Open 862: Diffusion of Power (Game Over)

[Something_Smart]

VC 2.1

NorwegianboyEE (1)- Bellaphant
Somnus (1)- Enchant
Not_Mafia (1)- NorwegianboyEE
froggodoggo (1)- Not_Mafia

Not voting (7)- Fun Times, PenguinPower, Somnus, BlueBloodedToffee, froggodoggo, Gamma Emerald, GoldfishFromTheMoon

With 11 alive it takes 6 to reach a majority.

Deadline is in (expired on 2022-08-22 16:00:00)

Mod notes: I will be out of town for the next few days, bother the worst if you need anything.

[Fun Times]

Self-voting as town. Even more heinous crime.

Town should never ever self-hammer but I don’t think I’ve ever seen town not even try to put up a fight and then self-hammer.

And why didn’t she claim her role? Anything.

~N

[Fun Times]

Agree that her ISO doesn't look great. I have some conflicting thoughts on this and want to see how it plays out. Not really concerned if this puts me under the radar or if some of these thoughts are admittedly bad, but here's where I'm at with her:

1.) I'm really careful about scum-reading someone just for making some jokey posts in the early phases of a game. I actually enjoy when people are light-hearted in games to make it not such a serious slog 24/7. That's why even though Not_Mafia is kind of a pain in the ass to get serious thoughts out of, I enjoy having people like him in the game.

2.) It's no secret that Alianna is one of my favorite people on the site. We've played a couple games together and spectated a couple of games together. I'm only in this game because she dragged me into it. I wasn't super into this setup and thought it looked insanely town-sided (although, according to the wiki, mafia is actually ahead of town in this setup, although it was last edited in 2018). This is an objectively terrible reason, admittedly, but I'm going to feel really really bad if less than 24 hours into this game, I bandwagon her off and she flips town. I'm not saying I'm unwilling to vote there today, but I'm not willing to pile on and get her speed-voted out of this game right away. I want to see how things play out with her now that she has a wagon forming on her first. If this makes me look bad, so be it. I'm not concerned with how I look.

3.) Even though I'm quite familiar with her play, she's never rolled scum on this site. All of her games have been town. When we've played together, I've never had to legit read her, because both times, I was scum and she was town. So yes, I'm going to be a little patient here in trying to determine her alignment. I'm not dodging the situation. I'm approaching it carefully for the time being.

Considering the flip, this post looks good, I think.

~N

[Fun Times]

Don’t have much time to post rn but that self hammer fkin sucked and I want to lim the hydra for putting such overwhelming pressure on Alianna. It was ludicrous

Agreed with Frog.

That’s typical of Andante’s townplay and I thought she looked scummy as well.

[Fun Times]

Andante actually said to me in our discord that she thinks mafia would fear kill us. I told her I don’t see why sunce we were wrong.

[Fun Times]

Don’t have much time to post rn but that self hammer fkin sucked and I want to lim the hydra for putting such overwhelming pressure on Alianna. It was ludicrous

So vote there?

I do want to hear more from nancy today tbh.

Penguin is very familiar with how Andante posts and Norwee wrongly reading me in a game for like the first time ever. @Norwee, how does Andante sound anything here like in HDP to you?

And how do I sound like I did in Pooky v FL either?

[Fun Times]

Don’t have much time to post rn but that self hammer fkin sucked and I want to lim the hydra for putting such overwhelming pressure on Alianna. It was ludicrous

Agreed with Frog.

they're almost certainly town despite the townflip imo

Yeah, I’m a bit suss that Norwee thinks this is ever how I play scum. He was in Stumps’ game. Don’t know about Frog but Norwee agreeing with it concerns me greatly.

[Fun Times]

the confidence in the scumflip?

That isn’t townie so i do not townclear them for this.

VOTE: Norwee

Cool

[Fun Times]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald
Bad reason to SR me and bad reason to TR Fun Times.
I found my next vote.

Bad vote, Gamma was in Terminator so he’s seen how Andante plays.

[Fun Times]

the confidence in the scumflip?

That isn’t townie so i do not townclear them for this.

You actually SR me here? I mean, I'm not asking to be town cleared for limming a town, I just believe there a lot better people to focus on here

How right you were.

What's the question here? I was like one of the only people who actually gave a reason for that vote. Froggo voted too, so I find it interesting froggo is coming at us, like, I wrote yall a paragraph of my full thoughts on that situation, no one had questions at the time, yall just ran with it.

- Real talk, we need to hear from goldfish, I don't like the idea of just playing this game as if goldfish isn't here

-Andante

Yeah good point. I don’t tr them either.

[Fun Times]

I just stated that you were right i should focus on other people. Because Gamma read on you screams TMI.

For Andante^

Nope

[Fun Times]

Not to get told off for using meta or anything I'd probably be townleaning him anyway

Since when do you worry so much about what others think pal

Umm NM, she was the nk.

Are you not reading the game?

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

I'm a night 1 cop, Somnus is town

[PenguinPower]

yea ok - fun times is town.

moving on.

[PenguinPower]

I'm a night 1 cop, Somnus is town

yeah - we arrived there from play, but thanks.

[PenguinPower]

you checked somnus because?

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

Lol. Goldfish didn't even get to post in the first Day of the game.

That's funny.

My first post is on page 27 lol it's kinda sad.

[Fun Times]

My top 2 SRs right now, are Not_Mafia from day 1, and froggo basically just claimed wolf here on D2 (explained above)

that's where I'm at, don't think I have any more to contribute for now, I want something from Goldfish by the time I'm back.
(Nancy will probably be around later)

-Andante

I could switch to them. They’re freaking out on us when they literally did nothing to save Ali, just seems way over the top.

Idk if I necessarily agree on NM. I’m still on the fence.

But Norwee should know better, he was in both Stumps and HDP. I like his Somnus read though. so I’m conflicted. I think one of him or Frog could be scum.

[Fun Times]

Andante you did act very forcefully. Especially when you called their first post in a while nothing short of an scum claim.
I think it’s perfectly valid to give you blame for the outcome. Though keep in mind, i’m not saying that makes you scum.

How do you figure that fake Sherlock?

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

you checked somnus because?

1. Because I find them hard to read
2. a few ppl were scumreading them
3. someone (I think it was bbt) suggested them as a good check
And 4. because I'm paranoid because they've been scum in every game I've played with them.

[Fun Times]

idk, you can ask her next time she's around. but why is that relevant to me saying I'm good with Alianna wagon? (I gave my reasons earlier)

-Andante

You seem very aggressive over banal question my buddy

Maybe Andante is seeing something I don’t? Interesting.

[PenguinPower]

you checked somnus because?

1. Because I find them hard to read
2. a few ppl were scumreading them
3. someone (I think it was bbt) suggested them as a good check
And 4. because I'm paranoid because they've been scum in every game I've played with them.

valid

[Fun Times]

Wow....two lolhammers not interested in lolhammering...

this is a wacky world.

in this wacky world, are you a wolf?

-Andante

No because the scum here are Mafia

Water is also wet.

You’re not actually funny.

[Somnus]

Ehhhh....I can't really deal with this right now and I'm on a couple hours of sleep. But I'm just going to point out to Goldfish that I've read Democrabilities (including the mafia PT thread) so I'm kind of at a quandary here as far as how to proceed with you.

(Glad you're here though regardless.)

[Fun Times]

What is meta.

is this a position you want to seriously take?

Yes, i’m trying to eliminate meta in my solving so i don’t take it into account.

Meta is very useful and when did you happen to have this extremely curious chsnge of heart?