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[Toogeloo]

Hey. Anything I should know?

[Toogeloo]

I haven't read anything.

[Toogeloo]

UNVOTE:

All caught up.

[Toogeloo]

UNVOTE:

All caught up.

Then do sumthing with your vote pal.

Maybe later.

You didn't have any thoughts to share from the last several pages?

Sure. RCE is my strongest townread. Tracer Pook is probably town too.

[Toogeloo]

Lol

[Toogeloo]

After I finish writing up Tooges entrance scene though

It better be DEFCON worthy.

[Toogeloo]

give me a readlist tooges and i'll make it good

I'm waiting for the shit slinging phase to be over. Right now I have the two reads.

I did just realize this morning that this is only 9 players though, lol. For some reason my mind kept telling me it was 13.

[Toogeloo]

Pooky, is Tracer a gimmick account? Like something you do on Tracer that you don't do on Pooky (or vice versa)?

[Toogeloo]

I like Norwee's analysis so far. I'd be interested in hearing Ircher and the worst (the two votes on Norwee) explain if they still scum read there.

I looked at the worst's iso and I'm currently leaning their Norwee vote was a sheep at a time that Norwee might have been susceptible to a wagon, and I like their vote the least.

[Toogeloo]

I should probably reevaluate Tracer. I think Norwee and RCE are town though.

Not sure what to make of Wallflower, Ircher, or MegA yet. I'm never confident on my MegA reads as is. Tracer can stay a slight town lean for now. SS is forgettable.

VOTE: the worst

[Toogeloo]

it was a sheep. any thoughts on the rest of my content / any reason you this me sheeping there is scum indicative?

Maaaaybe?

interested in your rce read too if youd be ok expanding

I recall reading something back on like page 4 or 5. I wasn't the only person to pick up on it too.

[Toogeloo]

Another day

Another Readlist:



Reminder to Self: Still have to write Toogeloo Entrance Scene.

Have you been taking lessons from Not_Mafia on how to make a reads lists .

[Toogeloo]

If anyone is wondering how I arrived at Ircher/Toogeloo solve.

I sorted the playerlist by post count and removed Mr. I'm too Good to Post in this Game.

Well, if you add my posts and my predecessor's posts together, my slot is right in the middle

[Toogeloo]

Tracer, are you arguing with Norwee about scum Ircher? Norwee thinks Ircher is scum too. I can't really tell if you are just arguing for the sake of arguing though.

[Toogeloo]

on top of the fact the wagon on ircher was already stupid, the game has now stagnated with him as lead wagon :p who do people think ircher is aligned with? what does literally anyone think scum are doing?

This kind of argument has never been compelling to me. I feel like it overstates the extent that scum will go to in order to save one of their own. If Ircher's partner thinks that he is deserving of the pressure he's getting, they can't really do anything about it without potentially exposing themself.

I haven't played in a 2 Mafia setup in a long while, but what would the ideal strategy even be? Bus your partner and try to solo the rest of the game, or hard defend and hope that you just come off looking like a bad town later?

[Toogeloo]

I'm not as angsty as Tracer with activity. I like slow games. And, personally, I think a good deal of associative a have already been established. You don't need 70 page day 1's to get a good start in a game.

[Toogeloo]

Consider my vote on Ircher if I had to pick between the two leading wagons.

[Toogeloo]

E-2 is generally claim territory, but I haven't played a game this small in a while, so I'm not sure if E-1 is proper or not.

[Toogeloo]

Ircher should at least assume they are at E-1 at least with my intent.

[Toogeloo]

Reconsidering my worst read. This play is suicide as scum, regardless of Ircher's alignment.

[Toogeloo]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Ircher

[Toogeloo]

UNVOTE:

I need a vote count. I'm not sure if I'm the leading wagon now or not, or who I should be scrambling my vote to if I am. It'll be on whoever is the closest counter to me.

[Toogeloo]

Either way, I'm just a VT.

[Toogeloo]

VOTE: Tracer

Ircher and worst are town. This works for me since Tracer is their preferred target and is also counter to me.

