Gnosia Game over!

[Not Known 15]

It seems I'll have to decide the freeze. Just give me a small bit of time...

VOTE: Marashu

Cool. It's follow the cop right now anyway so I really don't mind. We probably have plenty of time before replacements, so what would you like from me for now? Character claim? Full claim? You can go back a page to see where I'm at with reads, nothing's really changed.

No I actually can't see ALL your reads.
Please provide a readslist on every single person. With detailed and through explanation on every single read.

(yes this means a massive wall with a lot of text).

[FakeGod]

Alright, Roden.

I trust you, and I will defer to your expertise.

[Roden]

OK.

Can the Doctor please step forward?

[shiki]

what if it’s me

Spoiler:

it’s not

[Ranger]

FakeGod:

Since you seemed so focused on mech talk rather than scumhunting, he's a mech question for your power:

Town and traitor must true-claim to my ability - Bug and groupscum can lie.

What would happen if you targeted the Guardian Angel with this power?

[Ranger]

VOTE: Marashu

L-2

[FakeGod]

Guardian Angel is allowed to lie as well.

[Freedom]

who are the most suspicious to you (freedom) right now?

Maybe FakeGod?

[Freedom]

It seems I'll have to decide the freeze. Just give me a small bit of time...

VOTE: Marashu

Cool. It's follow the cop right now anyway so I really don't mind. We probably have plenty of time before replacements, so what would you like from me for now? Character claim? Full claim? You can go back a page to see where I'm at with reads, nothing's really changed.

Full claim, please.

[Marashu]

Working on this has made me remember why I don't do this anymore and how much I dislike doing it (and also how draining it is). My pace is about a paragraph an hour between re-reading, cross-referencing posts to see what they meant in context of when they were posted, and writing, and I'm not even done the ISO for the first player in my list. Ugh.

So I'm just gonna claim. VT, character is the unnamed Protag (specifically The Player). Ability is Self-Learning, which really just means I'm a universal character ability backup. It's for the first player who dies, so normally the first elim, but if we go to deadline with a draw, I'd inherit the skill of the first player to get NK'd instead. Since most abilities are likely at night anyway, I wouldn't really be adding any extra shots to the pool unless no elim D1 AND somehow no NK N1, so losing this N1 really isn't a big deal imo, since it just guarantees that whoever the first player to get eliminated is still gets their ability in the game. Also could be used to verify a character ability claim, but I think that boat has sailed. All in all as Day 1 miselims go mine's pretty safe.

I'll keep working on my detailed ISO list until bed, then when I get up and during my breaks at work tomorrow, assuming I'm still alive. I don't know how helpful this is going to be, though, but I'll keep working on it.

[Freedom]

Working on this has made me remember why I don't do this anymore and how much I dislike doing it (and also how draining it is). My pace is about a paragraph an hour between re-reading, cross-referencing posts to see what they meant in context of when they were posted, and writing, and I'm not even done the ISO for the first player in my list. Ugh.

So I'm just gonna claim. VT, character is the unnamed Protag (specifically The Player). Ability is Self-Learning, which really just means I'm a universal character ability backup. It's for the first player who dies, so normally the first elim, but if we go to deadline with a draw, I'd inherit the skill of the first player to get NK'd instead. Since most abilities are likely at night anyway, I wouldn't really be adding any extra shots to the pool unless no elim D1 AND somehow no NK N1, so losing this N1 really isn't a big deal imo, since it just guarantees that whoever the first player to get eliminated is still gets their ability in the game. Also could be used to verify a character ability claim, but I think that boat has sailed. All in all as Day 1 miselims go mine's pretty safe.

I'll keep working on my detailed ISO list until bed, then when I get up and during my breaks at work tomorrow, assuming I'm still alive. I don't know how helpful this is going to be, though, but I'll keep working on it.

I see.
This does feel like a believable claim.

[MariaR]

Seeking replacement for Junko, since there is so little time on the DL I will add an extra day.

[Ranger]

Guardian Angel is allowed to lie as well.

