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Post Post #1800 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2023 5:31 am

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In post 1798, Kokichi Oma wrote: So scum both scum factions have 0 way to kill every night? Does this even sound right?
1 - hail is practically OP that role must be nerfed. town is lucky to have it
2 - arsonists are the worst type of group scum. again luck with town scum are that type
3 - pirates are not scum. for the twentieth time, pirates can only win by leaving game early or town siding in end game. They are even more town sided than a natural survivor as they have to find at least one scum and vanalize them and can't win in end game with scum victory (had to leave game before scum wins)
4 - This game is by no means balanced as everything about roles and alignments are random so there is nothing worthwhile to spec here.
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Post Post #1801 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:24 am

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In post 1745, Marashu wrote: Right now if I had to guess, I'd say Drew's partner was Aisa.

I also just noticed that Aisa was the first one to push the 'N_M might have been meta janitor' narrative at gamestart.
In post 1748, Kokichi Oma wrote: I can't believe Herta was actually just a Miller. And I agree Aisa is probably just last partner. Do Pirates just lose then?
In post 1768, Gimli wrote: it's just aisa isn't it, I don't even see a third arson in this game
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Post Post #1802 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:38 am

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if pirates care for the mechanical win let's go on with finishing the massclaims already

aisa just outed herself so let's get this done with
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Post Post #1803 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:38 am

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VOTE: no elim
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Post Post #1804 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:39 am

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Anyway, I'm really sorry that we've had a misvig. I felt like it was either me or someone whose alignment wasn't confirmed to me. Good job those of you who had Drew down (...everyone except me?). I do wish I had been around a bit more yesterday and got the chance to really sort Drew properly given that clearly I didn't do an amazing job, and to make people feel better about me. I'll try more today.
In post 1776, Enchant wrote: I agree with Kyoko here tbh.
I'm sorry, what is there to agree with exactly? I feel like the word "agree" only makes sense if you're talking to someone of your own alignment. Kyoko is a pirate and will naturally advocate for whatever is best for her, which may sometimes incidentally happen to align town interests sometimes.
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Post Post #1805 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:40 am

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In post 1802, Gimli wrote: if pirates care for the mechanical win let's go on with finishing the massclaims already

aisa just outed herself so let's get this done with
Hey! That's not what I'm saying :c
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Post Post #1806 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:46 am

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In post 1797, Marashu wrote: I kinda don't want Fuyu or Gimli plundered N3; they both have abilities that send messages to their recipients, so if they use those abilities then they aren't dousing.
I’ve already said my target receives no notice if my visiting them.
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Post Post #1807 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:47 am

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That was why I freaked out so bad at Kyoko D2.
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Post Post #1808 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:48 am

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In post 1806, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu wrote:
In post 1797, Marashu wrote: I kinda don't want Fuyu or Gimli plundered N3; they both have abilities that send messages to their recipients, so if they use those abilities then they aren't dousing.
I’ve already said my target receives no notice if my visiting them.
they don't know what they can't post?
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Post Post #1809 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:50 am

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In post 1800, Kyoko Kirigiri wrote:
In post 1798, Kokichi Oma wrote: So scum both scum factions have 0 way to kill every night? Does this even sound right?
1 - hail is practically OP that role must be nerfed. town is lucky to have it
2 - arsonists are the worst type of group scum. again luck with town scum are that type
3 - pirates are not scum. for the twentieth time, pirates can only win by leaving game early or town siding in end game. They are even more town sided than a natural survivor as they have to find at least one scum and vanalize them and can't win in end game with scum victory (had to leave game before scum wins)
4 - This game is by no means balanced as everything about roles and alignments are random so there is nothing worthwhile to spec here.
It took me forever to figure out how you were forced to townside but I get it now. Town wins when all anti-towns are dead but true groupscum only has to outnumber town. So Pirates can win by only town being alive but not by groupscum endgaming.
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Post Post #1810 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:57 am

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In post 1808, Gimli wrote:
In post 1806, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu wrote:
In post 1797, Marashu wrote: I kinda don't want Fuyu or Gimli plundered N3; they both have abilities that send messages to their recipients, so if they use those abilities then they aren't dousing.
I’ve already said my target receives no notice if my visiting them.
they don't know what they can't post?
Yup. That’s why I thought it might be more sporting to claim on Day 1.
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Post Post #1811 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:58 am

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that's a dayvig

what a crazy game lol
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Post Post #1812 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:59 am

