Open 847 - Trust Fall [Game Over]

[chavela]

i think that's why i'm leaving the game too. to put my solve to the test, and if it really was a shitty solve, then at least you cool kids can clean up nicely.

wait can you answer question on

enchant’s towniness compared to the worst please? or again if you already did i may have missed it sorry

[chavela]

because there are a lot of potential enchant partners not one if enchant flips mafia

[chavela]

i would put that forth before i am going to be absent again

[chavela]

i thought kuriyama made good observations about norwee's slot. i think enchant is a good exit for me here, regardless if enchant is scum or not. i think there's a net positive chance that enchant is town here.

wait could you reiterate those observations for me

sorry to be a pain

[chavela]

shiki if you are really worried about Enchant!scum you should pick 2 people to leave because we are running out of time

also 29 hours so rush isn’t extreme or anything think we’re still a long ways off of when humaneatingmonkey said would trust enchant

[chavela]

i thought kuriyama made good observations about norwee's slot. i think enchant is a good exit for me here, regardless if enchant is scum or not. i think there's a net positive chance that enchant is town here.

wait could you reiterate those observations for me

sorry to be a pain

norwee felt fake to me too. i also thought that he was going for the exit when he asked enchant if she was willing to accept him. he was signaling that. even though he said he wanted to stay. i dont think it was a reaction test.

hm, current thoughts on kuriyama?

[chavela]

hm, current thoughts on kuriyama?

i thought they were pretty townie

bullying someone to replacement isn't top-tier trust fall scum play

real hard for me to not feel like their entrance didn’t have a predecided outcome

which like sure they said they may be confbiasing,

but it’s also somewhat apparent in what they chose not to comment on

like for the number of posts made it was very very narrow yes? like their steps outside of ‘pav/nor are scums’ were mostly to say all other reads were bad not really things noteworthy about other slots

[chavela]

are you suggesting norwee was replacing out anyway and that was theater

no? nothing about norwegianboyee’s reaction,

it just didn’t feel like in the catchup posts that the end result wasn’t already known to kuriyama

[chavela]

are you suggesting norwee was replacing out anyway and that was theater

no? nothing about norwegianboyee’s reaction,

it just didn’t feel like in the catchup posts that the end result wasn’t already known to kuriyama

like it felt like kuriyama was getting to where they were going

whereas you’d expect town to not know where that was

like if it’s a game where the map is all clouded over and is revealed as you explore you’d expect there to be a lot of steps off the direct route

but here it felt more like kuriyama might have known the path to me

[chavela]

…

i, don’t really get it

[chavela]

like saying ‘oh that’d be bad scumplay’ (even though one of those reads pivoted on norwegianboyee replacement already)

doesn’t make the action towny in anyway?

[chavela]

I kinda don't understand people who think i am mafia, like if you do think so, then go trust someone who you think is town ASAP, not when there's 2-4 hours remaining, so person have atleast time to consider your offer.

Because HEM directly stated, otherwise he will trust me. Do you want your scumread to leave game duh?

monkey said would trust like 17.5 hours from now

i said if going to trust someone else i’d do it before going to be absent again

like trying to decide if i should currently

[chavela]

if we need to cut the hem/enchant convo in half i'll trust enchant. i just trust myself lategame more than i trust myself earlygame. but if i'm in a sticky slot then etc.

? trusting the side that offered the trust adds two variables instead of one? like humaneatingmonkey can already leave

like what does also giving enchant that option do for town you

[chavela]

increases enchant's town equity a lot, which makes this convo more interesting

and this seems worth the potential risk?

[chavela]

it seems like it just gives another out to possible mafia and gives an out to yourself and you don’t seem to be scumreading monkey? so it seems kinda ?!?

[chavela]

if you don't think it's worth the risk: what are you doing to avoid an enchant flip?

