Mafia Invictus Redux [Game Over]

[Prism]

I am

EXTREMELY

unhappy and disappointed with the angleshooting and gamesmanship shamelessly taking place, regardless of the alignment of any or all players involved.

There exists a site workaround, well outside of the bounds of the game, to deduce exactly what thread was linked with near 100% certainty. I do not think any players should be at an advantage or disadvantage as a result of ignorance or knowledge of it.

As a result, I will publicly confirm that the linked posts come from Gammagooey's personal PT.

Let me be crystal clear: Any attempt at further site gamesmanship, out-of-game influence, or angleshooting will result in immediate forcereplacement.

If you're not sure something you want to say qualifies, ask me.

You are free to discuss the fact that the linked posts were to a personal PT as desired.

[Prism]

Let this serve as a warning not to use the [post=] bb code in creating drafts in a PT. Use [url=].

I do not want to have this conversation again, period.

[Fey]

Laaaaaaame.

UNVOTE:

[Kovu]

VOTE: Dunn
Back to Dunn then I guess

[Meuh]

Yeah this is why I didn’t mention this earlier, fair

UNVOTE:

[Fey]

What’s the Dunn case again?

I remember he gave a defense of me in SH that was pretty pocket-y and he has engaged me fairly enough here that I’m curious.

[Kovu]

So then, that means Gamma is town. like, drafting posts like that is a towny thing to do. idk who the mafia are anymore. let's yeet dunn and that shall be it!! lol

[Kovu]

What’s the Dunn case again?

I remember he gave a defense of me in SH that was pretty pocket-y and he has engaged me fairly enough here that I’m curious.

I think it's different for everyone, the VC stuff points to being marci's partner in my opinion

[Val89]

I also want to add on to my point that I wouldn't have neighborized conftown if I were scum here - not only did I neighborize conftown, but I neighborized BELL

I would have brought a scum buddy in if I was scum here and I would have easily gotten away with it because Kovu literally gave me like five options to choose

Who were the other 4?

Kovu, you can probably answer this one for me.

[Kovu]

Actually, if no one wants to invictus enchant, can we just lim them? like.. there is NO world in which Enchant can be town here, and hey, a maf is a maf...

[SirCakez]

VOTE: Dunn
back here

[SirCakez]

Enchant should have been Invictus-ed ages ago but so far it looks like everyone has been trying to hero shoot with their Invictus rather then clearing out the universal scum reads :/
well I guess Dwlee had to go but the others yuck

[Gammagooey]

@Kovu - I think gorilla had a point day 2 I think it was that a couple of Enchant posts (when Enchant talked about potentially allowing themselves to be vigged) were more likely to come from town.

now, am I willing to bet the game on that? absolutely not and I will be pretty surprised if they're not dead within the next 2 day/night cycles. I also have no comment on whether or not I personally will have my invictus on Enchant tonight.
Do I want to elim them over one of Fey/Dunn today though? Not really.

also I'm still not actually voting yet am I
VOTE: Dunn

@gorilla if you have some overall Cakez thoughts I'd like to hear them before the end of the day - I get the points regarding him + marci but I'd like to know what you think of his overall play/attitude so far this game particularly.

[Val89]

Cakez, I think there might be some merit in the idea scum!you might be less likley to bring Bell in.

In order to evaluate that properly, I would like to know who the alternatives you were presented with, please.

[Bell]

I would be appreciative if sircakez actually wrote down the advantages and disadvantages of adding versus not adding me beyond “I totally would have owned them” which sounds a lot like wish fulfillment or fantasy.

[Bell]

…Gamma that’s like saying that y appeared townie because they said they don’t fear death, only letting the town down *patriotic tear*

[SirCakez]

Kovu suggested Dwlee, Fire, RR, VPB and Bell

[SirCakez]

If I'm scum here it's obviously in my advantage to keep Kovu townreading me and a good way to do that is working them over in the hood
Adding probably the #1 person trying to kill me in Bell would accomplish exactly the opposite of that
As was seen at the beginning of today when Bell convinced Kovu I was mafia for a bit

[SirCakez]

Hell even just adding a less active town like Dwlee would have beaten adding Bell

[Gammagooey]

…Gamma that’s like saying that y appeared townie because they said they don’t fear death, only letting the town down *patriotic tear*

SALUTE, SOLDIER

[Meuh]

I would die for my country but I could never let my country die for me!



AMERICA!!!

[Bell]

If I'm scum here it's obviously in my advantage to keep Kovu townreading me and a good way to do that is working them over in the hood
Adding probably the #1 person trying to kill me in Bell would accomplish exactly the opposite of that
As was seen at the beginning of today when Bell convinced Kovu I was mafia for a bit

1. You didn’t do this cause you were busy it’s in your interest as either alignment to do this.
2. What about Kovu’s posts make you think they can be convinced by other people. I can’t imagine convincing kovu to vote a scum read they didn’t agree with.

[fireisredsir]

Kovu suggested Dwlee, Fire, RR, VPB and Bell

fmpov this sure sounds like you didn't have an opportunity to add a scum buddy so idk why you said that was an option for you

vp and dwlee flipped town, bell and RR are conftown, im town

???

what did you mean by that

[fireisredsir]

Y'all can tell me who to hood idc
I picked Bell because he's conftown so it was the obvious choice
I would have brought a scum buddy in if I was scum here and I would have easily gotten away with it because Kovu literally gave me like five options to choose

?

[fireisredsir]

even if you're suggesting a world where you could be scum with me that makes no sense bc you gain very little from adding me when im already in a hood with kovu