. We were in an Open that I repped into, actually the one I formed this account for, and had a lot of fun in it. So whenever I see him I try to get in a game with him. Lately he's been chasing me around, repping into games right when I get killed. Back to your initial point, though, I can get animated when I'm frustrated. That happens more often than I'd like.

[Umlaut]

VOTE: Andante
HURT: T3
HEAL: Umlaut

Are you just sheeping me on this vote or do you see something independently?

[T3]

MBot is still scum. I have nothing else to contribute.

[Datisi]

vote count 1.04

with 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-01-17 00:15:00).

coalition

mc esther [5]:

mc esther, Galron, Enchant, MBot, Looker
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Umlaut [5]:

Galron, mc esther, Umlaut, Looker, T3
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Looker [4]:

Galron, Enchant, ProHawk, Umlaut
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Galron [4]:

mc esther, Looker, Enchant, Galron
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T3 [3]:

mc esther, T3, Enchant
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Enchant [2]:

Enchant, T3
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ProHawk [1]:

Looker
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Andante [1]:

Looker
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MBot [0]:

yeet

mc esther [2]:

Enchant, T3

Andante [2]:

Umlaut, Looker

not voting [5]:

ProHawk, MBot, mc esther, Andante, Galron

mod notes

~ this is the setup where i cannot use my vote counter and must count votes by hand, so let me know if i make any mistakes

flavour

[Andante]

birthday over, out of my list!!
HURT: Looker

[mc esther]

yeah, i hard agree with the suspicions on andante. probably mafia.

[mc esther]

i dont get why she complains about rvs and having nothing to go on (which, imo, hasnt been true since the second page but whatever), then drops entirely empty posts like that. cmon lol, i dont necessarily expect you to have reads (although, eh, ive done a lot, i do think it's kinda weird not to have an opinion on my alignment at this point), but this doesnt read like frustrated town trying to find an angle on a tight game, this reads like scum very happy to cruise out on a low level of activity.

[mc esther]

i have complicated feelings about this, because im not sure i see a ton of benefit to scum lurking out this stage of the game, seems a great way to just get townblocked. if she is scum, her buddy's probably at least somewhat townread — if i had to pick a name, i'd go with t3 on poe, but idk how useful that actually is.

[Galron]

I think the consensus is Enchant is town in addition to Looker. So three more.

[Galron]

Or maybe he isn't. I keep looking at the VC wrong.

[Galron]

I think Enchant.

HEAL: enchant

[Galron]

I've already got enchant. I'm still looking at the VC wrong.

[Galron]

mbot, prohawk, andante and enchant need to be choosing people

[ProHawk]

I'm a little enebriated to make decisions tonight, let me decide tomorrow

[Looker]

VOTE: Andante
HURT: T3
HEAL: Umlaut

Are you just sheeping me on this vote or do you see something independently?

No. Sheeping is boring.

Spoiler:

looker with 4 people for their list, AND voting to yeet someone feels a tad suspicious to me, like, if we have lots of votes on people, then lock in lists, we'll basically be randomly yeeting. if esther was voting I'd hard sr that, but they're not voting, so it's ok. not too much to go off of right now though

Yes, I like this. More discussion of my RVS please. Hopefully that'll generate some actual content. I feel the more pages we get, the more we'll be able to sort.

I feel this was the most content-filled post of Andante's, and I addressed it (regardless of it being aimed at me). Can you guess which player on the player list I'll scrutinize next if they don't increase effort? (not sarcasm)

MBot is still scum. I have nothing else to contribute.

If MBot is scum, why are you voting mc esther. If you're voting mc esther, why have you coalition'd mc esther.

I'm a little enebriated to make decisions tonight, let me decide tomorrow

Prod dodge.

[Enchant]

HEAL: Looker

Collecting town not that hard, harder is staying with decision and persuading others.

[Galron]

If MBot is scum, why are you voting mc esther. If you're voting mc esther, why have you coalition'd mc esther.

[Andante]

I feel this was the most content-filled post of Andante's, and I addressed it (regardless of it being aimed at me). Can you guess which player on the player list I'll scrutinize next if they don't increase effort? (not sarcasm)

yeah, I know I have like no content, what's up?

[Andante]

mbot, prohawk, andante and enchant need to be choosing people

what's the rush?

[Andante]

Enchant ProHawk town

HEAL: enchant
HEAL: prohawk

[Andante]

alright, I think that's enough work for today, will find 3 more town tomorrow

[mc esther]

there seems a mild discrepancy in "what's the rush [to heal]?" followed quite immediately by two heals