Mini Theme 2290: Open ChatGPT - Game Over

[Menalque]

If we hit scum today then we mass claim tomorrow

[Not_Mafia]

Yeah it wasn’t kittytacky

Oh wait I’m dumb there’s a serial killer

VOTE: kittytacky

This is scum or serial killer unless the SK is gated

Yeah, Mena, I think it's fairly obvious what sort of mechanical confirmation you have. I believe you and it's probably the likeliest you're right
VOTE: KT, E-2

But there are at least two obvious alternative means for us to miss a kill. Maf and sk could have stacked. Or MT could have roleblocked the sk n1, assuming delayed means the roeblock would go in effect the following night (

@mod, is this how delayed works? In particular, does a delayed action succeed even if its actor died beforehand?

)

A delayed action, if successful, would take place the following night, a kill on the same night would NOT prevent the roleblock action

[Not_Mafia]

VC 3.01

redFF (2)-

Doctor Drew, biancospino

KittyTacky (1)-

Dei Ex Machina

Dei Ex Machina (0)-

Doctor Drew (0)-

Porkens (0)-

Menalque (0)-

imaginalty (0)-

biancospino (0)-

Not Voting (6)-

redff, KittyTacky, Porkens, Menalque, imaginality

With

8

alive, it takes

5

to instantly eliminate.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2023-03-13 23:00:00)

- Mar 13th 23:00 GMT

[imaginality]

Okay, that makes sense, sure

Porkens, is your KT clear from last night?

Like I said it’s really mostly gut, but I think I have a very good gut.

This is giving me vibes of Grandpa Mo's push on narrow parking. He was 100% sure, you're 999% sure. He went from mech to gut, seems like you're doing the same.

I also feel wary of how quickly Menalque took your word for KittyTacky being town.

Gonna sleep on this but my gut feels like you're wrong town.

[KittyTacky]

I done fucked up. I'm still town.

[KittyTacky]

My whole conception of the game kinda crashed down with Titus actually turning out scum. I guess I can sheep the Red wagon.

VOTE: RedFF

[Menalque]

Okay, that makes sense, sure

Porkens, is your KT clear from last night?

Like I said it’s really mostly gut, but I think I have a very good gut.

This is giving me vibes of Grandpa Mo's push on narrow parking. He was 100% sure, you're 999% sure. He went from mech to gut, seems like you're doing the same.

I also feel wary of how quickly Menalque took your word for KittyTacky being town.

Gonna sleep on this but my gut feels like you're wrong town.

I can think of at least 2 very good reasons to not push on Porkens here, and that’s why I’m willing to roll with this for today

Again, if we hit scum today then mass claim tomorrow and it will all make sense

[Dei Ex Machina]

I don't really get what's going on with all the claims,
but if my mental logic is right then I think anyone can still be any alignment based on the information we have so far.

-Morta

[Dei Ex Machina]

Dei, what are your thoughts on bianco at this point in the game?

You have perfect timing, this is actually a perfect chance for me to braindump

It was a bit of a point of contention when I last spoke to Nyx about it. I suspect the slot a bit but I think she said she still thought the slot looked towny.
It's less of a "liar liar pants on fire" scumminess for me, more of a lack of convincing towntells. The activity pattern of being seemignly more motivated early in the game could fit scum. Was also looking through some stuff in the early game and if you look here there's a lot of content that looks like town solving but is actually ChatGPT talk and could possibly be a bit lamisty: viewtopic.php?p=13652064&f=23&t=90462&u ... #p13652064

I also can't really decide was this progression means

Spoiler:

UNVOTE:

What it is you want me to

vote: Titus

?

I'm not convinced, but I'm going with the flow.

Anyway, MT stopped protecting Porkens after like 8 pages or so iirc, and it wasn't really blatant or anything, in fact some of the arguments against sring the usage of the chat was not dissimilar from my own. It stopped after it was no more convenient to do so since it was no more convenient to keep poking Blood, and the way that was done was intermingled with poking Blood.

It's not enough to flip my read on the slot just yet, but I agree bianco is coasting.
@bianco, you still haven't answered our question. Why did you vote Titus if you weren't convinced she's mafia?

- Nyx

I'm slacking off, yes.

As I evidently stated, I was just voting with the consensus. It's not like I'm TRing the slot either, and in fact currently my gut poe is {Porkens, KT, Titus, Mena} and I understand that there is no interest for a Porkens wagon

"I'm not convinced but I'm going with the flow" caught my attention because I originally thought it could be setting up a Titus mislim (welp ;-;)
Idk maybe it's something both town and scum can have a reason to say, maybe it's more productive to look elsewhere instead of dwelling on what this means

-Morta

[Dei Ex Machina]

Imaginality can you talk me through your doubts on why redFF is scum?

Mainly the GrandpaMo fake guilty on narrowparking gambit seemed more like the sort of daft thing town are more likely to do than scum.

I see you’ve never met GrandpaMo before

Anything more you can say about this?
Ik this seems dumb but maybe it would help make the idea of GrandpaMo possibly scum seem more plausible

Okay, that makes sense, sure

Porkens, is your KT clear from last night?

