Micro 1070 | a micro normal | Endgame

[Alianna]

Votecount

VC 2-III

mykonian (3 = E-1):

, Aristeia, Alisae, Gimli

Enchant (1):

Klick

Alisae (1):

Enchant

Not Voting (2):

Aureal, mykonian

With 7 alive, it takes 4 for an execution.

Deadline:

(expired on 2023-03-03 12:03:00)

Co-mod notes:

• I'm counting by hand, let me know if there's anything wrong.
  
• The combined mod ISO can be found here.

[Alisae]

Game is confirmed 7-2

[Enchant]

Unvote please if hammer didn't happen.

[mykonian]

it wasn't a hammer, he was on me before.

[mykonian]

Game is confirmed 7-2

Well if I fake my claim you never know (muahahaha >.>)

[Gimli]

UNVOTE:

Ok enchant work your magic

[Alisae]

Doubt there is a hammer

[mykonian]

Well at the very least, could you have the others speak today. Might as well give Enchant some time to actually get up to speed with the game as well, we aren't necessarily in a rush.

[Alisae]

I’m going to bedge

[Alisae]

If thread were to be locked and day is over I would not at all be sad about it.

[Enchant]

I am discussing.

[Alisae]

While I was asleep*
Gnight

[mykonian]

goodnight, see you tomorrow

[Aristeia]

why did you use security guard on me instead of using like reporter on someone ?

like if you use reporter on a VT and someone dies, then you know the VT is confirmed inno to you.

security guard literally doesnt do anything?

[mykonian]

It specifies that it doesn't check for the nightkill of scum (paraphrasing makes the wording weird, but I imagine this is the "normal" reporter role). So I'm only checking whether someone is a PR or not.

With the starting setup being 3 fruit vendor/messenger JoaT's, my role, and I thought we'd be on the weak side as town then, I felt I could guess what the answer was going to be. "Yes this person is a PR". Didn't appeal to me.

So I put the reporter on the person who was most in the spotlight. Didn't think there would be a doctor with my role in there, so I just hoped someone earlier on the wagon was going to take the shot.

[Aristeia]

Um the normal reporter does check for nightkills

[mykonian]

yes. Good point.

So if it were a personal reporter (reading is key, apologies), does that do the trick for you.

[Aristeia]

ok i guess that makes sense

who do you think the last werewolf is then?

[Klick]

I could have been a lazy psychologist,

which I would only be allowed to use if there was more than one antitown player left.

I asked if I could, I could not use that, so for what it's worth in a 9p game, we are looking for one scum.

I can check on my own in a bit but can someone confirm if this is a type of role that's allowed in Normals in any way?

[mykonian]

I think that in most of Gimli's interactions with Ari, he does not appear to be talking in a way that makes sense to be a townie talking to their top scum read [who they think is currently pushing you in bad faith.]

He looks like he is talking to a townie that he is trying to get to re-evaluate him (especially early on) / discredit her read if she doesn't (more of this later on).

Once I made it clear that I did not wish to interact with him on my scum read on him (largely because I find that to be a fruitless endeavor for both parties, and one of the worst ways to get a genuine re-evaluation of a scum read) I am now being described as tunneled to discredit my read as well.

I feel like a lot of this is echoing the way you were seeing me as well, would that be a reasonable assessment?

Anyway, I'm not sold on Gimli yet but I am trusting Klick and obviously we need to figure out Andante so I will VOTE: Andante here. I don't understand this slot at all- can anyone with meta on her explain how the heck someone who apparently thinks that reading 90% of the game is optional can manage to play this game?

Pedit: hi Andante, feel free to answer that question for yourself too please

Well I see I am definitely in a game full of people who have much more confidence in themselves than I understand. As usual. @_@

So I'd be harping on a little, but this was the weakest vote on the wagon in terms of the posts itself. First post is a pressure post. Last post is a "oh shit this is actually happening". Now it was properly fast, so I could see the latter from town as well. If I was to go to the final day with Aureal I wouldn't instantly vote. I'd have a long hard look at the other person. Some guesswork, this is the person Andante is omgussing at the final moments. And here I'm not certain but I could see that two ways. One, Andante is annoyed with their buddy and wants to play some long game where they distance. Two, Andante is annoyed and energized and finds something to pick on in one of the silly townies votes and this was clearly the weakest also from that perspective, it's the easy target. She is with Gimli one of the two people who would benefit most from Waveform dying.


Unless Klick was there. Usually if you have a bit of a stronger player make it later, it becomes suspicious, but he engineers that wagon. Gimli follows him easily (which can be a buddying attempt (towards klick) gone wrong). His reasons are sound, he's the main push. This would've been a bussing attempt out of thin air, I don't think that's the case. Gimli flitting about with his votes (and not sticking on you) feels properly town. As scum he could've hang around on you, it was a wagon that could've gone somewhere. As scum, I could see him being asked by Klick and thinking this is a good moment to get some distance with Andante and then watch the implosion happen.

And Lisa is very right. The moment masons get claimed and he's like "what, masons too? I have to shoot through 2 more confirmed townies? This Waveform kill has backfired" would be the moment where he slipped in a way.

VOTE: andante
There lasts posts were ??????
They can claim

If I'm being suspicious, this is out of tune. Lisa waaaaaaaited so long. And waited. I begged for what it felt pages to get them on honestly (and you can disagree) the best wagon, the best case. To be the 4th vote (but Herta/Gimli was on there). And that really didn't feel comfortable.

This happens in an instance, there's conviction, and it's not after asking a couple more questions, no, it's post->response. If this is Lisa scum, someone is scared they are going to miss the boat, they want to take some control of the situation (Andante isn't, maybe a good fakeclaim as a focus can get them out of it, and it's a flash wagon in the middle of day one, what are the odds someone hammers?).

Lastly, this is just me, but it took me at least ages to figure out we were not playing against mafia, but werewolves. Lisa kept insisting on wolf as the word for the baddies from the start. Are all games with werewolves now? And there's the 3-4 pages of massclaim stuff. But then, given one flipped, I'd put the odds that Lisa might be a town one? Then again, then there is a LOT of circumstantial information (all the fruit does add up) in this town, there has to be some place where it can be confused.


I think on balance if I got there tomorrow, I would give the impression I was always going to vote Aureal and getting a better look in on Gimli mostly. I don't think on balance the case on Lisa amounts to that much, it's just these tiny little things and there are positives there too.

[Klick]

Enchant is also a mason

Looool
UNVOTE:

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