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Summary of mechanical information so far:


Claims:

TemporalLich
Pick: Meta-Neighbour
Discard: Extension

Kyoko Kirigiri
Pick: Modified Friendly Neighbour
Discard: Vanilla

Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu
Pick: Witch
Discard: Vanilla

Enchant
Discard: Untopped Post Restrictor

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Pick: Security Guard

Gimli
Pick: Mysterious Musician

Marashu
Pick: Cloud Seeder

KittyTacky
Pick: Inverse Killer

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TemporalLich - Town Meta-Neighbor --- Discard: Extension
Yume - Town [One-Shot Meticulous] Tracker
Doctor Drew - Arsonist Cartel Multitargeting Meta-Janitor Meta-Neighbor
Herta - Town Universal Miller (Must Pick card)
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Post Post #1813 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2023 12:23 pm

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We also know what N_M's discard is
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Post Post #1814 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2023 12:27 pm

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In post 1810, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu wrote:
In post 1808, Gimli wrote:
In post 1806, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu wrote:
In post 1797, Marashu wrote: I kinda don't want Fuyu or Gimli plundered N3; they both have abilities that send messages to their recipients, so if they use those abilities then they aren't dousing.
I’ve already said my target receives no notice if my visiting them.
they don't know what they can't post?
Yup. That’s why I thought it might be more sporting to claim on Day 1.
Oh wow. I completely misunderstood this.
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Post Post #1815 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2023 12:30 pm

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True

Summary of mechanical information so far:


Claims:

Kyoko Kirigiri
Pick: Modified Friendly Neighbour
Discard: Vanilla

Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu
Pick: Witch
Discard: Vanilla

Enchant
Discard: Untopped Post Restrictor

Aisa
Pick: Security Guard

Gimli
Pick: Mysterious Musician

Marashu
Pick: Cloud Seeder

KittyTacky
Pick: Inverse Killer

Not_Mafia
Discard: Neighbor

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TemporalLich - Town Meta-Neighbor --- Discard: Extension
Yume - Town [One-Shot Meticulous] Tracker
Doctor Drew - Arsonist Cartel Multitargeting Meta-Janitor Meta-Neighbor
Herta - Town Universal Miller (Must Pick card)
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Post Post #1816 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2023 12:35 pm

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Why exactly do we wanna massclaim again?

Maybe the individual players who have not yet massclaimed are in a better position to evaluate whether claiming will be useful? Catching a scum off a bad claim seems like a very remote possibility.
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Post Post #1817 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2023 12:59 pm

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I was more interested in massclaiming so we could coordinate around the more investigative weathers. If we're doing no elim, then Aisa's role might be more useful without? I dunno, I haven't fully thought that one through yet. A delayed faction kill makes the risk against stronger roles lower, I guess.
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Post Post #1818 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2023 2:14 pm

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In post 1812, Aisa wrote:
Summary of mechanical information so far:


Claims:

TemporalLich
Pick: Meta-Neighbour
Discard: Extension

Kyoko Kirigiri
Pick: Modified Friendly Neighbour
Discard: Vanilla

Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu
Pick: Witch
Discard: Vanilla

Enchant
Discard: Untopped Post Restrictor

Aisa
Pick: Security Guard

Gimli
Pick: Mysterious Musician

Marashu
Pick: Cloud Seeder

KittyTacky
Pick: Inverse Killer

Flips:

TemporalLich - Town Meta-Neighbor --- Discard: Extension
Yume - Town [One-Shot Meticulous] Tracker
Doctor Drew - Arsonist Cartel Multitargeting Meta-Janitor Meta-Neighbor
Herta - Town Universal Miller (Must Pick card)
Wow, I catch a scum and I'm still chopped liver
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #1819 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2023 2:34 pm

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I'm fine with no elim today. I think it's okay to give pirates a chance to win since they helped us.

VOTE: no elim
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #1820 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2023 2:37 pm

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I asked the mod a question about some interactions; I'm waiting until I hear back before voting.
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Post Post #1821 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2023 2:42 pm

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Doesn't work the way I was hoping. Unfortunate.

VOTE: No Elim

If somehow this gets rushed through overnight, ideal world I'd like Aisa to claim target first, then that target claim any results.
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Post Post #1822 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2023 2:43 pm

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Post Post #1823 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2023 2:43 pm

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Post Post #1824 (ISO) » Thu Feb 16, 2023 2:44 pm

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