? enchant flips at status quo? and i have said multiple times i might trust before i am going to be absent again if it seems correct to me

so you offering enchant just adds variables

[chavela]

like if you don’t think monkey is mafia what does you trusting enchant possibly do for town you i still don’t understand

[chavela]

weigh in on conversations being had about other players alignments then? or start those conversations?

[chavela]

like literally was just talking with players about kuriyama’s alignment

explain why you disagree with my thoughts on their entrance if you’d like to talk about something else

[chavela]

this one too

hm, current thoughts on kuriyama?

i thought they were pretty townie

bullying someone to replacement isn't top-tier trust fall scum play

real hard for me to not feel like their entrance didn’t have a predecided outcome

which like sure they said they may be confbiasing,

but it’s also somewhat apparent in what they chose not to comment on

like for the number of posts made it was very very narrow yes? like their steps outside of ‘pav/nor are scums’ were mostly to say all other reads were bad not really things noteworthy about other slots

[chavela]

have any of kuriyama’s reads changed beyond you now being town because norwegianboyee replacement though?

[chavela]

and does that actually make any difference in terms of game actions?

[chavela]

define game actions?

like in terms of what would happen if you put their reads into actions

there isn’t much difference between you being scum or not until later

only potential benefit for scum kuriyama

as i assume norwee replace didn’t vault you to the top of the town list

[chavela]

and otherwise i haven’t felt this movement you talked about

like there’s push for enchant pairing from kuriyama and ydrasse interaction

but it just feels like, even before read game like, this is how it is going to be

[chavela]

hm

[chavela]

sorry to continue being a pain but could you answer this one too please,

as like the enchant thing has had words put to it but still confused about this

the worst, what was that about wanting to trust kuriyama?

[chavela]

what do you think no one having made a trust offer since humaneatingmonkey offered me means?

[chavela]

humaneatingmonkey could you do the posterity thoughts thing pretty please

[chavela]

humaneatingmonkey could you do the posterity thoughts thing pretty please

in general i mean no rush of course we’re on your time et cetera

[chavela]

thankyou

[chavela]

still town

[chavela]

okay enough with you sending it

[chavela]

kinda feels like

calling bluff on s/s

[chavela]

kinda feels like

calling bluff on s/s

trust bugspray i dare you

already made my decision on you sending it

like bugspray your second most likely partner yeah?

and if you’re both town or enchant mafia i think definitely solvable

and you mafia enchant town bugspray town still figurable

so

[chavela]

u town?

[chavela]

maybe actually probably should post after trust sorry

[chavela]

maybe actually probably should post after trust sorry

*shouldn’t

[chavela]

sorry for absence - around in ~3 hours

[chavela]

trust kuriyama

because part of wave towards town!enchant town!humaneatingmonkey?

[chavela]

Yeah this flip probably just makes The Worst scum

but why tho

doesn't it make the worst townier? or am i misunderstanding something?

like norwegianboyee was strong voice of enchant town yeah?

[chavela]

i really don't understand why hem would say me+shiki in finals when he was so certain that me+enchant are scum partners

monkey was worried about me/enchant if enchant was mafia

which is more or less irrelevant now i think like maybe not like confirmed but close enough yeah

[chavela]

Why the worst is an evil scummy evil scum scummy scum scum mafia duck

oh there is big explanation post ignore my earlier questioning

i assume this comes down to the worst potentially trying to suggest other pairings at crunch time, which yeah puts the worst below the others pushing similar narrative probably,

but anyway reading now!

[chavela]

trust: ydrasse

sorry if this one is epic dumb

hmhmhm

could you walk me through the

'i am worried mafia!ydrasse is turning it on for day two'

to

trusting ydrasse thought process please?