[Toogeloo]

I'll also vote for SS if it's necessary for end of day btw

[Toogeloo]

Probably the worst claiming informed.


Duh...

[Toogeloo]

feels like a scumclaim vote from Tooges lol

/shrug

I actually don't mind being elimed. The worst is right (assuming he true claimed) that this game is totally winnable in all likelihood since two of the most elimable slots from Day 1 just became conftown.

[Toogeloo]

Don't people want to make their MARK on the game?

Have we ever played together? I am always low effort unless I'm like really invested in a game, which isn't often.

Skating through Day 1 without doing much is my MO. And I always roll town.

Some of us just don't play Mafia that seriously. I make the commitment to log on at least once a day, read the thread, make a few replies that stuck out to me (bonus points for snark and/or humor), and then check out. I don't refresh the game to wait for replies. I just move on.

I have played this way for years. I don't need to make a mark on the game, and have never felt the need to do so.

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Tracer, you still owe me an opening scene.

In regards to your comments, I get the impression I would have been damned if I did, damned if I didn't in regards to you. If I voted anyone other than you, I'm sure'd say I was bussing. But I vote for you, so it's a scum claim.

I voted for you because what amounts to two likely confirmed townies are also voting for you. Voting for SS is something I stated I would do as well, if necessary, but by your own comments, SS hasn't done anything, ergo they give the least information if flipped. So that is even more reason to vote you over them.

This doesn't feel like you from that monochromatic game where I knew you were scum, but that's also why I asked if you play differently as Tracer and Pooky.

[Toogeloo]

I told the mod during the night, but I'll make it known in thread too.

I am V/LA through Sunday.

In the immortal words of my friend, Pooky...

I choose not me

VOTE: Tracer

[Toogeloo]

Here is my elimination preference going forward.

Tracer = SS > Norwee > Wallflower > RCE

I hope everyone had a good Ramadan / Passover / Easter / Totally Normal Weekend.

I may have eaten one too many Robin Eggs...

[Toogeloo]

going forward

This makes it sound like you don't expect your elimination preference to change?

I really hope not. The MegA lim was major red flags, and if I'm eliminated today, I thinks it very important that we get a read list out of SS prior to that because as of right now SS being in a LimLo situation is sketch.

[Toogeloo]

I can self meta too.

My last scum game was the Jungle of Bullshit game. I didn't even have to try, but I did. Like, I went full try hard. Before that, I was in the Color Red for half a day in the pairs game. I went full try hard there too.

The reason I hate playing Mafia is because I legit lose sleep over whether or not people can see through my bullshit. Like, I had to replace our of a Mafia game at one point because I lost sleep while I was sick, and it literally affected my health.

My scum tell is invisible to everyone, but it's simple. If I'm losing sleep over a game, I'm scum.

[Toogeloo]

Toogeloo hasn't really had any takes.

He doesn't feel like he actually scumreads me or is committed to this game.

For example the last time he scumread me was in this completed game: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=88618

You mean the game I lolcatted a fake guilty only cuz I knew you were scum, and then you got me eliminated for it?

Calling you a naughty bear doesn't really come off as having much of a take either considering I you pushed me into being eliminated without me doing much.

I mean it’s been E-1 for forever.

Good point actually VOTE: toog

So do you think it's me + Wallflower?

[Toogeloo]

If I get limmed here, I think town loses in LimLo.

[Toogeloo]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Something Smart

If we aren't picking between Ircher's dichotomy, this is where I'm at.

If people want me eliminated though, they need to shit or get off the pot. This day is garbage enough as it is.

[Toogeloo]

I think I probably just need a break from Mafia for a while after this game. I haven't felt "into" a game since FFXIV, even Control was a game I thought I'd be hyped for but ended up just going through the motions. I just like to play because it takes my mind off the stresses in real life with my work schedule and what not.

[Toogeloo]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Something Smart

Present your case please.

