Mini 2286: Legends of the Hidden Temple IV (Explorers Win!)

[furtiveglance]

I think Aida’s last burst of activity is a scumtell.
I’ll explain once at my computer.

Alright but this better be good

[Haschel Cedricson]

There has been a challenge! The

Orange Iguanas

have challenged the

Purple Parrots

!

The list of players eligible to be eliminated today consists of

Gamma Emerald
Ythan

furtiveglance
Aisa

With 11 players in the temple, it takes 6 to eliminate.

[Ythan]

Interesting!

[furtiveglance]

Ythan the more words the better.

[Ythan]

Wow you're brilliant. I can catch up when I can catch up nothing about this changes that.

[furtiveglance]

Gonna sleep on this one

[Cephrir]

You know what, it’s Cobra Kai time.

STRIKE HARD
STRIKE FAST
NO MERCY

I challenge the Purple Parrots

Hold up. This challenge makes 0 sense if you TR me, which you're claiming to. Motivation was...pressure on Aisa and Ythan? You know I TR Aisa. I can't see town motivation for doing this Gamma, you need to explain sharpish.

This seems like an overreaction. This isn't survivor or high school, they don't have to like the same people you like

[Cephrir]

I think Aida’s last burst of activity is a scumtell.
I’ll explain once at my computer.

I had a similar feeling

[Gamma Emerald]

here why I wanted to wait to explain the Aisa read: I had a meme in mind.

Basically, when a player pops in like Aisa does and just gives commentary/vomits out reads at the expense of real-time interaction, and immediately dips after doing so, I find that comes from scum more often than not.

[Nancy Drew 39]

What's this? Despite all of your squabbling, you have managed to assemble the Silver Monkey. My loyal

Temple Guard MegAzumarill

has been bested, and you have managed to collect half of a Pendant of Life.



The path to the King's Storeroom is open, but don't get comfortable! You shall advance no further!

Day Two Begins

\0/ Woot! we got one. I was afraid she might flip town, really glad I switched.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I've half a mind to double tap the snakes.

I find it unlikely to be an S/S pair but honestly I can see it being a good plan at this point.

Idk if duckling likes to bus. Based on one experience I had rolling scum with him, he didn’t but until I hear more from him, not ruling that out.

[Nancy Drew 39]

You know what, it’s Cobra Kai time.

STRIKE HARD
STRIKE FAST
NO MERCY

I challenge the Purple Parrots

Hold up. This challenge makes 0 sense if you TR me, which you're claiming to. Motivation was...pressure on Aisa and Ythan? You know I TR Aisa. I can't see town motivation for doing this Gamma, you need to explain sharpish.

This seems like an overreaction. This isn't survivor or high school, they don't have to like the same people you like

Idk if it is but I still think furtive’s town.

[Nancy Drew 39]

here why I wanted to wait to explain the Aisa read: I had a meme in mind.

Basically, when a player pops in like Aisa does and just gives commentary/vomits out reads at the expense of real-time interaction, and immediately dips after doing so, I find that comes from scum more often than not.

What concerned me is that it looked a bit to me like a possible Flea pocket. Because she sr Mastina for sr Flea. Mastina rarely has perfect reads especially early game but why would that make her suss?

Anyway this one I’m going to have to sleep on but the timing of her post also looks suspicious. It looks like she didn’t know Mega was hammered and tried to stop her wagon but don’t know whether that’s ai or not.

In a sidenote, Asia really needs to stop drinking all of those protein shakes.

[Aisa]

I can solve the problem of being accused of not doing any real-time interaction by promising I’ll be around and react in real time around 11pm-12am UTC today. It’s a time when a lot of you are naturally online anyway.

Otherwise I am about to begin my day so can’t address anything else rn

[furtiveglance]

I sleeped but can't decide until others post

[mastina]

Still sick; still need to read properly.

But for notw, notes:

StD/Cephrir: voted the worst initially, then hammered Meg (same order)

furtive: firist Meg vote, fourth vote on the worst, swapped to fourth on Meg

Flea: third vote on Meg when there were four votes on the worst, unvoted when there were six votes


There's not 3 scum in the above, but I bet there's 1-2.
The only world which I see this as possible 0 scum in the bove is if worstie was scum (and even then, it's 0-2).

Scum outside of that group is limited to {the worst, Ythan, Aisa}.

