Mini 2287: AB:LoAF (Postgame)

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

Oh lol, for some reason I thought that was KT who posted that.

Was confused for a bit.

But, theoretically, can you win if NM is killed? Or vice versa?

well it reduces my chances for sure but yes theoretically I can win if no one kills me till I'm done checking all alignments or if check town and town wins

it won't do anything for town or scum if he is dead though

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

What about NM 'guilty' on me? How should that be trusted as helping town?

I know we don't use the L word anymore, but what do they say about liars?

I guess in NM’s case I’m more accommodating towards just policy yeeting/shooting him but “kill every 3p ever always” is kinda a rude mindset and will make 3ps that could townside not do so just because siding with town will just get them murdered without exception.

There's respectable reason why 3p even if townsided are frowned upon and are executed.

let me have this saved for when you flip 3p

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

dont forget vandalized

I know right. Its so hilarious and sad at the same time ...

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

@mod where you are can we have a vc if no hammer has happened?

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

Was there hail last night?

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

if you kill all arsonists today will the game end? or will we have a chance to plunder someone before it ends?

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

also hail stops arsonists right? so no one was doused so far

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

that being said, since no one is dying by the scum faction tonight (beside maybe by a vig shot) I want to kindly request to no eim today, so we can plunder a town player and win with you all

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

actually, I don't know. I want to have somehow a chance to plunder a town please

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

I would like to start this day off by saying: what the fuck was that fakeclaim by Drew?

he wanted to act as if there are no more vigs to make town not hail/control vig so they could arson.

which makes me think kitty is also town.

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

I think robbing Kitty is play.

But I really want to 100% hit a town for this plunder. I was thinking gimli since his fruit vendor claim thing in d1.

also marashu since the shots are done already not a bad choice

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

so I can win with the town when all arsonists die... so far game nights were in hail and we didn't plunder anyone.

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

anyways

if there is only 1 arsonist left in game, there is chance you can end it today without us having a chance to plunder

right?

so since even if there are 2 arsonists left in game, if you no elim today they can't kill anyone tonight I was hoping if you would no elim today to keep game in 5 v 2 v 2 so we would have a chance to plunder the town. if there is only 1 arsonist left you have multiple phases till they have any chance to win and can afford the no elim today too.

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

if its 2 arsonists and you miselim today then it will be 4 v 2 v 2 (with 1 doused tomorrow) and things will look worse for town actually so I really think even for town no elim is better play?

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

I think robbing Kitty is play.

But I really want to 100% hit a town for this plunder. I was thinking gimli since his fruit vendor claim thing in d1.

also marashu since the shots are done already not a bad choice

I promise you I'm town even though I defended the wolves of my POE, you can steal from me 100%

but I'm not sure no killing is a good thing, kyoko. for one thing we can't coordinate with NM cause he is super unreliable, so your parity cop won't solve the game. if you can somehow force NM to target aisa while you target me we could probably do it? but then just flipping aisa is better fmpov

well its a factional skill, so I have a say in what we're targeting and he is cooperative with me. He was going to try and plunder you last night if there was no hail.

the thing is if there is only 1 arsonist left and you elim it today, we loose.

also if you miselim and there are 2 arsonists left then you'll be at 4 2 2 tomorrow. which is a bad situation for town.

Also logically the easiest way we can win is if we plunder town (have a night phase) and have all arsonists dead. then when game ends with only pirates and town, we leave the game and both us and town wins the game.

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

let me rephrase

the main group scum are arsonists and no one is doused so far cause of hail. That means town will definitely have another day phase if you don't elim today. number is 5 2 2 if there were 3 arsonists originally so why not give it a night phase to actions to go through. Maybe you learn something that helps you find arsonists instead of risking to loose majority today.

also at same time we pirates need 1 night to be able to plunder town to be able to end game with town cause of two back-to-back hails. This means if there is only 1 arsonist left (if they started with only 2 arsonists) and you get to them today, we'll loose and only town wins.

this is why I think we all need to go for no elim today but as you see its kinda more important for us pirates than you town, so I'll be sad if you guys don't agree but can't be mad at you for it

pedit: we have no one plundered yet cause 2 hails. We need to plunder 1 town at the very least to be able to end game with town

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

if we have 2 night phases, we'll try to find an arsonist on that night, but us plundering town is priority. otherwise if you kill every arson in game we just loose

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

Isn't he out of shots?