[chavela]

Oh boy... if the worst really is scum as I suspect,

i kinda worry

that this line of mafia!the worst is built off of my expressed worries of the worst doing this at the time

but also it's not really like those worries have been satisfied by humaneatingmonkey/enchant flipping town

and i am glad that the trusts made in my absence went the directions they did

even if i probably would have still preferred more patience

[chavela]

im kind of thinking about trusting duck to end the game because if duck/me flip t/t then ydra should be clear since she couldve accepted duck and ydra/shiki would end the game

let's see

so you're pretty likely to be town

and ydrasse very likely to be town or! partnered with the worst

so if the worst town then ydrasse town

so logic makes sense

but!

guess i would maybe like to be more confident in town!the worst than i am right now

as mafia!the worst does not leave us in a very good position

as ydrasse becomes very much not confirmed and we would no longer be able to miss and still need to find four towns with just one known

[chavela]

guess i would maybe like to be more confident in town!the worst than i am right now

wish fuzzy messy useless moon brain would maybe be less fuzzy so i could just squint really hard at specifically this

because from there it's just press buttons be glad everyone is wiser than me

but alas

like my attempts to be useful while being terrible going pretty okay so far (other than approach sometimes sorry again andante) but yeah

[chavela]

worst and i can’t be partners because of the trust

why not?

[chavela]

worst and i can’t be partners because of the trust

why not?

like it just means you can't accept that trust

and you're both already locked into trusts offered

like it seems pretty likely you are town to me

like much more so than the other

which doesn't really have any sway on the worst alignment

but not certain

can definitely get over 90% that it is one of those two options

as it seems unlikely to me you would not jettison

but maybe only to 85% on the town option alone

[chavela]

But there is a piece of information that's missing here and probably confusing you. It's the fact that chavela has laid out the exact same point earlier (in a strategic way, just like yours) and I didn't come at them for it, but came for you instead.

Here's why: I didn't read the thread carefully enough.

This is actually a really bad mistake on my part, given the fact that I was speculating on whether to offer to trust chavela in Day 1. Now I know that I won't.

wait what

i guess i don't really understand how you could weigh this against the things you could be townreading me for

and come to the conclusion that i should not leave the game at some point

[chavela]

worst and i can’t be partners because of the trust

why not?

like it just means you can't accept that trust

and you're both already locked into trusts offered

like it seems pretty likely you are town to me

like much more so than the other

which doesn't really have any sway on the worst alignment

but not certain

can definitely get over 90% that it is one of those two options

as it seems unlikely to me you would not jettison

but maybe only to 85% on the town option alone

which maybe weighs against kuriyama offering a trust to the worst and towards kuriyama accepting your trust

hmhmhm

[chavela]

As for the rest: I've laid all my cards on the table with my strategy in this game. I feel that I am one individual who happens to share a goal with 7 others - and that is to find someone who is 100% town and to exit the game with them. If you think of the game this way, you start to look for a potential partner to exit with. I absolutely do feel that matches should be consulted, because any potential error of judgement can be fatal so we all have to think thrice before offering or taking a trust. I don't have a better idea to approach this game so I'm probably going to continue this strategy for the remainder of my presence in it. Unless I get a better idea, but I probably won't.

i guess maybe part of why this worries me

is that i presented this as my strategy when i was mafia in trust fall once

in order to make the game as narrow as i could for myself

[chavela]

maybe I'll throw it at one of those in my not-so-sure list

uh, why though

like why trust a not-so-sure when there are existing trust offers between those on your pretty sure list

[chavela]

% chance on meuh/the worst distancing?

[chavela]

% chance on meuh/the worst distancing?

anyone can answer this

though i guess maybe the worst and meuh weighing in wouldn't be all that helpful

[chavela]

% chance on meuh/the worst distancing?

"bussing" super free in this setup

and it's not too difficult for me to see the potential a to b to c here for both of them from a mafia perspective

[chavela]

% chance on meuh/the worst distancing?

meuh flipping from duckie!scum to i want to trust duckie doesn't feel like s/s theatre

hmhmhm

do you think

the worst expressing worry about ydrasse and then offering her a trust very shortly thereafter is comparable?