I'm skeptical of this answer; MariaR clearly wasn't online to give it (had she been, the replacement would've started much sooner), which means FakeGod couldn't have gotten it then. Yet,

I worry that if we follow your plan and have the doctor claim, mafia does not cc and simply just shoots the doc tonight, leaving rest of the power roles vulnerable.

Sorry, make that Cop & Coroner.

If the Doctor claims and does not get CC'd, then the Guardian Angel protects them tonight.

I wasn't aware until now that you were talking about the Coroner, not the Doctor (Guardian Angel).

The role confusion here implies the soonest he could've asked about the GA in relation to his role was 239, when he used his role in 396. When did FG think to ask about the GA specifically?

VT, character is the unnamed Protag (specifically The Player). Ability is Self-Learning, which really just means I'm a universal character ability backup. It's for the first player who dies, so normally the first elim,

but if we go to deadline with a draw

, I'd inherit the skill of the first player to get NK'd instead

.

I'm equally skeptical of this. The Player wasn't listed as an option, and there's an issue with the claim:

Voting and Freezing:

1. During the voting phase you may PM me the name of the person you want frozen, you may change your vote as many times as you like before deadline is hit.
   
2. If you do not vote before the deadline it will be counted as a self-vote.
   
3. A player is frozen when the majority votes are for the same player.
   In the event of a tie you will revote between the given players.

The only way for there to not be an elim D1 is if the player who activated their ability for a normal day phase does so D1. They

did

, but Marashu's claim seems tailored to the current D1, not the D1 we would've had otherwise.

For full disclaimer, I don't really know why scum would lie in these ways, but I still feel my skepticism is worth pointing out.

[Enchant]

I actually agree with Ranger.

This ability main draw was that it forces GA to lie and become "Guilty". But then this flaw just disappeared.

[FakeGod]

You're correct. I did not consult the mod about Guardian Angel interaction.

It was already in my role PM.

[Ranger]

You're correct. I did not consult the mod about Guardian Angel interaction. It was already in my role PM.

Consider my skepticism doubled as your initial claim implies otherwise in the language used. Your language in relation to your role is inconsistent and your earlier stances and wording implied no knowledge about the GA, yet now you're claiming it was there all along.

[shiki]

UNVOTE:

around later

~12 hours

[FakeGod]

Yeah, it looks like I mistook Gnosia/GA as Gnosia/Bug in the role PM when I wrote my posts.

"Bug" actually wasn't in the role PM, but mod told me Bug can lie when I asked her.

She told me the ability was intended to be a traitor hunting tool, so I left it at that.

[Ranger]

MOD MariaR:
Klick, Scoliosis, Elmo TeH AzN, Jessica Rabbit, and narrow parking are

all

in prod range.

With JunkoChan being replaced,

Six slots are absent from the game

;
That leaves only nine votes in play, when it takes eight to push an elimination through.

With it being impossible to get an elimination through without every player present voting

(which includes the scum),

can we have more than just a 24 hour extension for the deadline?

Either a freeze of it or an extension after each slot needing replacement has been filled?

[MariaR]

VC 1.5

Marashu (4): FakeGod, Not Known 15, Enchant, Ranger
Elmo TeH AzN (3): JunkoChan, Ranger, Roden
narrow parking (1): Marashu
Enchant (1): narrow parking
JunkoChan (1): Klick
Not Known 15 (1): Autere
Freedom (1): Scoliosis

Not voting: (4) Jessica Rabbit, Elmo TeH AzN, Freedom, shiki

Mod note: Prods have gone out and until we have at least 10 people active (not counting VLA) DL will be frozen at three days.

With 15 players alive, it takes 8 to fade away

[MariaR]

Herta replaces Scoliosis
Jada replaces Junkochan

[Herta]

UNVOTE:

Obligatory.

[Jada]

UNVOTE:

Obligatory.

What does obligatory mean?

[Not Known 15]

UNVOTE:

Obligatory.

UNVOTE:

Obligatory.

What does obligatory mean?

New people please read the thread asap and produce a readslist.

[Freedom]

UNVOTE:

Obligatory.

Is there something that made you do this?