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

OK the main question is... how did NM get past hail????

How did they indeed

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

So scum both scum factions have 0 way to kill every night? Does this even sound right?

1 - hail is practically OP that role must be nerfed. town is lucky to have it
2 - arsonists are the worst type of group scum. again luck with town scum are that type
3 - pirates are not scum. for the twentieth time, pirates can only win by leaving game early or town siding in end game. They are even more town sided than a natural survivor as they have to find at least one scum and vanalize them and can't win in end game with scum victory (had to leave game before scum wins)
4 - This game is by no means balanced as everything about roles and alignments are random so there is nothing worthwhile to spec here.

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

So scum both scum factions have 0 way to kill every night? Does this even sound right?

1 - hail is practically OP that role must be nerfed. town is lucky to have it
2 - arsonists are the worst type of group scum. again luck with town scum are that type
3 - pirates are not scum. for the twentieth time, pirates can only win by leaving game early or town siding in end game. They are even more town sided than a natural survivor as they have to find at least one scum and vanalize them and can't win in end game with scum victory (had to leave game before scum wins)
4 - This game is by no means balanced as everything about roles and alignments are random so there is nothing worthwhile to spec here.

It took me forever to figure out how you were forced to townside but I get it now. Town wins when all anti-towns are dead but true groupscum only has to outnumber town. So Pirates can win by only town being alive but not by groupscum endgaming.

Yeappp! Finally someone else see it

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

@Pirates, I've been assuming all game that groupscum are not multitasking. Can you confirm whether or not that's true?

you mean as we cant use our role and factional skill at same time or can we?

I need to ask mod for clarification since we've been in hail so far and I'm not sure

but I was under assumption that we can use both factional and personal skills at same time

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

soooo

are you guys ready to end day?

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

Yep, I'm ready. Aisa Security someone. Pirates did you say who you are visiting?

I personally want to visit someone in gimli marushu

we intend to plunder a town as stated before

gotta see what nm thinks and we'll target the safest top town read we have

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

alrighty good luck everyone

VOTE: No Elimination

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

well we can confirm that Marashu is a cloud seeder

also kokichi should have something to say about me

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

was a cloud seeder is a better way to put it

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

not that it needed coinfirmation anyway

but now pirates should be able to win with town at anytime you wanna end the game. so lets go

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

im going to bed this can wait for tomorrow c u o/

pedit: yes they can

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

factional skill and personal roles can be used at same time. We confirm

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

no one else targeted me last night btw, only aisa. I received the confirmation of that via PM.

yea I was debating between you and mara for plundering a town and went with mara cause was sure arsonists wouldn't claim that role and go hail their douses for 2 night straight, and we really needed to 100% hit a town to be able to win with town so went with mara

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

now good night

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

prododge

long day cant spend time on game tonight

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

well we really wanted to rob a town and mura was 100% town so we went with them. Not gonna try enchant cause I town read them.

now we really gotta try and find arsons for both us and town (cause it be parity cop)

I think the next person I target is gonna be in KT, kokichi, fuyuhiko if aisa is elim today but haven't decided who I scumread the most.

if you give me like 24 hour to read game again I'll try and sort my thoughts. I'm super exhausted as I had another 1 very long day out

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

Also, last question before my big reveal on how i solved this game. Kirigiri, you confirm that N_M is your partner right. Not anyone else?

yes NM is the other pirate. we're only 2

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

welcome to game furtiveglance

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

To scumside, they need to target only scum and no town.

its actually wrong. if we only target scum and no town, we loose on scum endgame, cause there will also be town left in end game (they don't need all town to die)

that is why its not possible for pirates to scum side for end game. best we can do to scum side is if if we manage to target both factions and actually leave the game before end game (which is not a scum side)

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

which is why we have to target a town and then start searching for scum. we either leave game earlier with a victory and give extra info to town vanalizing a scum
or we target a town and endgame with rest of town by eliminating all scum.

there is no other way

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

Okay. Time to say my role.

