Open 872 | Citadel Conflict | Postgame

[Taly]

And I want

Elements

to post before I

even consider

voting someone who isn't me.

[Herta]

I don't think you should vote anyone but yourself, taly. Ine of ghe other two should be voting you.

[Taly]

I'm pretty bummed. I had the idea that there was some sort of consensus with the Palace's decision and I feel that that's been sucked up by

Rat V Meg

.

[Taly]

That's actually helpful

Herta

, thanks.

[Taly]

Rat

, who should be voted in Palace?

Ironically, probably Nona. I don't think she's faking not understanding things at this point,

and while I would LIKE to trust you... I also trusted Meg and now I'm paranoid I was just completely wrong

This

really

bothers me

Rat

, because the implication is that you think

Meg/I

are S/S and you aren't even discerning our interactions.

Your suspicion of me is understandable but the rationale feels cheap as fuck.

[Doctor Drew]

I’ve done a lot of thinking about this game and dislike that Meg is pushing for Palace to be resolved first. It seems pretty obvious to me that Elements is probably going to flip scum and Meg wants towncred for it. I think RR didn’t seem to have any idea what Elements is because they first didn’t know, then they wanted me to be voted.

My theory is that Meg switched because she was hoping to persuade Bella to vote Rat.

Gth it’s most likely Elements/Farren/Meg for the team. Elements seems almost certain unless I’m wrong on Taly but don’t think I am.

I think Palace is probably a slam dunk anyway, so long as both Taly and me agree to vote for either of us and not Elements, so I want to be weighing in on both the dungeon and court votes. Feel pretty confident Herta’s town in dungeon.

Also Rat seems to be really shocked by the switch and I’m not really getting that from Meg.

So a scum for scum swap between court and palace?

[Taly]

I'm not sold on

Meg

-town but I know my win in Palace is a town win, so

Meg/Herta/Drew

being in favor of that is ultimately pro-town regardless of their alignments.

[Taly]

Mod: When a vote is resolved, are flips showed, and also, are all 3 of those players treestumped or gone?

[Herta]

They can no longer post unless they're the IC.

[Taly]

you know what, im fine with that.

i pulled my weight

[Nona1510]

I'm not sold on

Meg

-town but I know my win in Palace is a town win, so

Meg/Herta/Drew

being in favor of that is ultimately pro-town regardless of their alignments.

I know the same is true for me, so I don’t know why Rat trusting me makes them more likely to be scum? If Elements is scum here, then why is it scum indicative for Rat to prefer me?

Like you’re not taking it into account that either one of us being voted likely brings the exact same outcome. Town won’t lose if I’m voted instead of you, so I guess my point is that since I know I’m town, why does that make you more suspicious of me when it’s probably the exact same outcome?

[Taly]

<br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">I'm not sold on

Meg

-town but I know my win in Palace is a town win, so

Meg/Herta/Drew

being in favor of that is ultimately pro-town regardless of their alignments.<br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">

<br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);"><br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">I know the same is true for me, so I don’t know why Rat trusting me makes them more likely to be scum? If Elements is scum here, then why is it scum indicative for Rat to prefer me? <br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);"><br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">Like you’re not taking it into account that either one of us being voted likely brings the exact same outcome. Town won’t lose if I’m voted instead of you, so I guess my point is that since I know I’m town, why does that make you more suspicious of me when it’s probably the exact same outcome?

It doesn't make me more suspicious of you.

I just know my alignment as fact.

[Nona1510]

you know what, im fine with that.

i pulled my weight

I don’t care which one of us is IC’d but I want my input and I won’t get it if Palace is resolved first, so I think that’s my only issue then. I won’t get to voice my opinions but otherwise I don’t care which of me or Taly gets voted.

[Taly]

that's fair.

