fair enough, take your time.In post 186, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:I don’t understand the Ythan read at all? Duckling’s opening was underwhelming so eh? Waiting and seeing on Gamma. I would probably tl Ceph if I wasn’t paranoid of the tr, since he couldn’t tell I was town in LOST.
Thought I'd responded to this, sorry.In post 197, Aisa wrote:Gamma is channeling her inner RH9!!
Still looking for a response to this if poss, FleaIn post 184, Aisa wrote:What makes you think he wants to avoid scrutiny?
-- Or here if you just wanna see fae/faer used in context.
In post 196, Flea The Magician wrote:You know I love a good game of screw around and find out.In post 187, furtiveglance wrote:I don't think I'd want to 'avoid finding out Aisa's alignment' even if I was mafia - really unsure of what you're accusing me of with that one.
I don't think interrogating someone in a PT is conducive to reading them for alignment, nor do I have enough of a read on Aisa yet to declare and evidence it for the whole group. I'd say a townlean so far based on them feeling similar to previous games. If that read was more negative then I'd be more worried about my teammate, which seems fairly obvious to me.
If I had to guess, Flea, I'd say you're deliberately making quite dubious statements about me that you don't even believe, in order to try and sort me by my response. I recently read the endgame of Chromavalon, you seemed to think I was obvious by virtue of passivity (and your role). I think you're town for this, but I don't have confidence that you'll read me correctly, since I called you town when I was scum in that game.
Thing here is, you don't mention your partner at all. Nothing, nada, ziltch. But you're happy throwing out reads on most others.
I think I already answered this in that I'm more interested in projecting my scumreads than townreads. My vocal reads have mostly been scumreads, and the townleans I shared (Yume and Nancy) are about at the same level as my townlean on Aisa.
Also this.I think the opposite. I think it's vital to sort your teammate. Thats the person you either need to defend or push hard because of how eliminations work in this setup. PTs I think are vital to helping learn to read a person, guards are usually a little further down, especially given you've entered this as a team.In post 166, furtiveglance wrote:I think focusing on elimination is the most important thing in any game, we can't leave like in a dance game so I don't see why it's particularly important to read your teammate correctly
As I said before, if I start scumreading Aisa, I'll raise the alarm. But so far, I'm not.
Chromavalon was a while ago, and how my brain works has changed a lot since. For one thing that I can have a Bionic Text thing on this makes reading it a hell of a lot easier for me.
Curious how you twist that I don't believe what i'm saying, one of my things for mafia is I do my best to remain as truthful as possible and I mean what I say.
Unsure how you're not seeing the conviction here.
@furtive, this is why correctly reading your teammate ought to be your top priority. Not saying you don’t give equal priority to srs.In post 198, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:+1In post 196, Flea The Magician wrote:You know I love a good game of screw around and find out.In post 187, furtiveglance wrote:I don't think I'd want to 'avoid finding out Aisa's alignment' even if I was mafia - really unsure of what you're accusing me of with that one.
I don't think interrogating someone in a PT is conducive to reading them for alignment, nor do I have enough of a read on Aisa yet to declare and evidence it for the whole group. I'd say a townlean so far based on them feeling similar to previous games. If that read was more negative then I'd be more worried about my teammate, which seems fairly obvious to me.
If I had to guess, Flea, I'd say you're deliberately making quite dubious statements about me that you don't even believe, in order to try and sort me by my response. I recently read the endgame of Chromavalon, you seemed to think I was obvious by virtue of passivity (and your role). I think you're town for this, but I don't have confidence that you'll read me correctly, since I called you town when I was scum in that game.
Thing here is, you don't mention your partner at all. Nothing, nada, ziltch. But you're happy throwing out reads on most others.