Harbinger of the Dreaming God

You know you have the following one-shot abilities to use at night, you know how many targets each has, but not what each one does.

Death
Famine
Pestilence
War

I softed it here

okay.

I'm a town mysterious musician. I target a player with a song and they feel an energy. IDK how that messes with other roles or if I'm giving scum a redirector to a nuclear bomb or something, but my role doesn't say what it does really. it's mysterious.

The mysterious roles are always the best

I had no idea what my role was gonna do. Death seem like it could be a vig? But, was not willing to risk it. I chose War last night and picked Fuyu/KT as it was the only shot that allowed me to pick 2 targets. I picked them since they both had a killing role. I thought it could maybe give them a shot or something. Turns out I got a message last nite that said KT/Fuyu are at war and are different alignments. How interesting. Which is why I asked if they got any messagee last nite.

HAHA that's a hard guilty

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

i meant arson* sorry these names are confusing. Used to there just being one scum. And yeah.

Flip in KT/Furt and piratee plund Aisa

why should we plunder out of your guilty

if the today elim is wrong we should target the other guilty to target scum?

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

so if kt flips arosn we probably winning game

if kt is not arson, the furtive is the remaining one.

or you think there was 3 of them?

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

so I see basically 3 possibilities:

KT is arson
Furitive is arson
kokischi is aroson and he fake claimed to set two mis elims/mis guiding up for his own win

why would you guys want us to target aisa here?

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

why should we plunder out of your guilty

For the same reason we went for No Elim D3. But this is also why I think order matters.

In all honesty, I think Pirates will be winning this game either way.

not if scum end game without us leaving the game.

we want to find scum for same reason you do.

I'm just not sure why targeting aisa is a good play at all here

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

here is what I think we should do:

so if we flip KT today and they end town, we will target furitive, if furitive is by any chance is town he must day vig kokichi (cause they are clearly arson) and everyone knows it as we won't leave tomorrow.
if we flip furitive today and they end town, we will target KT; if we don't leave game then KT is town and kokichi is scum and everyone will know it tomorrow as we wont leave game

Now if who we kill today end up arson, we will target aisa, as whoever is remaining of furtive/kt and kokichi are almost definitely towns in that scenario

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

Let me rephrase it for easier understanding:

1 - we will flip KT or Furitive

Scenario A: They flip as town

2 - remaining of KT/Furitive should try to kill kokichi as they know kokichi lied if they are also town
3 - Pirates target the remaining of furitive/KT
4 - If pirates leave game, the remaining of furitive/KT is arson. If pirates stay in game Kokichi is arson

Scenario B: They flip as scum

2 - Pirates target Aisa
3 - if pirates leave game Aisa is Arson, if pirates don't leave game Aisa is town. In this scenario kokichi and the remaining of Furitive/KT is also town

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

No, because in the event that there is more than one Arson left, then we as town are in a bad spot. We assisted you before, so we would appreciate you working with us too. Regardless you should target Aisa. We need to know for sure if Aisa is scum or not. Regardless we all win if you target Aisa

there is 100% a scum between KT, furitive, you

how is us targeting aisa the better player here for either us or town if today elim is not scum?

pedit: if town fails to kill arson today and tomorrow, town is loosing majority to arsonists. the info you provided is very helpful for it but we can make sure you 100% get the scum right at next day max. I really think the plan of action I posted is the best for everyone

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

Aisa is easy mislim if she's town. In the event that she's town and one of Enchant or Gimli is the scum then we are in a very bad spot.

and if today an arson dies, they are definitely next in poe to be checked and pirates will target them.

but if we kill KT this day phase and their not the scum, the arson will be definitely between you or furitive. Why would we be targeting aisa then?

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

I'm not fighting anything what I posted is best plan of action for both town and pirates.

maybe not for you in specific since you know your own alignment but you were always part of my own PoE list for being a scum.

so why should I trust you and completely focus out of this trio that will sure have a scum in it and with what I posted everyone will know for 100% about an arsonist with it?

