Mafia Invictus Redux [Game Over]
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Day 3 Start
VP Baltar has been eliminated! He was a...
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His determination manifests and reaches beyond this place of wrath and tears!
Lukewarm has been eliminated! He was a...
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Malakittens has been eliminated! She was a...
Spoiler: Malakittens
Her determination manifests and reaches beyond this place of wrath and tears!
Dwlee99 has been eliminated! They were a...
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Vote Count 3.0
Player Votes Not Voting(12)Bell, Fey, fireisredsir, Dunnstral, Rhyme and Reason, Meuh, Val89, Gammagooey, Kovu, Enchant, SirCakez, gorilla
With 12 players alive, it takes 7 votes to eliminate.
No elimination has been achieved. The Day 3 deadline is in (expired on 2022-06-21 01:00:00).
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In post 108, Fey wrote:I want to say this is Marci's towngame off the top of my head. Not freezing up, replying/responding to a few different things. Seems out of the scope for her from what I recall.In post 279, Fey wrote:VOTE: Bell
Skimmed Lavar and Bell, Lavar feels... in his own little world sort of deal. Like the read on Dunnstral of all people as potentially shady feels out there in a world where scum!Lavar probably doesn't need to be right now. Is a weird place to fixate. Just seems like he's doing his own thing.
Bell feels on the fringes and like. I dunno. I have an expectation of something "more" as vague as it is, but he feels very shady with the things he's posting and also just like "eh, whatever" to questions, all that. A presence that doesn't really want to be around at all but knows he has to be, and like... throwing out whatever thoughts because he has to, given prior games where he spews out his thoughts and boom everyone reads him right.
@Someone, I think VP asked me about Marci and what she could/couldn't post, compare 213 to like, Holiday Dance Party, where she was a lot more sheepish I feel. Here she's all attitude and bite and I feel that's more of a hallmark of her as town.In post 745, Fey wrote:I’ve jumped around in vote a few times. I’ve given some takes that I think should be more memorable (Lavar town, Marci town). Not a lot but I’m not going to force myself to give a lot.
Just because you don’t remember it doesn’t mean it’s not there though. Shrug.In post 971, Fey wrote:Obligatory I still think Lavar is town.
I don’t particularly like the alternative of Marci but I don’t have a great grasp of what else I would do wagonwise. Probably not Luke/Kovu/fire/gorilla and shrug at the rest. My reasons for those names is just memory of goodvibes when I was reading closer than I am now.
VOTE: MarcistarFey talks Marci up as town due to meta early on, and brings it back in 735. Then they vote for Marci for seemingly no reason. The top 2 wagons are Lavar and Dwlee at this point, Marci isn't in contention. And then they quickly switch to Dwlee after with no reasoning.
In post 80, marcistar wrote: I like fey as well, she keeps asking questions and it seems like those questions are her trying to push the game forward so i think shes towny :good:In post 148, marcistar wrote: i dont think fey seemed scummy, i like what she posted so far she looks like shes trying to solve :angry:In post 928, marcistar wrote: i dont have alot of time to like type up thoughts since im at work for like another 4 hrs, and then ill be sleeping but if u have anything ur curious abt u can juat ask (:
i think gammagooey has a couple of agreeable takes but they piss me off so dont tell them i said that im not sure what i think of them tho aince the agreeable takes are v basic takes
i think kouvs town but i wouldnt trust them leading anything because theyre too emotional about things and too reactivey
balters i would say how self centered he is, i dont like that, so he scummy
fey towny
sircakez scummy, the bandwagoning is not good vibes at all
i dont like vals view of the invixtus mechanic because it reminds me of a diff game i played w him, but otherwise hes mid, he has some good thoughts
idk who else existsIn post 2088, marcistar wrote:
also yeah this feels weird idk y thoIn post 2074, Fey wrote:Anyways,
Still voting Dwlee, if that wagon's not a thing then RIP. I don't actually know how to read Dunn.
If Meuh flares up I'll go there. Sure. Why not.
On Marci's side, she barely talks abotu fey. Starting with a townread that is not well explained, a long period of silence, and then switching to a scumread which I think is weird because I'm not sure what motivation Marci has to switch reads here when they are gaining pressure unless it's to distance. I don't think Fey was a likely elimination, and in fact Dwlee flipped town and was almost eliminated but Marci didn't vote there.In post 2216, marcistar wrote:fey, because earlier when i was looking at the votes on dwlees wagon her vote stuck out the most to me. it seemed pretty scummy and her other posts regarding dwlee do as well tbhs
The interactions between the two feel partnered to me.