Gamma

could

be scum, I don't think she is tho.


Given these, I think we probably have 3-4 town in the fight right now. Gamma town for making the challenge but I don't want Aisa or Ythan voted out.

furtive isn't someone who I think has the highest odds of being scum, but he's the highest

of the four

, and gives crucial info about the wagon on MegA imo.

VOTE: furtigveglance
(not particularly happy with this selection but again, need to elim someone, he's the least town of the four and most informative imo, but ideally we'd have had Flea or worstie limmed.)

I don't think it matters too terribly much tho because as long as you take it as agiven Yume and Nancy are town (and trust that I am or will be town too), the game's basically autowin because with 3 locktown and only 3 scum with scum being unable to nightkill, we win from poe almost altomatically.

(Also as a reminder if you couldn't tell, still sick.)

[mastina]

to explain my mindset here;

there's 2.5 worlds:
scum-scum were in the arena with wostie-meg;
scum-town were in the arena but scum were demotivated (and inactive);
scim-town were in the arena but scum were demotivated (and active).

It can atauyly be a mixture of multiple worlds. They're not mutually exclusive, they actually build off of each other.

In a world where scum were demotivated and inactive, scum would by necessity be those off the wagon altogether; Aisa, the worst, Ythan. While it's certainly possible for the entirety of the scumteam to be in that grouping, I don't think all three scum were demotivated and inactive. It's 0-3 in here, but my personal belief is 0-1.

In a world where scum had scumscum, they didn't care either way. This makes reading hard, so worstie should be flipped to check this world at some point imo.

In a wolrd where scum were demotivated and yet active, they were likely among the wagons which swapped votes. That's the group with {StD, Cephrir, Flea, furtiveglance}. It's my belief this group is likely to be the case. It's probably not all three, but I'd say 1-2 imo, and not 0.

I probably need to elaborate on these, sorry.

[mastina]

flips as I'd prefer:
furtive (forced from the current group)-->(10 alive, 3 scum worst case)worstie-->(9 alive, 3 scum worst case)flea-->(8 alive, lylo worst case){StD, Cephrir, Aisa}.

In that order, I don't think that there's any world where we end up with 0 scum dead. If furtive isn't, if worstie isn't, if Flea isn't, then there's 3 scum alive. It's not me, Nancy, or Yume which leaves trhee scum for 5 slots, and I townread Gamma/Ythan as the most likely town. Even if 1-2 of Gamma/Ythan are scum via my read being wrong, if we get the 1-2 scum in that group we autowin.

[mastina]

(For the record my current guess is all four combatants town, with scum as being 3 of flea/worstie/StD/Cephrir, but I admit it's possible Aisa is scum there too. I'd prefer furtive over Aisa tho because furtigve gives info about the wagon directlyu, whereas Aisa only gives it indirectly.)

[Cephrir]

I've half a mind to double tap the snakes.

I find it unlikely to be an S/S pair but honestly I can see it being a good plan at this point.

Idk if duckling likes to bus. Based on one experience I had rolling scum with him, he didn’t but until I hear more from him, not ruling that out.

I'm not sure he really did that much that I would characterize as going after meg in any meaningful way

[Cephrir]

Mastina I feel like your analysis right now makes more sense in a void than it does with consideration to how useless meg was. If I were on that scumteam motivation wouldn't be a factor in whether I tried to save that, it wouldn't be worth saving. My only thought would be "how do I look good off this flip, because it's happening no matter what". And I think most players would be thinking the same.

[Cephrir]

Point being, I don't think the situation precludes scum from being motivated, and that doesn't mean they'd be obligated to try for a save. They could also put motivation into power bussing, or perhaps they were motivated to try for a save but didn't get time (e.g. aisa)

[Cephrir]

Gamma, why don't you have a vote down? You wanted to enter the voting phase, no?

[Cephrir]

Point being, I don't think the situation precludes scum from being motivated, and that doesn't mean they'd be obligated to try for a save. They could also put motivation into power bussing, or perhaps they were motivated to try for a save but didn't get time (e.g. aisa)

I would also suggest they could have defended meg in the hopes it would look uninformed, but I don't think anyone really did that, so.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma, why don't you have a vote down? You wanted to enter the voting phase, no?

I wanted to put focus on a couple people but want to try to get some more content before I vote
Aisa would be my vote currently though.