Like I said it’s really mostly gut, but I think I have a very good gut.

Is it gut or are you mechanically certain? Because no offence but I don’t really care about how sure you are based on gut when I have strong mechanical reasons to think that KT is scum or 3rd party scum. If you have a mechanical clear on KT then I need you to tell me yes or no to the question of whether it was from last night?

Massive townping @this, by the way

-Morta

[Dei Ex Machina]

Okay, that makes sense, sure

Porkens, is your KT clear from last night?

Like I said it’s really mostly gut, but I think I have a very good gut.

Look I’m 999% confident.

Menal, I know why you are asking and you are just going to have to trust me.

Porkens, your claim is falling apart. First, you said you had a

mechanical clear

, now you're saying "it's mostly gut but I'm confident so just trust me bro." How do you expect anyone to trust you when your entire claim looks like bogus? You have no evidence, no explanation, you can't even decide if you have a clear or not. How anyone has given your claim any credibility is beyond me.
If you are town like I think you are, then I need you to answer these questions in no uncertain terms.

1. Are you mechanically certain that KT is town-aligned, and that it is impossible for him to be mafia or third party?
2. If so, answer Menalque's question. Do you have a mechanical clear on KT that you got last night?

If you're faking a clear, just come clean. It would be anti-town not to. I probably still won't trust you until you've fullclaimed, but I can live with waiting until tomorrow if you commit to having or not having an inno.

- Nyx

[Dei Ex Machina]

Dei, what are your thoughts on bianco at this point in the game?

Leaning town, probably not mafia, third party is a possibility (though I'm not sure how you even hunt 3p).
Mostly because of my D1 read and the progression Morta just said she couldn't figure out. I'd expect mafia to come up with a better reason to vote their buddy than "just following the consensus." I don't think Morta saw where I said that in hydra chat though.

- Nyx

[Porkens]

Guys I’m meming a gpmo moment. Seriously though All more I’m going to say at this point is trust me.

[Dei Ex Machina]

My vote's not moving then.
@everyone else, do you still trust what seems, at this point, to be nothing more than a dressed-up gutread?

- Nyx

[Doctor Drew]

My vote's not moving then.
@everyone else, do you still trust what seems, at this point, to be nothing more than a dressed-up gutread?

- Nyx

I do kinda trust Pork, I don't think scum would hammer their buddy when they are about to be replaced. Could be a 3p gambit, but that is a very risky play, so I lean that they are town and have at least some extra knowledge about KT.

Menal I think is jumping to conclusions too quickly. Not that I think Menal is doing something anti town per se, I just trust Pork's 'claim' more as fact, if that makes sense.

[biancospino]

I don't think it's purely a gutread. I thought about it some and there is at least one credible scenario I see in which Porkens actually has mech insight and may want to pretend it's not the case; but I'm pretty sure it's not actually even close to a 100% certainty kind of deal.

@Porkens, yes/no. Is there any piece information that informed your inno that isn't publicly available in the game thread?

[Porkens]

YOU WILL JUST HAVE TO TRUST ME BOO.

REAL TALK? BIANCOSPINO IS LAST MAF.

VOTE: BIANCOSPINO

[Porkens]

ACTUALLY NVM I DONT KNOW WHO LAST MAF IS

UNVOTE

THIS SHOULD GO THO

VOTE: RED

[Doctor Drew]

Is it possible that a jester would be in the game?

[Dei Ex Machina]

/in to mod

Game Name:

Open ChatGPT

Flavor/Mechanics:

This is 13 player set-up designed by Open ChatGPT

Game Size:

13

Co/Backup Mod:

None- Happy to have one if anyone expresses interest

Reviewed By:

Open ChatGPT

Setup Link:

Closed

Experience:

Plenty

Current Modding Commitments:

None

Hydra Policy:

Any player can ban Hydras from signing up after them, this will not affect hydras who have already signed up

Other Restrictions?:

None

Deadlines:

10 days/2 days

Prod Timer:

48 hours/24 hours

Is it possible your game has any mechanically bastard roles or mechanics?

No

Is it possible your game has any procedurally bastard dynamics?

No

Mafia rule exception requests:

None

Other:

Set-up is 9-3-1, mafia has daytalk. Set-up was made by Open ChatGPT with prompts by me, roles have been renamed in line with mafiascum nomenclature

I doubt it.

- Nyx

[Dei Ex Machina]

Curious what made you ask that question though.

- Nyx

[Doctor Drew]

Curious what made you ask that question though.

- Nyx

Just some paranoia about Pork. The way he hammered Titus, and his claim today coupled with his last couple weird posts.

[Porkens]

You mean the absolute hero way I hammered scum? My amazing claim that prevents us from miseliminating town and clearing another PR? You guys are making me weird.

[Dei Ex Machina]

Claim that prevents us from [...] clearing another PR?
@mod, are you sure this isn't jester?

- Nyx

[Dei Ex Machina]

Anyway, I don't trust Porkens about Kitty, but there is more than one evil in this game and I really don't mind this wagon.

VOTE: redFF

E-1.

- Nyx