VOTE: Fey-
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Hey guys! Wrote this before daystart. So whatever happened at night isn’t considered.
I decided to research. Ctrl-F people’s ISOS for Marci’s name, and vice versa!
A new advanced investigation technique.
Dunnstral
132 - Shading Dwlee for scumreading - but not voting - Marci.
134 - Questioning Marci’s typing style
712 - A lot of Dunn’s engagement with Marci so far comprises simple questions which don’t seem to get followed up much.
916 - Marci answers
1081 - Responding to an argument against Marci in a way that both diminishes the argument and draws attention away from Marci.
1088 - Oh, Marci’s response is acknowledged. Dunn likes some parts of Marci’s post, but doesn't like others. This is probably the juiciest interaction of theirs so far and I’m not convinced they aren’t paired.
1234 - This is interesting stuff. Dunn throws some shade Val and Marci’s way, but also says the Datisi wagon was likely town-driven. Don’t like this one.
1241 - Marci likes Gorilla’s reasoning on the Dunn vote. Does not push Dunn further.
1375 - Marci shades Gamma for not pushing for Dunn on day 1. And she “doesn’t like” the vote on Gorilla.
1395 - Marci shading Gamma’s vote on Dunn. When prompted to vote for Dunn, she answers “no sorry, i dont want to join my scumread on a wagon, shocker there.”. Ooh boy.
1398 - She makes her refusal to vote on Dunn more about Gamma being scummy and shifts the blame there.
1403 - Dunn makes sure to clarify that while they scumread Gorilla, they aren’t sold on Gorilla/Marci.
1636 - Asking about Dunn
1723 - Throws Marci in as a townlean along with VPB and I. They apparently like Marci because of Luke’s said she’s town, unlike the others who they scumread on their own merit.
I think the one-sidededness of Marci and Dunn’s interactions could mean Dunn’s not partnered with her. Within the 2, Marci has the bulk of the awkward interactions. I’d still say they’re >rand scum, and I’m uneasy about them.
Fey
80 - Marci likes Fey. To note this is specifically being said in response to someone else’s townread on Fey.
108 - Fey thinks this is Marci’s towngame. From what she recalls, Marci not freezing up and responding to stuff is out of her scope. Bit of a weird read.
148 - She thinks Fey looks townie and thinks Datisi is scummy for suggesting the opposite.
279 - Is a bit clearer about Fey’s read on Marci and feels better than her last post on the topic.
928 - “Fey towny” is mentioned and not elaborated on.
971 - Fey votes on Marci, specifically as a response to Lavar. Makes sure to mention she doesn’t particularly like the wagon.
1011 - 40 posts later and that vote is gone, in favour of the Dwlee wagon.
1178 - Marci townread exists, Fey never mentions her again.
2088 - Oh. Marci thinks one of Fey’s posts is weird.
2216 - Marci’s at 7 votes and decides to say she scumreads Fey. Cool. This is probably distancing.
Fey’s probably the most likely scum in this game.
Edit: Ouch, those were some not accurate shots.
The impression I get from the modpost is that these 2 chains happened.
VPB died -> invictus Lukewarm
Mala died -> invictus Dwlee
If you look at the story and the separation in the role pms, that’s what makes most sense
I wish scummier players had been killed
My top 3 scumreads are still alive sadly
I’d guess VPB was the mafia kill, and Mala was Lukewarm’s kill.
I suppose this confirms R&R and makes Bell’s clear being fake impossible, right? Doesn’t really change my outlook on the game but it’s nice!
@Dunn I think your assessment of who killed who is correct
Oh and Dunn got there about Fey before me
Stealing my thunder!
VOTE: Fey-
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Lol I wasn’t gonna talk but I have to.
I think maf has a role that messes with the invictus shot of who they kill. I don’t believe LLD shot Datisi, and I don’t believe VP shot Luke.. Now, why in the world Luke would vig shoot mala? no freaking clue…
And Cakez in not clear, in fact I’m just about certain he’s maf. I have a hood with him, thus I didn’t want him gone day 2, but considering how 0 of my SRs just happened to die there… told him how I thought Fey was maf, then Dunn and Meuh just rush into today going “FEY MAF!!” Something is off, and I think it all starts with the fact Cakez is maf.