[chavela]

the worst expressing worry about ydrasse and then offering her a trust very shortly thereafter is comparable?

I don't think he expressed worry about Ydra the way Meuh "cased" duckie.

Just skimming iso it seems like more of a poe thing than actual focused suspicion?

hm

@meuh what did you like about the worst’s response to your case though?

something feels amiss here

i guess i should wait for the worst to walk me through thought process regarding ydrasse before saying more on that

[chavela]

okie dokie

but how did any of this lead you to this:

I think like, holistically the greatest vector to loss atp would be scum in me/meuh, which is a v good vibe imo

let's leave the game together rn, then!

oh boy

phew

kind of a weird reaction if you think duckie!scum

trust proposals are scary regardless
and idk anymore i've kinda liked duckie's response to my post

like it feels like you've just given reasons you disliked the worst's response???

[chavela]

Kuri/Ydra

ydrasse would have immediately ejected with the worst if this were the case, yeah?

because it gets her out of the game and makes it look like she was trying to quick trust with kuriyama

like there are situations that scum might stay in the game, especially since mafia can react by leaving

but there is opportunity cost/players can't always be present et cetera

and it seems very unlikely ydrasse would stay if paired with kuriyama

[chavela]

i had the same paranoid moment earlier today then talked myself out of it for the same reason.

like thinking about it there are possible kuriyama partners

but thinking about those at length right now feels like one of those enticing distractions i sometimes get trapped by

[chavela]

also ydrasse would have had to be the one to leave anyway if ydrasse/kuriyama

because while it would be possible that mafia!kuriyama would be framing ydrasse by not accepting and then leaving later with someone else, it likely would not be distinguishable enough from not framing

so optics wise ydrasse would want to leave

so very little to gain by staying

[chavela]

so optics wise ydrasse would want to leave

like out of the two of them after the trust offer

[chavela]

god it's difficult to explain. the more i read ydrasse's posts the more i felt like, incorrect. i don't really think their d2 has been scummy, i don't think kuriyama is the correct choice for a d2 pivot-pocket if ydrasse+andante lurked d1 away as scum. being totally honest with myself a lot of the reason i kept getting nervous with ydrasse is because i really disliked andante. i felt Incredibly Right for just long enough to type it out and hit submit.

i guess it is like

the worry about day two activity makes sense

and can be extended to like, potential game ending danger from town trusts there

but i guess it is like, you're the one who acted on that though

and you were the one acting on the potential town pairing yesterday as well, though not going so far as to offer a trust yesterday

and if kuriyama is town and the poe they laid out is correct, i guess i would expect the mafias to be trying to do, something more?

unless that's what meuh is doing i guess?

[chavela]

well shiki if the team is ydra/kuri, then ydra is the only one of us that can leave as duckie is trusted to her, I can't exactly press leave on my own partner

sorry that's not what i meant communication hard

if staying in the game, the purpose would be to leave in a better situation then the one already present,

so that situation would likely involve finding a better pairing

but that better pairing would have to be a better pairing for ydrasse?

as ydrasse would be immediately suspicious if you found the better pairing and flipped mafia

so the upside of ydrasse staying is,

???

ya know

[chavela]

if me/ydra are town, which I have every reason to believe she is as she has not left with duckie,

the mafia are looking at a game state with shiki(utr) and 3 townies in 5.

if mafia try to leave by trusting a townie, that townie gets elevated and can leave with shiki instead - ending the game.

if mafia try to convince shiki to leave with other mafia by trusting m->m, it outs the partner.

it is kind of like zugzwang in chess? they really have to get town to make a mistake if my gamestate read is correct.

so we should try to find someone we trust more than the worst if possible

and have the worst offer a trust there

and have that person not accept it if town

then that person/me/you/ydrasse ?

does this make sense?

