Hollow Knight Mafia [game over]

[petapan]

also i reread aristeia's iso last night and she's 90% mafia

i think the hyperfocus on cakez is a cover for a lack of solving at this point

i didn't say it yesterday but i

did

think it was possible a scum-ari tries to overtly bury sircakez for sussing her. i thought the victim complex was towny at first but it really struggles to remain crdible

i think she would be a more likely to get kinda stuck on her current approach as town. i don't think her current play is really getting her anywhere and is most likely to result in people scumreading her (and i think she'd know this). but i can believe that it's something she as town would care about

her solving in the second half of d1 felt really towny to me, so if she's scum it's not like she isn't capable of producing good content. i don't think she needs to hide behind a demand for cakez to claim

i don't think her play is resulting in many scumreads at all except for me, in fact she's getting townread for it

i think her current play lines up pretty directly with a scum agenda of realizing the elimination pool is pretty limited and she kind of has to hyperfocus on cakez now before he has a chance to get cleared

[Aristeia]

it's amusing you think scum!me wouldn't have just murdered Cakes yesterday instead of voting for Dan but ok.

[petapan]

i think you tried and failed

[SirCakez]

I don't want to claim in the thread leave me alone Klick can verify everything you want

[Aristeia]

there is no reason for you to keep your role hidden

[Aristeia]

can you just claim so I can move on to other things if I think it makes sense

[Aristeia]

like there's no way your role is so super important that it's crucial to keep it hidden because just yesterday you were like "just flip me this slot is doomed" when you were at like e-2 or e-3 instead of claiming so i dunno what the hangup is here.

[SirCakez]

I don't want to claim in the thread leave me alone Klick can verify everything you want

I don't want to claim in the thread leave me alone Klick can verify everything you want

I don't want to claim in the thread leave me alone Klick can verify everything you want

I don't want to claim in the thread leave me alone Klick can verify everything you want

I don't want to claim in the thread leave me alone Klick can verify everything you want

[SirCakez]

I don't understand why people are so obsessed with me this game
Like I already got upset day 1 because people wouldn't leave me alone do we really need to go down this path again? God

[Aristeia]

you can simply claim your role

[petapan]

I don't understand why people are so obsessed with me this game
Like I already got upset day 1 because people wouldn't leave me alone do we really need to go down this path again? God

cakez you have my permission to ignore ari, just talk about other people

[Firebringer]

stop being rude to Ari

[petapan]

Spoiler:

Aristeia wrote: ↑Sat Feb 04, 2023 9:46 am

Alisae wrote: ↑Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:13 am

Aristeia wrote: ↑Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:28 am

Alisae wrote: ↑Sat Feb 04, 2023 4:52 am

Something I would like Ari to elaborate on when she gets the chance is why she feels the way she feels about Peta.

While looking back on my notes it kind of just dawned on me the best way to REALLY elaborate what I see with peta. I don't wolf!Peta engages with the thread the way he has so far. Maybe it's crazy of me to get this impression from his first 2 rvs votes as well as 151, but I feel like isolations 5-9 have only helped reinforce this vibe I am getting.



the way i read peta is to look for things he does as town exclusively.

i dont really expect him to be readable this early in the game and i have a lot of respect for him as a player.

ig my follow-up question would be do you really think he hasn't done anything he wouldn't be able to do exclusively as villager?



He hasn't done anything he can't do as mafia, also i don't really think he's had the oppurtunity either.

your read is based on your mental model of how scum!peta would interact with the thread and i find expectations of behavior to not be the best for making accurate reads.

This post is really interesting to me considering Aris later stance on me and how she was expecting me to interact with the thread and fireisred. Hypocrisy isn't the unique purview of scum but I don't like how she's shifting what she says she believes to be the correct way to read people when she's talking about peta vs. when shes talking about me. If either of them either flips red this has high partner equity.

forgive the butchered quotes but i didn't want to do surgery on the massive text block on the main post

were you trying to suggest i'm potentially scum with ari because...she made a post saying i hadn't done anything i wouldn't do as scum?

[petapan]

stop being rude to Ari

i see basically no reason she should get her way to have cakez fullclaim in thread, and also i think cakez arguing against it endlessly is unproductive and would prefer he instead discussed his reads on other people

[Firebringer]

let her do her interrogation and cakez can respond how he wants. i don't see why cakez claiming or not claiming should matter if everyone agrees cakez role is worthless to begin with.

like what do u think scum ari gets out of this? U think she doubts cakez role is useless? Where do u think she is going with this information? Piece together rest of setup. I see no reason why u gotta interfere other than being rude

[Aristeia]

stop being rude to Ari

i see basically no reason she should get her way to have cakez fullclaim in thread, and also i think cakez arguing against it endlessly is unproductive and would prefer he instead discussed his reads on other people

i also do not want cakez to endlessly argue against it

i want him to claim so i can move on from this line of thought if it checks out

i have done literally nothing to prevent him from discussing his reads on other people. i would love for him to discuss reads.

[Aristeia]

the only world where cakez ate yesterday makes sense as coming from town is if cakez believes his role is worthless.

if thats the case there is literally no reason for him to not just claim so we can move on.

[redFF]

the only world where cakez ate yesterday makes sense as coming from town is if cakez believes his role is worthless.

if thats the case there is literally no reason for him to not just claim so we can move on.

i don't think this is as set in stone as you're making it seem. (his role being useless)

he could have just been really really mad and role power level didn't play into it

[SirCakez]

What reads do people want me to talk about?

[Aristeia]

cakez this is your last chance to claim

[furtiveglance]

Aristeia's next post:

daykill SirCakez

lol

[Aristeia]

lol

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I kinda want to run a lawnmower through all the universal scum reads and maybeeee like one scum would be left lol

Who are these universal scum reads?

[petapan]

What reads do people want me to talk about?

any/all? why do you, personally, scumread asri?

[furtiveglance]

I kinda want to run a lawnmower through all the universal scum reads and maybeeee like one scum would be left lol

Who are these universal scum reads?

Himself, Asri, red, Gimli I think