Also this.I think the opposite. I think it's vital to sort your teammate. Thats the person you either need to defend or push hard because of how eliminations work in this setup. PTs I think are vital to helping learn to read a person, guards are usually a little further down, especially given you've entered this as a team.In post 166, furtiveglance wrote:I think focusing on elimination is the most important thing in any game, we can't leave like in a dance game so I don't see why it's particularly important to read your teammate correctly
Chromavalon was a while ago, and how my brain works has changed a lot since. For one thing that I can have a Bionic Text thing on this makes reading it a hell of a lot easier for me.
Curious how you twist that I don't believe what i'm saying, one of my things for mafia is I do my best to remain as truthful as possible and I mean what I say.
Unsure how you're not seeing the conviction here.
I 100% agree. Reading your teammate is the most important thing because if you trust your teammate than your hood can be like a masonry but if you don’t, then you’d want to be very careful, like I don’t see how that’s not obvious?
Also, only each teammate has info available to only them because they’re the only ones who can see the pt. Like had I had access to Taly/Bell pt in LOST, I would have 100% wanted Taly to eat rope because they were very scummy in the pt but not really so much in the main thread.
Have you seen Rick and Morty? That remark looks conspicuously like the B-plot to one of the episodes iircIn post 185, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:In post 181, Aisa wrote:In post 171, Flea The Magician wrote:I think it's weak sauce. it's skimmed milk - dyed water.
Ironically comes labelled with red.
Considering our teammates are potentially scum, we need to get the feel on them asap as far as I'm bothered, I promise you Nancy and me will be constantly checking each other.
Treating this as some weird open-hydra thing sets bells off for me. Is your PT active?I agree there's a mechanical reason to prioritise sorting your partner, since challenging a team also impacts your partner. I think having a good read on your partner is one resource and there are paths to winning that don't involve that.In post 172, Flea The Magician wrote:My priority currently is working out Nancys alignment.
If I think she's red, I'll be open about it and encourage challenges on us for it.
If I think she's green, its hydra time.
Is your accusation that furtive is too chill about my alignment or something else?
The PT has 8 posts between me and furtive. I'd call it moderately active, we haven't solved string theory yet, but hey, maybe by the end of the game.@ string theory. If you don’t find extraterrestrial life on Pluto and renaming it’s rightful planet status, we’re yeeting both of your asses.
In post 197, Aisa wrote:Gamma is channeling her inner RH9!!
Still looking for a response to this if poss, FleaIn post 184, Aisa wrote:What makes you think he wants to avoid scrutiny?
No unfortunately I haven’t. I don’t have paid cable. But interesting catch then. Don’t know whether that necessarily means anything AI though.In post 204, Gamma Emerald wrote:Have you seen Rick and Morty? That remark looks conspicuously like the B-plot to one of the episodes iircIn post 185, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:In post 181, Aisa wrote:In post 171, Flea The Magician wrote:I think it's weak sauce. it's skimmed milk - dyed water.
Ironically comes labelled with red.
Considering our teammates are potentially scum, we need to get the feel on them asap as far as I'm bothered, I promise you Nancy and me will be constantly checking each other.
Treating this as some weird open-hydra thing sets bells off for me. Is your PT active?I agree there's a mechanical reason to prioritise sorting your partner, since challenging a team also impacts your partner. I think having a good read on your partner is one resource and there are paths to winning that don't involve that.In post 172, Flea The Magician wrote:My priority currently is working out Nancys alignment.
If I think she's red, I'll be open about it and encourage challenges on us for it.
If I think she's green, its hydra time.
Is your accusation that furtive is too chill about my alignment or something else?
The PT has 8 posts between me and furtive. I'd call it moderately active, we haven't solved string theory yet, but hey, maybe by the end of the game.
Hopefully I can read him. I caught him as obvscum in Pokemon Battles.In post 208, Gamma Emerald wrote:More than most people? it's a pretty common phrase.
Also I have some form of read on everyone except tw rn
Ok - thanks for patiently answering my questions. Here's how I see it.In post 183, Flea The Magician wrote:My accusation is furtive already seems to want to avoid scrutiny and seems to want to avoid finding out your alignment. There's either a mechanical blunder here, or badly disguised intent. I remember him being a little stronger on both sides so I'm going to start throwing accusations and see what sticks for now. ftr The Blue Barracudas have 11 and we're already comparing reads. I've only been active today.