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

(I still don't know if your vanillize counts as a roleblock)

it shouldn't huh

but I'll ask for you

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

Let me rephrase it for easier understanding:

1 - we will flip KT or Furitive

Scenario A: They flip as town

2 - remaining of KT/Furitive should try to kill kokichi as they know kokichi lied if they are also town
3 - Pirates target the remaining of furitive/KT
4 - If pirates leave game, the remaining of furitive/KT is arson. If pirates stay in game Kokichi is arson

Scenario B: They flip as scum

2 - Pirates target Aisa
3 - if pirates leave game Aisa is Arson, if pirates don't leave game Aisa is town. In this scenario kokichi and the remaining of Furitive/KT is also town

You're saying we should always target aisa.

lets say we flip kt today and they flip town, we target aisa and they are town too so we wont leave. lets say you are scum and you fake claimed this guilty to set up two mislims. in this case town will mislim tomorrow furitive as well and effectively will loose majority. you will arson kill on that night and with us leaving town will loose the game.

with my plan there is a gaurntee that an arson will die today or tomorrow

whatever town decides I'll go with it

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

I'm not entirely sure what you mean with worst case scenario for town

our action wont be solving the entire game regardless of which plan we go for. difference is in mine, based on today flip, we will try to make sure next elim is 100% correct so town gets an extra day and in other we will have to completely trust you with that guilty and see where that will get us.

but yeah I also really think there is only 1 arson left and it should be in the trio for sure.

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

it makes all the difference for you.

"lets say we flip kt today and they flip town, we target aisa and they are town too so we wont leave. lets say you are scum and you fake claimed this guilty to set up two mislims. in this case town will mislim tomorrow furitive as well and effectively will loose majority. you will arson kill on that night and with us leaving town will loose the game."

you in that paragraph is kokichi.

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

picking furitive ends the game for us if kokichi is telling the truth.

why are you so sure he is telling the truth?

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

Let me rephrase it for easier understanding:

1 - we will flip KT or Furitive

Scenario A: They flip as town

2 - remaining of KT/Furitive should try to kill kokichi as they know kokichi lied if they are also town
3 - Pirates target the remaining of furitive/KT
4 - If pirates leave game, the remaining of furitive/KT is arson. If pirates stay in game Kokichi is arson

Scenario B: They flip as scum

2 - Pirates target Aisa
3 - if pirates leave game Aisa is Arson, if pirates don't leave game Aisa is town. In this scenario kokichi and the remaining of Furitive/KT is also town

Aisa is only relevant if there is a third arson. You need the second arson dead today or at start of next day phase. so we'll go after checking them if second arson is dead. otherwise with this plan of action, we'll make sure town 100% gets the second arson correctly at start of next day phase.

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

Then let's vote Furt? I don't really care which. If you're that worried I'm scum. I thought I was pretty townread, what do i have to gain from doing this now?

I think KT is a better vote than furt. I also think you're the towniest of this group of 3. that's why I said we'll target the other one you claimed guilty on that we don't elim today tonight.

but by chance you actually fake claimed to set up two easy mislims and guide pirates toward aisa to just get enough time to douse enough and kill all and with us leaving claim win with 2 night phases, town's best play is with us targeting in the pool of three we're sure there is an arson in too

anyways I plan to go with the plan of action I posted last page unless if town heavily disagrees with it. then we can negotiate about the best plan of action together

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

Its just that mechanically speaking, the claim you made is too ambiguous, its not a hard guilty, its a pair check and this is easiest way for an arson to setup 2 mislims back to back to get themselves a win.

please be objective and tell me that I'm wrong?

that plus I had you in my poe:

well we really wanted to rob a town and mura was 100% town so we went with them. Not gonna try enchant cause I town read them.

now we really gotta try and find arsons for both us and town (cause it be parity cop)

I think the next person I target is gonna be in KT, kokichi, fuyuhiko if aisa is elim today but haven't decided who I scumread the most.

if you give me like 24 hour to read game again I'll try and sort my thoughts. I'm super exhausted as I had another 1 very long day out

so this is all why I think my plan of action is most logical/beneficial for town and pirates.

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

there is gaurnteed to be a scum in my poe list btw \o/

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

(I still don't know if your vanillize counts as a roleblock)

so just asked

as expected its not a RB and wont prevent action that night

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

We wait for KT and fuyu reeplacement to talk 1st

I posted this before then

yeah not saying you just chose my poe to claim this on.

