Mini Normal 2285: GM [game over]

[Datisi]

vote count 5.02

with 8 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 5 ends in (expired on 2023-01-09 14:00:00).

yeet

Herta [2]:

skitter30, Firebringer

Val89 [1]:

Val89

Firebringer [1]:

KittyTacky

Ydrasse [1]:

Herta

not voting [3]:

Ydrasse, innocentvillager, MathBlade

mod notes

~ skitter30 v/la fridays/saturdays
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[Val89]

I admit that 80 percent of my townread on FB as of today is because I don't think Math and FB can be scum together, and between the two I think it's Math.

That said, I also think there are reasons FB is town independently. For example, there are bus jobs, and then there is whatever 532 is.

Someone else will have to tell me if that is in Pookies scumrange, but it looks far more likely to be an attempt at removing a town threat in Dann than it does an over-the-top elaborate buddycase - if it an attempt to lay false associations, the job could have been done with far less effort.

[Ydrasse]

pooky vs his chronic inability to not screenshot for his cases while scum
fight fight fight

i think that pooky would be capable of doing that with dann because i think his opinion of dann being able to rebuttal/do good theatre is high enough
i dont think that he'd want to though when he could just shove through a townie/spend his casing energy there

it feels over the top for the sake of it

[Ydrasse]

i thought about the setup some and i think kt is almost always town if the role's real
(setup spec. i know.)
if toto's alive and there's ninjas running loose
kt's role is the way to get a potential inno
my role's the way to get a potential guilty

also beyond that i think his play is fine. i think getting upset someone didnt go with your great plan and then pushing them for it is +town because ive Been There

[Firebringer]

Why you all have urge to come in here and state the obvious that KT is town
This was never in doubt.
Is someone hoping to blend in by giving the non take that KT is town?
No one is pushing KT. Y’all being clowns if ur town doing this

[innocentvillager]

It is necessarily to revisit everyone. I don’t think it was useless at all to reaffirm him as town.

[Firebringer]

its definitely useless in the way majority of u did it. It feels fake from someone acting like "ohh yeah KT def town. I agree heres why i agree". Which i guess is mostly at ydra here because im like "why do u feel need to say this when u can just say 'yeah i agree with others that KT is town'"

Its like over justifying it.

[MathBlade]

Why you all have urge to come in here and state the obvious that KT is town
This was never in doubt.
Is someone hoping to blend in by giving the non take that KT is town?
No one is pushing KT. Y’all being clowns if ur town doing this

To be fair my likely solve is Val + KT/you

I am not actively pushing anywhere because I think scum will have enough rope just to hang themselves

[Firebringer]

i mean i don't think anyone should take ur solves seriously so....if someone is doing it because of you.
That is more alarming than anything to me.

[MathBlade]

And why shouldn’t any solves I do be taken seriously?

[Firebringer]

because ur solving using setup spec.
Thats why i say ur solves shouldn't be taken seriously.

[MathBlade]

because ur solving using setup spec.
Thats why i say ur solves shouldn't be taken seriously.

So you’re ignoring where I have two solves
One based on mech
And one based on play?

[Firebringer]

Theres no convincing u are wrong as long as u stick to this mindset that the game has to be setup in X way.
As long as you stay in that mindset, and you will because thats how ur brain works.
This is how you will see the game and will move in that way.

Therefore anyone trying to convince u, is wasting their time and effort. So if anyone is trying to argue KT is town by play should realize that if they are doing so to convince the only person (you) that KT is town. They aren't really examining that it doesn't actually convince u of anything.

And I don't think ydra did it for ur benefit either.

[Firebringer]

because ur solving using setup spec.
Thats why i say ur solves shouldn't be taken seriously.

So you’re ignoring where I have two solves
One based on mech
And one based on play?

Whats your play based solve then

[MathBlade]

because ur solving using setup spec.
Thats why i say ur solves shouldn't be taken seriously.

So you’re ignoring where I have two solves
One based on mech
And one based on play?

Whats your play based solve then

Val + KT

Val socially reads like a cornered scum who wants a protective gone.
Kitty didn’t know where I would protect so forced a Toto kill

[Firebringer]

are u only reading KT as scum by your theory of night actions.
That sounds like mech based arguments pretending its play.

What about KT actions says he is lying about what he did if ur going to say his day play is a fake

[MathBlade]

Mechanically is Val + you

I think Val is just screwed because Skitter is inno unless Ydrasse/Skitter
Herta is inno based on last attempt to miselim Herta
So Val is the only “VT” left

[Firebringer]

Herta is inno based on last attempt to miselim Herta

How.
This makes no sense to me. Explain it like im 5

[Firebringer]

also that doesn't answer my questions about what about KT play is scummy that you think he is making shit up about his night actions.

[MathBlade]

are u only reading KT as scum by your theory of night actions.
That sounds like mech based arguments pretending its play.

What about KT actions says he is lying about what he did if ur going to say his day play is a fake

KT by day play said there was a guilty on you. But then when asked to explain it’s not one.

It was a day play designed to get a better foot hold than what reality doctates

[MathBlade]

vote count 4.09

with 10 votes in play, it takes 6 to make a decision. day 4 ends in (expired on 2022-12-30 17:30:00).

yeet

Herta [5]:

skitter30, KittyTacky, Firebringer, Val89, Ydrasse

Freedom [2]:

innocentvillager, Herta

Ydrasse [2]:

Toto

, MathBlade

Firebringer [1]:

Freedom

not voting [0]:

mod notes

~ skitter30 v/la fridays/saturdays
~ freedom v/la from 24.12. to 1.1.
~ herta v/la through 31.12.
~ this is a mod note

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I actually don’t have a solve.

Just from my POV Toto myself and IV are all likely town.

Assume 0 scum on the wagon and Herta scum.

This means the only scum would be Freedom.

Ergo if Herta is scum scum are bussing but it’s way more likely that scum dog piled Herta.

Similar to how I didn’t like the earlier elim because the town block wasn’t on it.

Like it stems from here.

If Freedom is scum without Herta then why not have taken the Herta likely miselim
If Freedom is scum with Herta that doesn’t explain any of the weirdness going on. :/

So like I don’t that situation at all so Val to me looks the most sus

…

Look at this VC again.

Freedom = town like I said.

Even if you wish to argue incorrectly I am scum, then unless it’s me and IV staying off wagon which leaves loads more questions than it solves, you’re looking at scum wanting Herta dead.

So a Herta wagon = super bad idea.

Like you’re five again FB.

I swear times like this you feel scum because you either are town not reading or just scum

[Firebringer]

U said KT is scummy by PLAY.
When we say play we mean what he has done and or said during the day, you referred to the night actions.
So I go immediately 'how and what about his claimed actions does this equal scummy' are u saying he tried to move u onto himself to waste ur action? Like is that the scummy part to u? What is it?

[Firebringer]

So herta can't be scum because otherwise scum were bussing herta.
I don't see why scum can't possibly buss herta but fine.

[MathBlade]

U said KT is scummy by PLAY.
When we say play we mean what he has done and or said during the day, you referred to the night actions.
So I go immediately 'how and what about his claimed actions does this equal scummy' are u saying he tried to move u onto himself to waste ur action? Like is that the scummy part to u? What is it?

Faking a guilty is scummy play.

Trying to figure out what I am doing at night is day play.

Like I don’t get your point or question here.

[MathBlade]

So herta can't be scum because otherwise scum were bussing herta.
I don't see why scum can't possibly buss herta but fine.

They wouldn’t gain anything from doing so.

My PoE is all on the wagon so it’s highly unlikely Herta is scum.