[Nona1510]

<br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">I'm not sold on

Meg

-town but I know my win in Palace is a town win, so

Meg/Herta/Drew

being in favor of that is ultimately pro-town regardless of their alignments.<br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">

<br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);"><br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">I know the same is true for me, so I don’t know why Rat trusting me makes them more likely to be scum? If Elements is scum here, then why is it scum indicative for Rat to prefer me? <br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);"><br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">Like you’re not taking it into account that either one of us being voted likely brings the exact same outcome. Town won’t lose if I’m voted instead of you, so I guess my point is that since I know I’m town, why does that make you more suspicious of me when it’s probably the exact same outcome?

It doesn't make me more suspicious of you.

I just know my alignment as fact.

And so do I. But if Palace is resolved first and you’re IC, you still get to give input but I won’t.

[Taly]

idk, maybe its just playstyle

i just think my greenflip is going to be more helpful for town than many more pages of me trying to gamesolve

pedit

wait a minute, there's an IC from Palace?

[Nona1510]

that's fair.

So I’ll agree to vote you if we go last? Does that work for you?

[Taly]

[*]You share a hideout with your comrades located here.
[*]During

Night 1

, with your comrades, you must switch the locations of 2 cadets such that each location contains exactly one

Insurrectionist

.
[*]During

Night 1

, with your comrades, you must also choose one cadet at the

Court

to be confirmed as a

Devotee

.[/list]

fuck i can really do better at reading...

seems like

Bella

is the only IC tho

but from how i see it, our townflips IS an IC in itself, just less powerful.

we give town factual information rather than pages of subjective gamesolve attempts

[Taly]

wait i quoted the wrong bit omg

[Taly]

Here are some additional rules.
During Day 2, all nine cadets still share the thread and submit their votes there.
All 3 activities are played in the same thread but cadets may only vote for their own activity.
After majority is reached in a activity, that activity is immediately resolved, and all cadets involved are flipped.
Once a cadet's activity is resolved, that cadet may no longer post in the thread, with the exception of the cadet who was confirmed to be a Devotee at the Court.

[Taly]

my fear with dragging out the activities or aligning their deadlines together gives scum more ability to coordinate decisions and weakens the nature of town's control on the thread.

but maybe scum isnt that high level this game?

idk, not my style of play.

[Taly]

And even if you're worried

Nona

, we can turn this into a broad game decision.

PALACE
Taly: Taly, Meg*, Herta*, Drew*
Nona: Rat*
Elements:

Everyone can quote their name next to the player that should be voted for, like a VC.

* is implied, not confirmed

[Nona1510]

idk, maybe its just playstyle

i just think my greenflip is going to be more helpful for town than many more pages of me trying to gamesolve

pedit

wait a minute, there's an IC from Palace?

I honestly don’t think it matters because I think it’s probably Elements anyway and I don’t think anyone is expecting anything different. Like it has to be because Elements would have for sure been limmed over both Rat and Bella, so maybe they thought I dunno? But I think if Elements were town, they probably would have been confirmed.

[Taly]

I'm not saying we end Palace RIGHT NOW,

Nona

, but perhaps in a day or two, maximum.

pedit

<br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">idk, maybe its just playstyle<br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);"><br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">i just think my greenflip is going to be more helpful for town than many more pages of me trying to gamesolve<br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);"><br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">pedit<br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);"><br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">wait a minute, there's an IC from Palace?<br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">

<br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);"><br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">I honestly don’t think it matters because I think it’s probably Elements anyway and I don’t think anyone is expecting anything different. Like it has to be because Elements would have for sure been limmed over both Rat and Bella, so maybe they thought I dunno? But I think if Elements were town, they probably would have been confirmed.

What do you want to do before flipping?

[Nona1510]

Here are some additional rules.
During Day 2, all nine cadets still share the thread and submit their votes there.
All 3 activities are played in the same thread but cadets may only vote for their own activity.
After majority is reached in a activity, that activity is immediately resolved, and all cadets involved are flipped.
Once a cadet's activity is resolved, that cadet may no longer post in the thread, with the exception of the cadet who was confirmed to be a Devotee at the Court.

That’s what I’m saying, once I vote you I can no longer post and I want to have a say in both court and dungeon.