[chavela]

if me/ydra are town, which I have every reason to believe she is as she has not left with duckie,

the mafia are looking at a game state with shiki(utr) and 3 townies in 5.

if mafia try to leave by trusting a townie, that townie gets elevated and can leave with shiki instead - ending the game.

if mafia try to convince shiki to leave with other mafia by trusting m->m, it outs the partner.

it is kind of like zugzwang in chess? they really have to get town to make a mistake if my gamestate read is correct.

so we should try to find someone we trust more than the worst if possible

and have the worst offer a trust there

and have that person not accept it if town

then that person/me/you/ydrasse ?

does this make sense?

hmm not really sure if it does

like mafia would just not accept

nevermind

[chavela]

which returns us to ydrasse town or partnered with the worst

so i guess it still makes more sense to me for any resolution to involve both or solely ydrasse

still kinda worried about you trusting the worst

like is ydrasse accepting the worst not preferable from your perspective?

or would you be too worried about my read of you not being absolutely certain?

[chavela]

well I am more certain of my alignment than duckie's alignment so me leaving with ydra is strictly better than duckie leaving with her

if you would like me to stay I am happy to stay with you

nono sorry

i mean

why do you think you offering the worst

is preferable to ydrasse accepting the worst?

is what i am asking?

[chavela]

given my reads on hem and enchant, offering a trust yesterday would have been quite silly.

i mean, thus my reaction to the hypotheticals

and even though you didn't offer one, i feel like, as town,

you can see why it felt like you were doing

the

but maybe

thing that scums do sometimes

[chavela]

and if mafia, well yeah

[chavela]

what happens if i go rogue accept the duck is town kuri and chav pair up and game ends

anyone like this concept

am i allowed to give the unfair/results oriented answer of

i like it if the worst is town

[chavela]

it's like, things feel kinda right

but also feel too easy

and also there have been

things

and my ability to tell if the

things

mean anything at all is currently nonexistent

like kuriyama said would put the puzzle together with me if necessary and it currently feels like i am over here combining all of the puzzles and removing the pictures with acetone

[chavela]

but also feel too easy

like maybe in a sinister way

[chavela]

hmhmhm

won't really be around until later

but is kuriyama/meuh pairing now preferable to the previously talked about the worst pairings?

like

if kuriyama/meuh both town
then ydrasse/me
if ydrasse town then yay we win
if ydrasse mafia then the worst mafia
yay we win

if one of kuriyama/meuh is mafia
then me ydrasse town
would need to find two other towns without missing
but have a lot of information to help with that

[chavela]

but have a lot of information to help with that

right like in case of meuh mafia we have today's approach to the worst and the pairings offered towards and such

maybe more difficult in case of kuriyama but would have to be agenda to their play here today as could have left so

anyway will return when able

[chavela]

mm how about me/ydra leave

if T/T

then you/meuh leave

if meuh is mafia, implies scum in pavo/bugs

Duckie/Greeting leave?

mmm 0% partner between ydrasse/meuh

can’t say same about you/meuh

and kinda confused why you think bugspray offer would be +partner with meuh

[chavela]

there’s something weird with the two offers to meuh that does feel like it could be partnered but it’s hard to explain why

like the sort of thing oh bug wouldn’t do that with their partner on a whim sort of deal

same thing with pav

+partner for pav yea i agree

but i think maybe +mafia for bugspray and maybe +partner with pav but i guess i don’t really see the +partner with meuh

but also haven’t been able to spend much time with it

[chavela]

if i am partnered with meuh i can just accept ydra and not care about what you want? Just making sure you are ok with Meuh leaving with you and the next steps to take.


