Open 862: Diffusion of Power (Game Over)

[Not_Mafia]

As much as BBT hates meta, I think I have a good sense of genuine town curmudgeon BBT vs scum BBT. Looking at Bella's ISO there's really nothing

wrong

with per se, but she definitely going through the motions and her narrative style of play is pretty easy to fake as scum.

This is actually insanely frustrating as well.

Why is it frustrating?

[PenguinPower]

why do you say she's expressly focused on BBT?

Spoiler: Seems focused on bbt

Looking at the votes and positioning, I think the ones that ring alarm bells for me are pp, gamma and bbt, but I did have an early tr on gamma. I really liked nm posting on the last page.

VOTE: bbt I feel like I've been giving the benefit of the doubt but the last page or so feels like lining up mis-lims.

VOTE: penguin power the bbt thing isn't going to get resolved if they aren't here.

VOTE: bbt

We should've done this yesterday

Why fake claim a guilty once when you can do it twice??

There isn't a why. He's really clearly demotivated scum.

I've not seen you like this full stop.
To half arse faking a guilty?

Spoiler: while leaving room to move anywhere the wind shifts

Looking at the votes and positioning, I think the ones that ring alarm bells for me are pp, gamma and bbt, but I did have an early tr on gamma. I really liked nm posting on the last page.

@norwee, haven't looked at actual votes but the 'early' ones were nm, enchant and somnus, yeah? Out of those, somnus is most likely town.

Trying to get my head around maybe both wagons being on scum: it would explain why we couldn't get a pile on of votes later on the day.

? I've already strongly indicated I'd be fine voting penguin. I like my current vote better right now: do you think it's a bad one?

Plus you wanted to elim me, my top town read and gamma, who I was hard tr-ing at day start but not so much now. It rang alarm bells.

Real talk: i also thought you were trying to fake claim a guilty on me with your day start vote , which just felt really off: I was kinda waiting to see what you were gonna do with it, but then nothing happened.

Gammas votes today have been awful though

@pp, I have no reason to tr you in your posting and your position around yesterday's wagons looks scummy.

Also, you've ignored the bulk of my post to focus on me saying my read of norwee has evolved? I'm sure that's not the most interesting thing I said.

That's terrible. Why norwee ?

Tbf I am slightly concerned by norwee today.

Spoiler: also don't like actions around the jake wagon

I've talked about enchant and Jake a lot. Enchant hasn't really tried to engage in my scum read of them, although they have done to slots like gamma, which also strikes me as weird. It would be easy to say the dueling wagons mean one is deffo town and one is deffo scum, and from that 50/50 I'd pick enchant any day -i don't see what the hydra sees about their meta (enchant has had scum games where they are absent, but not all of them, and does this feel like deptuy cultists enchant to you??).

Switching my vote won't even end the day, will it? I'm around for a bit tonight.

@pp, @gamma, can you talk about moving your vote at the end of the day? I hadn't realised how shifting the wagons were.

Spoiler: or kopwagon tbh

[PenguinPower]

I think most people voting thought this was going to flip town!

If they don't respond to Thier imminent prod with some content, I'll hammer


Actually, I'll hammer even if I don't like the contents

ffs

[PenguinPower]

Spoiler: or kopwagon tbh

If they don't respond to Thier imminent prod with some content, I'll hammer


Actually, I'll hammer even if I don't like the contents

I think most people voting thought this was going to flip town!

bbcode hates me

[PenguinPower]

ftr I see Norwee volunteering his n4 doc claim like he did as towny
If I'm wrong, well that's revenge for gensokyo ig

uhh - it's completely nai

[NorwegianboyEE]

It was norwee not seeming bothered that really put me off. They've been my strongest town read all game (i still think gamma and norwee are top town) but it was a realt surprise to have them just knock back what could be progress while bitching about the cop elim.

I don't understand why this makes you second guess an read you proclaim to have had all game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It seems to be an very minor reason to change an read you supposedly had very high confidence in.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

What does that mean to you Norwee?

[NorwegianboyEE]

What does that mean to you Norwee?

I'll tell you when they have responded.

[Somnus]

In honor of us all being stuck together for one month now:


Seems only fitting to look back fondly at all of the great memories over the last month. Here's a few of them:

VC 1.3

Alianna

(4)-

froggodoggo

, Gamma Emerald, Bellaphant, NorwegianboyEE
PenguinPower (2)-

Ausuka

, PenguinPower

Ausuka

(1)-

Alianna

NorwegianboyEE (1)-

Somnus

Not voting (5)- Not_Mafia,

GoldfishFromTheMoon

,

Enchant

, BlueBloodedToffee,

Fun Times

With 13 alive it takes 7 to reach a majority.