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

kokichi I'm just sure that if you're scum and we don't target in trio town is totally doomed

9 are alive 1 already doused. you can douse 1 more tonight, 2 are pirates 2 are arsons,, you insta kill 2 people on the second night, 2 were mislimed cause of this claim

5 people - we pirates leaving that night leaving 3 people 2 arson 1 town. gg for town

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honestly I cant see a way we pirates don't win anymore
we already targeted murashu and either we win by ending all scums today/tomorrow or there is a guaranteed/almost guaranteed scum we will target sometime soon.

my plan of action has nothing to do with pirates. its about town.

and that's why I think we have to target furtive if KT is town and aisa if kt is scum (of if furtive is elimed, replace KT there)

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

Let me rephrase it for easier understanding:

1 - we will flip KT or Furitive

Scenario A: They flip as town

2 - remaining of KT/Furitive should try to kill kokichi as they know kokichi lied if they are also town
3 - Pirates target the remaining of furitive/KT
4 - If pirates leave game, the remaining of furitive/KT is arson. If pirates stay in game Kokichi is arson

Scenario B: They flip as scum

2 - Pirates target Aisa
3 - if pirates leave game Aisa is Arson, if pirates don't leave game Aisa is town. In this scenario kokichi and the remaining of Furitive/KT is also town

This is how we gonna do it

seems like KT disappeared after the guilty so I wanna assume they accepting defeat and guilty is true. lets see where is gets us all then

VOTE: KT

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

since NM tried the plunder I'm gonna wait for him to get online and tell me what they saw

gimli should have a result of the FN

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

and town you owe me one big time

well you owe us both tbh haha nm got the first arson and I saved your plan of action by catching the second one

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

furitive was witch we plundered him last night

Furitive and Murashu are definitely on same alignment cause we're still in game

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

kokichi should be definitly the arson who tried to setup two mislim with that fake claim.

he wanted us to check aisa, then he would have have 1 extra day killing furtive and would win on this night phase

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

only other possibility is if you assume the arsons are murashu and furtive and murashu hailed 2 nights and blocked their own arson shots

so kokichi is definitely an outed arson here and you would loose to them if we would target aisa as they were asking us to

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

Witch

3 shot-curse

Target a player to curse a word with 5 or more letters, if the players repeats this word 3 times during the next day, they are instantly killed

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

cause thats exactly what they claimed

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

they had this in bag if it wasnt for my plan of action. they thought we're gonna go with aisa and give him the win.

I prevented them from winning this with that claim

you're so lucky that we pirates are here to save your sinking ship so all hail captain kyoko

pedit: they wont receive a message knowing they were plundered

I checked that with mod yesterday cause I wanted murashu to confirm us but mod said they wont know it

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

game should end with elim or day kill on kokichi, and you choosing who we plunder

but I'm thinking aisa is not scum anymore cause he wanted us to check aisa (unless if he wanted us to leave game last night?)

maybe enchant is a better plunder tbh but I'm gonna go with aisa tonight if you think that's the way

pedit:

actually maybe he wanted us to leave game last night targeting aisa scum

then game would be with 2 arson, 3 town tomorrow and you were set to mislim furitive who is clearly town after our last night plunder.

kokichi is always scum here though unless if you think marashu is scum

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

alright so I'm gonna assume thats an arson claim

and that without kokichi there will be 1 arson left. 8 players 1 arson, 2 doused, 2 pirates that means 3 untouched towns live

or am I miscalculating?

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

town still has absoloute majority today so kokichi is 100% going down
the last arson is no where close to winning

why would we even consider betraying at this point?

unless if you're arson with an offer about something we don't see?

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

town still has absoloute majority today so kokichi is 100% going down
the last arson is no where close to winning

why would we even consider betraying at this point?

unless if you're arson with an offer about something we don't see?

8 Players
2 pirates
2 arsonists (this stunt with fakeclaim was useless if there's less)
4 town

It's parity techically, and you are not really forced to help town, so it's real question.