Meuh being mafia would imply scum in her askers since she is not leaving with either of them? more likely imo she is just town atp.

i am aware that you are able to leave;

guess i don't really understand why you are making sure i am ok with meuh leaving with me when you seem to be not ok with meuh leaving with you?

as ydrasse staying seems more likely to result in game solved to me

but you can make the decision unilaterally as you've said, so

and but so also it is like, maybe probably same outcome, so

[chavela]

and if we are planning to send it with pairings that do not include the worst

we probably should not wait for the worst to return to thread with pending trust offer

though it still gives us great benefit if the worst is town, if we are leaning against this or find it less likely than current standings, then should press buttons

and if town/town pretty easy to work from there

and if not then everyone can pretty please not do anything until very sure

[chavela]

I like ydra>?

the result is more or less the same

and but so also it is like, maybe probably same outcome, so

but sure, i also like ydrasse +)

[chavela]

so do you want me to accept b4 duckie gets back or wait for our favorite duck?

uh, are you currently more confident that meuh is town than the worst?

which probably yeah if you're town

which means yeah probably send it

[chavela]

I’m fine with both Kuri/Ydra or me/Ydra!

wait

why not kuriyama/you though?

[chavela]

0_0

i worried

[chavela]

but yeah okay enough with kuriyama accepting ydrasse tout de suite

[chavela]

Why is everyone suddenly scumreading

the worst

and panicking over my trust offer? They didn't even say they are townreading me.

the worst

is literally my biggest townlean in this game, as was

Norwee

whom ducky replaced. I have indicated willingness to trust them long before I made the actual offer.

it doesn't really make any sense that the worst would be your biggest townread right now

like how would the worst be more likely to be town than me or ydrasse or even meuh,

and because if the worst leaves with you and is mafia it causes the same issue i outlined earlier with regards to ydrasse

like ydrasse/kuriyama isn't necessarily my preferred pairing right now

but it is the one that is there and i like it better than no action being taken i think

[chavela]

if kuriyama mafia it's not like they can janitor their flip and there are lines there

if ydrasse mafia the worst likely mafia

and if town/town then probably meuh/me

which either wins game or pav likely partner

or mafias have played extremely well

which is always possible and i am willing to consider all options

like everyone knows i am pretty keen to stare at game for entire timer

[chavela]

kuri’s absence rn feeling bad

agreed

but also i often have to disappear at inopportune times

[chavela]

@ydrasse uh, i probably would not, but if you really believe you have the button

[chavela]

but i am also a scaredy cat et cetera et cetera

[chavela]

though it feels very difficult to solve game if the worst mafia from that situation thus i probably would not though i get the impulse

[chavela]

it doesn't really make any sense that the worst would be your biggest townread right now

like how would the worst be more likely to be town than me or ydrasse or even meuh,

and because if the worst leaves with you and is mafia it causes the same issue i outlined earlier with regards to ydrasse

like ydrasse/kuriyama isn't necessarily my preferred pairing right now

but it is the one that is there and i like it better than no action being taken i think

I had a million more doubts about both

Enchant

and

humaneatingmonkey

than I have about ducky's content. And both of these slots turned out to be town.

Norwee

's content felt genuine.

the worst

's content feels genuine. What's so scummy about them?

like the suggesting other pairings at crunch time and the trust of ydrasse here

would both be expected from mafia

like can be explained as town but would be expected from mafia the worst

whereas mechanically there are more likely towns

so you ignoring that and deciding the worst is the towniest is confusing

[chavela]

like even if you don't like my content et cetera, what's possibly scummy about it?

how are you weighing the worst's genuineness over that

do you think there are likely worlds right now where ydrasse is mafia with anyone other than the worst?

and so forth

[chavela]

i won’t leave but i got close. twitchy

what does it look like

if we leave together

or if you/meuh leave

[chavela]

maybe kuri can have enough faith to leave with meuh

this remains my preferred option

but kuriyama also has the button and was opposed

[chavela]

i think kuri suggested something like that even so maybe it really is like pav/bug

does greeting

seem likely town to you though?