Deadline is in (expired on 2022-08-19 11:00:00)

Mod notes: I ate an English muffin that didn't agree with me and now I feel sick ):

VC 2.4

NorwegianboyEE (3)- Bellaphant,

Enchant

,

Fun Times

Enchant

(2)-

Jake The Wolfie

, NorwegianboyEE

Jake The Wolfie

(1)- Not_Mafia

Fun Times

(1)- BlueBloodedToffee

Not voting (4)- PenguinPower,

Somnus

,

GoldfishFromTheMoon

, Gamma Emerald

With 11 alive it takes 6 to reach a majority.

Deadline is in (expired on 2022-08-22 16:00:00)

Mod notes: Prodding GoldfishFromTheMoon.

VC 2.6

Enchant

(3)- Bellaphant, NorwegianboyEE,

Jake The Wolfie

Jake The Wolfie

(2)- Not_Mafia, PenguinPower
Bellaphant (1)- BlueBloodedToffee

Don Draper x Mistress

(1)-

Enchant

Not voting (4)-

GoldfishFromTheMoon

, Gamma Emerald,

Somnus

,

Don Draper x Mistress

With 11 alive it takes 6 to reach a majority.

Deadline is in (expired on 2022-08-22 16:00:00)

Mod notes: I'm tired and I need to go shopping tonight

VC 2.7

Jake The Wolfie

(5)- Not_Mafia, PenguinPower,

Enchant

,

Somnus

, BlueBloodedToffee (E-1)

Enchant

(3)- Bellaphant, NorwegianboyEE,

Jake The Wolfie

Not voting (3)-

GoldfishFromTheMoon

, Gamma Emerald,

Don Draper x Mistress

With 11 alive it takes 6 to reach a majority.

Deadline is in (expired on 2022-08-22 16:00:00)

Mod notes: This will be the first weekend I have to myself in, like, a month, so yay. The deadline will pause at 24 hours if I still haven't found a replacement for Goldfish.

VC 3.4

PenguinPower (4)- NorwegianboyEE,

Kop

, Bellaphant, Gamma Emerald (E-1)
NorwegianboyEE (2)- BlueBloodedToffee, PenguinPower

Kop

(1)- Not_Mafia

Not voting (2)-

Somnus

,

Enchant

With 9 alive it takes 5 to reach a majority.

Deadline is in (expired on 2022-09-07 17:00:00)

Mod notes: Prodding Kop.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Norwegian and Bella have voted a lot together.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Means they're unlikely to both be scum I think.

One of Bella/Norwegian and then Gamma.

There. Game solved. Easy.

[Gamma Emerald]

lmao nice omgus

[PenguinPower]

I mean - I said a very similar thing yesterday:

all scum likely on my wagon rn, yes. one of {bella, norwe} and one of {kop, gamma}

probably norwe/kop

[PenguinPower]

acutally - that would equate to the exact same thing today given kop being town.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

lmao nice omgus

Gamma pushing Enchant is prob scum as well.

Elimming Gamma/Bella/Norwegian likely wins this game.

VOTE: BBT
I think his content is generally okay so this is just shitpush insurance (I’ll come up with a better term later)

Lmao. Nope.

People should revisit Gamma's posting during the Enchant and Jake wagon build up. They heavily favoured elimming Enchant and only switched when Penguin went back to Jake.

I think this was an attempt to pocket Penguin and make sure he continued town reading him.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Unless Enchant has drastically switched up his scumgame, his making posts like “99% wrong”, questioning if another player is town are things I don’t recall seeing from past Enchant scumgames. Do you disagree? @Gamma.

I don’t really read Enchant on content, I read him on vibes. He’s given me more of a scum vibe than a town vibe but if the data supports your theory I’m willing to go with it. But unless a suspect comes up that’s better than either of Jake/Enchant, I’d rather vote out Enchant today because I feel like leaving Jake alive might tell us more if he is scum.

Gamma is scum.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Trying to stay on Hydra's good side whilst still saying he would prefer Enchant to Jake despite saying he would trust Nancy's read.

This post is all over the place.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Bella, hello.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Also makes sense with Nancy being killed so that Gamma could then continue with his push on Enchant without worrying about pushback from Nancy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Convenient how Bellaphant said they sussed me, then went real quiet about that when put on E-1.
I’ve already said i thought Bella could be scum earlier this game. This is payback for what feels like an attempt ar a real slimy turn around. I wouldn’t have done this if it wasn’t for that.
VOTE: Bellaphant

[BlueBloodedToffee]

That switch from Norwee and attempt to direct to Bella, fuck.

It's Gamma/Norwee

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok bro.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You sat on my wagon the entire time.

You think both me and Bella are scum? As soon as I start trying to change thread direction to Gamma, you jump in with a post about Bella and then proceed to flip to opposite wagon to end discussion.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why would i think you and Bella are scum. I think one of you are likely scum.