@RR He adds people to a hood, and yall were my number one pick for who to add last night cause 2 of yall, but he decided he didn’t want to add yall and instead wanted the conf clear who was tunneled on VP… and I’m pretty certain if yall saw the hood yall would instantly call him scum cause cakez in the hood is not great…
So yeah, seeing meuh and dunn instantly go for fey is interesting to me, but yall, i’m just about certain cakez is maf.
And just a reminder we have 12 alive, and I’m pretty certain a scum role can pick the invictus kills, so maf basically has a double kill… we’re at 12 now, and if town is making these stupid “hero shots” we literally deserve to lose…
As for my other hood, I’m certain fire is town, The cakez hood? Cakez not town at all.
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Because you faked a clear on sircakez and made it look like somebody was lying about their role on balanceIn post 2234, Kovu wrote:Now, why in the world Luke would vig shoot mala? no freaking clue…-
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Wouldn’t this defeat the point of the setup? I kind of doubt this is the caseIn post 2234, Kovu wrote:I think maf has a role that messes with the invictus shot of who they kill
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It wasn't because "Luke said she's town"In post 2233, Meuh wrote:They apparently like Marci because of Luke’s said she’s town, unlike the others who they scumread on their own merit.
I agreed with the post Luke made. Also Marci really stepped up her scum game from the last time I've seen it, where it was really obvious.-
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I literally didn’t, Cakez added me to a hood, and I needed yall to not yeet him so we could get someone else in the hood, so don’t come at me for “faking a clear” when you have Luke vig shoot Mala who was claiming RR clear.
Exactly 1 role “could break rules” I just about guarantee it’s the scum invictus thing… why else are all the “do nothing”/“low poe” town alive… notice how all the people doing the most/the strongest town are dead… yeah I wonder why
but yeah, I’m literally putting the info out that Cakez is not town at all.. I did Tr him D1 yes, I Tred his role too, but here we are, I do agree with yall on Fey scummy yes, but I think Cakez is a bigger threat? idk we’re probably losing if we lim wrong today so that’s a thing too
Dunn why are you siding with cakez here? Cause it’s sounding like you’re taking his side-
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Are you saying that you never said that cakez was clear town?In post 2238, Kovu wrote:I literally didn’t, Cakez added me to a hood, and I needed yall to not yeet him so we could get someone else in the hood, so don’t come at me for “faking a clear” when you have Luke vig shoot Mala who was claiming RR clear.-
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Quote where this happenedIn post 2238, Kovu wrote:Dunn why are you siding with cakez here? Cause it’s sounding like you’re taking his side-
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Was that game Tarot? If so then that read makes a lot more sense. That game is the exception to the rule though, she’s less obvious than that in basically all of her scum games. She’s fooled me beforeIn post 2237, Dunnstral wrote:
It wasn't because "Luke said she's town"In post 2233, Meuh wrote:They apparently like Marci because of Luke’s said she’s town, unlike the others who they scumread on their own merit.
I agreed with the post Luke made. Also Marci really stepped up her scum game from the last time I've seen it, where it was really obvious.
@Kovu Sometimes townies are wrong. They could also want to shoot their less popular scum reads, since they’re unlikely to die at day (I think VPB killing Luke fits the bill). I don’t really find it that hard to believe that a few townies were wrong.
Cmon, this is a fake clear.In post 1828, Kovu wrote:I mean, I have info that I'm almost certain clears cakez so yeah, he's not being limmed here
That post pretty clearly was made to make us think Cakez was mechanically cleared. Deceiving the town is usually a bad idea, though.
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It was Tarot, yesIn post 2241, Meuh wrote:Was that game Tarot? If so then that read makes a lot more sense. That game is the exception to the rule though, she’s less obvious than that in basically all of her scum games. She’s fooled me before-
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Fuck it, full claim time it is then, because this does seem like far too much power to be reasonable.
I am a Novice Traffic Analyst.
There was reason I asked this, Kovu.In post 1274, Val89 wrote:Anyone else in that hood that can corroborate either way?
VOTE: SirCakez-
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In post 2244, Fey wrote:I’m a two shot detective.
Plus the 1 shot cop and the friendly neighborIn post 2245, Val89 wrote:I am a Novice Traffic Analyst.
I think that this is too much investigative/clearing power and that Fey is fake claiming-
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