[chavela]

chav/meuh is probably the ideal pair for today

can you muse a bit about

what if meuh mafia for me please

as you've already done the musing about me

and

i town

[chavela]

also, both the worst and greeting talked a bit about like

what if i was partnered with pav

and if i was partnered with pav i would have at some point made an effort to get pav out of the game?

if you think i stayed in the game in order to get pav out?

but none of this really actually important

i think mostly probably the worst just doing the what if thing i constantly do even when 95+% on someone

[chavela]

i think there's almost a 0% chance scum!meuh doesn't take one of the trusts offered d2

yeah unless there was like an explicit understanding not to accept

but then who would partner even be

[chavela]

her being anxious

it me

[chavela]

ugh this is anxiety inducing especially after we got 2 right

chav do you just wanna do it now instead of worrying about it forever? i can't see any other option being better here

you can offer if you'd like and not worry about

like it's between that and you accepting the worst to me right now i think

and you offering leaves both on the table

but i also want to look over things again to feel more sure

[chavela]

i think you had a LOT of momentum/control on d1, and i think come d2 that control was spread more evenly amongst a handful of players

i mean,

mostly letting the smarter people do the thing and trying not to ruin the game

[chavela]

ugh this is anxiety inducing especially after we got 2 right

chav do you just wanna do it now instead of worrying about it forever? i can't see any other option being better here

you can offer if you'd like and not worry about

like it's between that and you accepting the worst to me right now i think

and you offering leaves both on the table

but i also want to look over things again to feel more sure

I'll just do nothing for the moment, still leaves both on the table

true enough

guess i would like to have some semblance of a plan in place just in case

but it's not as though i can reasonably ask you to help with a plan in case of you being mafia lol

[chavela]

ugh this is anxiety inducing especially after we got 2 right

chav do you just wanna do it now instead of worrying about it forever? i can't see any other option being better here

you can offer if you'd like and not worry about

like it's between that and you accepting the worst to me right now i think

and you offering leaves both on the table

but i also want to look over things again to feel more sure

I'll just do nothing for the moment, still leaves both on the table

true enough

guess i would like to have some semblance of a plan in place just in case

but it's not as though i can reasonably ask you to help with a plan in case of you being mafia lol

oh you mean just like an easy trigger to pull just in case something happens? that's fair, i could offer to you for that purpose if you want
i don't think it matters either way

nono sorry

i mean like who seems most likely mafia in case you are mafia,

which is very difficult as that is part of why you are likely to be town

though you even thinking of this is probably plus town

it's just like

if bugspray mafia, then bugspray has been trying to be divined as town by hard townsiding? right
and greeting mafia at this point accepting status quo is unable to win unless you or the worst mafia i guess? but it would probably have to be you because the worst's approach here
and the worst approach means would have to be partnered with you anyway if mafia, right?

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and the worst approach means would have to be partnered with you anyway if mafia, right?

like mafia!the worst cannot push our pairing

unless you are partnered, thus !

maybe better if you two pair

even though it feels weird saying so with knowledge of my alignment et cetera

[chavela]

but i am not sure if this even makes sense,

please if it doesn't to anyone say so

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or maybe it means i should pair with the worst

hm

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dead thread and prism probably going

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right now can feel it from the beyond

[chavela]

dead thread and prism probably going

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right now can feel it from the beyond

well i guess it isn't a dead thread

trusted townies thread and prism*

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trust meuh

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but i mean i'd just need to dodge one scum in that scenario right? i can probably do it

ye old classic 67%er

much better than final three

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oh okay!

it's like, you'd just press eject at any time i trusted someone else as you already have two outstanding offers

so would have to spend my time trying to find a moment when trusting that person would be immediately accepted

all in service of what is a great unlikelihood anyway

and i am still not really finding any real potential pairings for you

and! the worst says will solve this if you're mafia

which i guess i should worry about what if you're partnered though

but wouldn't the worst have instantly accepted greeting in that case

as it makes ydrasse unconfirmed and! seems like it'd be undercutting the offers posed to you

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i town so if u town we won

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in that case we are champions and heroes

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