It also sounds like you suspect furtive of keeping his cards close to his chestIn post 201, Flea The Magician wrote:Thought I'd responded to this, sorry.In post 197, Aisa wrote:Gamma is channeling her inner RH9!!
Still looking for a response to this if poss, FleaIn post 184, Aisa wrote:What makes you think he wants to avoid scrutiny?
166 is the main one in thread, combined with seeminly no mention of you at all in game but happily reading out and mentioning others. Feels very much cards close to chest and I don't like it honestly.
I think so, though I guess these kinds of impressions can be pretty evanescent and subjective. I don't think of it as a bad thing at all FWIW!In post 208, Gamma Emerald wrote:More than most people? it's a pretty common phrase.
Also I have some form of read on everyone except tw rn
In post 211, Gamma Emerald wrote:who was he in that one? I was in Pokemon Battles and don't remember him in it
Yeah, did I get the name wrong? I played in 2 Pokemon games, one in Pooky hydra and that other one with Marashu and Auro.In post 212, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think you meant pokemon large theme? I remember he was wooper in that one
As in, I think his behaviour may be simply be the result of having limited time and not valuing sorting his teammate as much as Nancy or Flea do.In post 213, Aisa wrote:Funnily, the word "passive" came to mind before furtive mentioned it. I think "furtive is being a little passive" feels like a more precise read of the situation than "furtive committed a mechanical blunder".
I know but what I was wondering from your post is if I got the game title wrong, although it doesn’t matter since we’re both talking about the same game.In post 216, Gamma Emerald wrote:he was in the marashu + auro hydra one
Any reads so far @duckling?In post 219, the worst wrote:alright here in body today, let's do this.
And with your team. It's possible for both members of the team to be scumbuddies and generally an early tactic is often to not bring any light onto your buddies. The absence of you from his ISO screams louder than anything else there, and it caught my attention.In post 213, Aisa wrote:Ok - thanks for patiently answering my questions. Here's how I see it.In post 183, Flea The Magician wrote:My accusation is furtive already seems to want to avoid scrutiny and seems to want to avoid finding out your alignment. There's either a mechanical blunder here, or badly disguised intent. I remember him being a little stronger on both sides so I'm going to start throwing accusations and see what sticks for now. ftr The Blue Barracudas have 11 and we're already comparing reads. I've only been active today.
I don't think furtive is quite avoiding scrutiny - my impression is that he's pretty null on seeking vs avoiding scrutiny. He isn't exactly running around screaming for people to engage with him, but he answers questions. You could argue he's possibly trying to avoid scrutiny by saying he doesn't have a read on me yet, but I find the way he's talked about it quite natural. In fact, I'm pretty sure I have said something very close to "I don't have a strong read on Player X yet, why would I state a read on them out loud" in a game as Town before.
Funnily, the word "passive" came to mind before furtive mentioned it. I think "furtive is being a little passive" feels like a more precise read of the situation than "furtive committed a mechanical blunder".
It also sounds like you suspect furtive of keeping his cards close to his chestIn post 201, Flea The Magician wrote:Thought I'd responded to this, sorry.In post 197, Aisa wrote:Gamma is channeling her inner RH9!!
Still looking for a response to this if poss, FleaIn post 184, Aisa wrote:What makes you think he wants to avoid scrutiny?
166 is the main one in thread, combined with seeminly no mention of you at all in game but happily reading out and mentioning others. Feels very much cards close to chest and I don't like it honestly.specifically with regards to my slot. In order for this to be scum indicative, IMO, you need to have some theory for what makes scum!furtive specifically want to play his cards close to his chestwith regards to me. Granted, I think there are reasons scum could do this, but I can also think of reasons town would do this.
-- Or here if you just wanna see fae/faer used in context. 