P.S. I am not arson. Otherwise i am not voting right now, if i am trying all in to "influence" your vote or something.
But on your place, if i was Townsiding, i claim siding with Arsonists and then look who doesh't vote outed arso. Techically speaking, it would end game right away.

we're at 9 players right now not 8

anyways wish you all wouldn't rush this day the way you did.

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

I think last scum is not aisa and its enchant

you just left us no time to solve this before doing this stupidly fast hammer on a scum we outed for you...

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

yeah whatever. it didnt even matter cause kokichi was outed scum. if they really an idiot and doused us they just had no chance of winning at all anyway

if both of us pirates die town just won the easiest game of their life with us pirates giving you all the scum in body bags and scums being an idiot and shooting people who would leave on their own.

if not we will win together cause arsons have no way of winning this anyway

so enjoy your win town.

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

@gimnli dont disapear on me

i want you to solve game right now and don't f it up

tell me last arson is enchant or aisa?

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

why did you have to hammer before I get back online

I'm so freaking pissed right now

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

why would kokichi want us to target aisa if he had us doused and aisa is other scum?

logic says aisa is not scum

it should be enchant

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

ITS AISA

if you're wrong. I'll cry

but more importantly, the next time we play together. I'll cry then too

so don't be wrong

we gonna plunder aisa

pedit: you played horribly outing yourself yesterday. that claim was tragic. should have just plundered you instead of furtive tbh and plan that instead. that was my bad

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

we're at 9 players right now not 8

I wish we could have won together. Unfortunate. You let town dictate your actions too much, you should have been willing to work with us.

If you doused us for real, you're the worst arsonist who ever played that

your only chance of winning is with us leaving game and you killing everyone else.

otherwise how many night phases you wanted to douse before actually winning this game?

so I just hope you're not that bad of a player to throw yourself under the bus that much starting night 3 when you started to douse people in a game with double hail

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

I played enough with enchant to know when he is town

just trust my read and you'll win, sorry we hammered we were scared.

I'm gonna plunder aisa but if we loose I'll be so angry

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

if arsons really threw and enchant is other arson and we plunder wrong I be like that

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

hahahah I'm actually very scared now

don't worry... we got this...

also you were right about kokichi that was nice

I saved your [bleep]ing asses ...

and you don't even give me the chance to see if I can fish the other arson for our own wincon safety

you owe us this win by all means. the other arson died cause NM did NM stuff and I got you kokichi

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

What is Gimli's role?

fruit vendor something ...

but I don't know why he targeted kokichi twice

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

Says mr 50% arsonist xx

what do you mean with this?

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

omg I'm gonna feel so dumb right now

Im feeling so aweful right now if gimli is actually the other arson and used his action there to not accidentally boost anyone else

he was hard defending kokichi, was throwing aisa on mix all the way, was not really a fan of drew going down

gimli please tell me you're town

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

Kirigiri, certainly that isn't despair you're feeling right now. Right?

no I'm actually feeling really good cause arsons will loose regardless.

threatening to blow us off even if you didn't douse us was just a bad gambit you did. if you really doused us that was just game throwing

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

we're gonna plunder aisa

please be last arson

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

you're welcome town

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

Gimli called out all 5 scum day 2, honestly was impressed.

yet he fell for kokichi hard. I saved the game for town by insisting pirates to check for his claim

But yes he was impressive, specially for calling both me and NM as 3p. That was a great early solve

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

I still won despite being D1 elim...

anyway, I changed out "seeded randomized" for "pre-randomized", was wanting for this game to finish before renaming roles

you were great and well deserving of this win lich <3

you're welcome town

I like to think town had enough game presence to make the pirates townside. think we all helped creating an environment where we could benefit from each other, when I think some playerlists would make this much harder.

yes of course but

kokichi is never scum which is why I don't care for this conversation

I think we're ready to move on as long as the pirates target is clear to everyone

so you really owe me for us checking furtive that night and not going on aisa

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

and I dont care about pirate chat going public no need for redactions there

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

well yes

cause our wincondition was not what was written in actual setup thread and we could not endgame with town either for some reason

but yes

even though if we had more time to discuss we probably would agree on aisa together too. him being the only person who didn't vote kokichi was a big tell