I didn't like the MegA wagon, and I don't think SS should be anywhere near LimLo given the relative unknown nature of the slot. It's cagey. I doubt it even gets off the ground, but if we are just circle jerking anyways, so...

[Toogeloo]

I honestly feel like if the game were bigger, Pooky would be trying to bury me if he were scum. The issue is the game size, and his constant vote count kind of prevents him from just being brazen about it since after my flip, he would still likely get his comeuppance as scum. So how does he play in order to get time to either get his partner further or himself further as a result? My confidence in scum Tracer is probably 65-ish% and it's entirely based on the flash wagon at end of day yesterday and the reads of the IC township. MegA's wagon only served to save Tracer because he was E-1 at the time. I don't think SS or I were even E-2.

I don't even get this game currently because today both Tracer and I were at E-1 for hours with everyone posting.

[Toogeloo]

Yeah, I'm ready for this day to be over.

[Toogeloo]

I don't feel like dwelling on this game for a week, I know where I want my vote. There's only two things that probably need to happen before I place it though.

Anyone who hasn't claimed, probably should. I'd be immensely impressed at any claim that might have information that sways people, but it should probably still be done as a formality.

SS needs to have a firm stance on every player remaining. I won't accept less than a list with everyone's names and town or scum read by it.

[Toogeloo]

SS needs to have a firm stance on every player remaining. I won't accept less than a list with everyone's names and town or scum read by it.

You want me to deliberately remove all the useful information from my reads before sharing them?

You know what I mean >.>.

The fact that you are still what amounts to trolling the game thread isn't changing my mind either.

Is anyone else claiming today, or do we not give a shit anymore? I am ready to vote if we are just fucking around.

[Toogeloo]

Toog what are your thoughts on the game?

If you are asking if I buy the claim. I don't. Claiming Vengeful in LimLo feels almost like someone claiming Ascetic on Day 1... Convenient.

[Toogeloo]

The notes don't do my thoughts much justice, and they're probably nigh unreadable anyway,

Lol, yeah. I'm not reading that.

S_S the more i think about your claim the more i want to believe it is real.
I feel like it explains your play and it also seems very unlike you to come up with a fake claim, and have it be something unusual such as vengeful of all things.

You're telling me the claim didn't even strike you with even a little paranoia?

Also this is an weird thought. Why is claiming ascetic on day 1 used as an example? I think that usually comes from town so why is that the example used?

I'm always paranoid of Ascetic claims. Especially on slots that I feel would be a cagey read to begin with.

[Toogeloo]

Will have to cross check this with Control. I don't remember who all pushed tictac on the ascetic claim besides Ceph

I don't remember if I pushed tictac on their ascetic claim or not in Control. I spent most of that game as a sheep to Norwee.

But you can look at Fusion uPick where I called out Ircher and then doubled down on it when he admitted to lying about the claim. And I called out LLD for a suspicious Day 1 claim that I felt could be a cover for Mafia in Isekai Mafia.

The point being that there are certain claims where you shouldn't just nod your head and think to yourself, "yeah, that probably legit."

[Toogeloo]

VOTE: RCEnigma

I think we can make something concrete happen.

[Toogeloo]

Norwee, Norwee...

SS and I are Masons too! We totally town read you, so we knew the best play was to sheep you.

In other news... I might actually get some sleep tonight.

[Toogeloo]

hope you feel better Tooges

Mentally, playing scum tends to break me down. In real life, I feel absolutely nauseous if I attempt to deceive other people, and I am horrid liar (my wife reminds me constantly that I can't ever keep a secret from her because I have literal physical tells).

I am not kidding at all when I say that I don't sleep well when I get a scum PM.

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I want to give a shout out to my scum buddy SS. I think we both felt Day 1 put us on the uphill climb, and for two players who don't really take control of games, SS never wavered without. I would like to say we got extremely lucky moreso than we played well, lol. I'm sure we owe some diety a few sexual favors.

I am sorry for how hard your game was Pooky. I truly felt bad, like I did you dirty.

[Toogeloo]

I seriously considered making this my last game, but it's hard to walk away from this.