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I said Cape was town after his reaction. I kind of vanity voted Malcolm because I’m going around poking my nullreads.
Do you think we’re in a good spot here as town? My tone may be different because I’m sensing more anxiety about losing. Scum are playing and hiding well and town did not exactly kill D1. The 2 early fights looked TvT which is never a good sign.-
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that's not really directly answering what i asked. should i take that as a "no, cape is. i don't have others right now"?In post 3249, VP Baltar wrote:
I still want to yeet the fuck out of cape, but that was going nowhere. People are willing to give him a pass today even though he is doing nothing and had a very questionable hammer yesterday, as I've explained.In post 3246, fireisredsir wrote:
is this your strongest scumread at the moment? what other scumreads do you have?In post 3241, VP Baltar wrote: but I think what I'm picking up on here is real.
If I was going to compromise on something, I might be willing to back a tenebros wagon, but I go back and forth there.-
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i know you said cape was town after the "TvT" cape had but i'm questioning the action of targeting them in the first place.In post 3252, Yeet wrote:I said Cape was town after his reaction. I kind of vanity voted Malcolm because I’m going around poking my nullreads.
Do you think we’re in a good spot here as town? My tone may be different because I’m sensing more anxiety about losing. Scum are playing and hiding well and town did not exactly kill D1. The 2 early fights looked TvT which is never a good sign.
i don't know what kind of spot we're in as town. i think i've got a few suspects and if we target one of them i think we'll be in good shape. TvT fights can be good because it helps eliminate suspects.
you seem to have scum reads here:
but then say things like this:In post 3052, Yeet wrote:Phone dropping my current reads before I sleep for reference:
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skitter Datisi Baltar Nero cape deasvail enchant - feel decent about these being town for now
Scorpious - ??
fire April tenebro eyes Malcolm frog std - would guess most scum are here
and it comes off as potentially fake and really cagey to me.In post 3218, Yeet wrote:I’m having trouble finding scumreads this game. That’s why I’m poking and prodding around.-
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I think we are in an okay spot.In post 3252, Yeet wrote:I said Cape was town after his reaction. I kind of vanity voted Malcolm because I’m going around poking my nullreads.
Do you think we’re in a good spot here as town? My tone may be different because I’m sensing more anxiety about losing. Scum are playing and hiding well and town did not exactly kill D1. The 2 early fights looked TvT which is never a good sign.
Negativity like this is not good however.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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VP's scumread is whatever wagon pops upOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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@fire - this is a very recent post from me that indicates where my head is at in terms of scum hunting. My frogster realization came after this obv.In post 2988, VP Baltar wrote:
Been thinking about this today. I sort of think there are two possible things maybe going on here. Either:In post 2983, MathBlade wrote:Pretty much all of HEM’s scumreads are wagons or sussed
Namely tene Scorpio and April. Skitter has her tell and stock equity goes way up if April is.
1) it is close to what HEM thought and a lot of the low content/impact people are on the scum team.
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2) the scum are more well hidden than town has really pushed. Something like a Datisi/skitter or Cape/fire core.
I can see a HEM kill in either scenario, so that isn't too helpful. The wagon also doesn't help clarify a ton for me either.
If you have a strong inclination to do the low volume pool today Math, I may just give you my vote to use. Tenebros explanations maybe seem the most contrived, but his frustration also read sort of real. Idk
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I think people had mentioned Frog like right b4 he voted thoughOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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What?In post 3261, Nero Cain wrote:I think people had mentioned Frog like right b4 he voted thoughYOUR AD HERE
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In post 3180, Yeet wrote:Yeah, I think Frogster is being slept on after the very early game which felt kinda townie.
so it seemed a little opportunistic. + I don't think he ever mentioned frog up until that point and if he was meta scum reading Frog why was he just now mentioning it?In post 3183, VP Baltar wrote:VOTE: frogster BTW.
Will do this iso today, but frog was like losing his mind going after people for all kinds of tinfoil shit our last game where he was town and this game he is barely a presence. IdgiOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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also wasn't Frog like lowkey suspected d1 for having some super funky logic? Doesn't that match up with your town meta on him?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Why did you omit the context that Yeet was replying to my original suspicion. That's scummy afIn post 3263, Nero Cain wrote:In post 3180, Yeet wrote:Yeah, I think Frogster is being slept on after the very early game which felt kinda townie.
so it seemed a little opportunistic. + I don't think he ever mentioned frog up until that point and if he was meta scum reading Frog why was he just now mentioning it?In post 3183, VP Baltar wrote:VOTE: frogster BTW.
Will do this iso today, but frog was like losing his mind going after people for all kinds of tinfoil shit our last game where he was town and this game he is barely a presence. IdgiYOUR AD HERE
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suspected by whom?In post 3264, Nero Cain wrote:also wasn't Frog like lowkey suspected d1 for having some super funky logic? Doesn't that match up with your town meta on him?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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Maybe I’m just being a dramatic pessimist. We’re probably not in terrible shape yet but it could be if we don’t play the next two days or so correctly. I don’t mean to make the atmosphere negative.In post 3256, MathBlade wrote:
I think we are in an okay spot.In post 3252, Yeet wrote:I said Cape was town after his reaction. I kind of vanity voted Malcolm because I’m going around poking my nullreads.
Do you think we’re in a good spot here as town? My tone may be different because I’m sensing more anxiety about losing. Scum are playing and hiding well and town did not exactly kill D1. The 2 early fights looked TvT which is never a good sign.
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Yes, Noraa is hyperposting as scum in this game to dominate the thread and create confusion. The speed of the game became much faster than the setup would indicate:In post 3229, VP Baltar wrote:
Do you have meta that backs this up?In post 3225, Frogsterking wrote:I've gotten this feedback many times before in games or social situations after the size of the group is increased. I'm experiencing heightened feelings of vulnerability in this game so far compared to other games because of the high speed and large player count. It's observant of you but NAI and possibly scum motivated to push.
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=84085&start=1625
The game is chaotic to the extent there is a point in the game when the mod is unable to determine whether or not there has been a hammer. You can get some sense of the chaos by reading the mod iso:
viewtopic.php?p=12086810&user_select%5B ... #p12086810
Scum were planning to case me because of my decreased presence in the thread making me seem like a good mislim target. Scum tunnel me though as the last town power role and they convince themselves my behavior change is because of my role:
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Scum are so convinced my decreased presence is due to my role they make a play that puts them in autolose if they're unable to kill the final TPR. Town then wins the game because I'm killed and our last power role is able to survive the night.
Compared to the above example, there is more structure in this game because Mizzy and theworst are able to stay on top of the votes, but there is far more chaos underlying that structure here than what I experienced in the above example, so I imagine the change may be more noticeable and seem even more pushable than it did before.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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I'll give these a read today. thanks.In post 3272, Frogsterking wrote:Compared to the above example, there is more structure in this game because Mizzy and theworst are able to stay on top of the votes, but there is far more chaos underlying that structure here than what I experienced in the above example, so I imagine the change may be more noticeable and seem even more pushable than it did before.YOUR AD HERE
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what does a 6.5/10 mean?In post 2859, Datisi wrote:so, like, in total? 6.5/10, my gamestate reads aren't always great, but i would not mind a wagon here-
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It's because I was scummy before for my hammer on GeneralWu?In post 3255, Save The Dragons wrote:i know you said cape was town after the "TvT" cape hadbut i'm questioning the action of targeting them in the first place.
i don't know what kind of spot we're in as town. i think i've got a few suspects and if we target one of them i think we'll be in good shape. TvT fights can be good because it helps eliminate suspects.
you seem to have scum reads here:
Are like, you gonna read into things or ask pointless questions?
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