In post 998, KawaiiKame wrote:
I'm not down to eliminate Gimli this day phase, it seems too convenient, like think logically, why pursue me being Kira so much if he believes I am Kira as a follower? That feels ultimately town to me
What do you mean here? I thought he was pursuing you because he thought you were Kira?
In post 992, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
The conversation has spun WILDLY out of my comprehension. Can this one get an update or two?
Yes, meg was being theorized to be Kira, Gimli was defending meg being town/not Kira, then Gimli voted meg with everyone then everyone voted Gimli, my theory is Kokichi is Kira
I've already explained why it doesn't make sense for me being Kira.
Since you being Kira = Black/mala being your followers? Idk if that's the case, the followers may have not believed in you being Kira
In post 998, KawaiiKame wrote:
I'm not down to eliminate Gimli this day phase, it seems too convenient, like think logically, why pursue me being Kira so much if he believes I am Kira as a follower? That feels ultimately town to me
What do you mean here? I thought he was pursuing you because he thought you were Kira?
Precisely, why would a follower of Kira pursue to eliminate me if he believed I am Kira?
In post 998, KawaiiKame wrote:
I'm not down to eliminate Gimli this day phase, it seems too convenient, like think logically, why pursue me being Kira so much if he believes I am Kira as a follower? That feels ultimately town to me
What do you mean here? I thought he was pursuing you because he thought you were Kira?
Precisely, why would a follower of Kira pursue to eliminate me if he believed I am Kira?
Maybe I'm just dumb but I'm not following. If Gimli is a follower and you are town, why would he not push you if you're acting like Kira?
In post 992, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
The conversation has spun WILDLY out of my comprehension. Can this one get an update or two?
Yes, meg was being theorized to be Kira, Gimli was defending meg being town/not Kira, then Gimli voted meg with everyone then everyone voted Gimli, my theory is Kokichi is Kira
I've already explained why it doesn't make sense for me being Kira.
Since you being Kira = Black/mala being your followers? Idk if that's the case, the followers may have not believed in you being Kira
Followers know who Kira is though, no?
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 933, Kokichi Oma wrote:
One thing I don't get about Meg is that they've had this scumread on me all game, yet they haven't even tried to case more or even push me much.
This is explicitly untrue and I'll get around to expanding my thoughts on you when I'm on desktop.
I don't...know? Is it Kira who doesn't know who Kira is?
Wait no, is it Kira who doesn't know the followers?
*Is it the followers who doesn't know who Kira is?
In post 998, KawaiiKame wrote:
I'm not down to eliminate Gimli this day phase, it seems too convenient, like think logically, why pursue me being Kira so much if he believes I am Kira as a follower? That feels ultimately town to me
What do you mean here? I thought he was pursuing you because he thought you were Kira?
Precisely, why would a follower of Kira pursue to eliminate me if he believed I am Kira?
Maybe I'm just dumb but I'm not following. If Gimli is a follower and you are town, why would he not push you if you're acting like Kira?
That's the thing, I don't believe Gimli was as a follower would push me if he thought I was Kira, how would he know I'm not Kira, do the followers know who Kira is? Maybe I'm the stupid one lmfao, I'm not following the mechanics of the game
Pedit: Yeah I failed to read the opening post, this changes things, Gimli as town would be motivated to pursue me if the belief in me being Kira is genuine, Gimli as follower would be motivated to pursue me to kill the false Kira and be seen as town
I feel Gimli's pursuit of me is genuine, this is why I feel Gimli is town
So you still feel like Gimli is town even though your main reason for TRing him was you misunderstanding the rules? You just changed why you think Gimli is town after the rules got cleared up. What
Can you explain your scumread on me? I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt.
Overall your feel has been fairly 'off'. I didn't like the initial Gimli push because it felt like you were attacking someone making a completely reasonable argument for making that argument. Additionally, it feels partially like you are trying to shade my slot by putting words into my mouth about my vote on you in rvs and how I should absolutely know you were town on page 5 or whatever it was.
It does feel like there's some genuine solving which is why you aren't fully in the red yet but a lot of the solving feels really dubious and easily scum motivated. It's hard to weigh between the two.
In post 1010, Black wrote:
So you still feel like Gimli is town even though your main reason for TRing him was you misunderstanding the rules? You just changed why you think Gimli is town after the rules got cleared up. What
I always felt Gimli's pursuit of me was genuine, but followers knowing who Kira is creates doubt in his intentions
Take all the time you need, hopefully I'm not breaking your brain with my mind
I felt Gimli is genuine in his pursuit/thought followers didn't know who Kira is
Now I know the Followers know who Kira is that leaves me with Gimli's Kira pursuit feeling genuine
I need to re-anlayze all this in the pov that meg is Gimli's Kira
FMPOV there's very few scum pairings I think are likely where gimli is Kira, (Like kawaii/std as followers? Probably not kokichi/black/lorne/?HPE?, maybe mala ig)
They seem a bit.. unhinged? They felt very static earlier like a tunneled townie but it's harder for me to justify that as time is moving on.
In post 1012, MegAzumarill wrote:
It does feel like there's some genuine solving which is why you aren't fully in the red yet but a lot of the solving feels really dubious and easily scum motivated
In post 1015, MegAzumarill wrote:
FMPOV there's very few scum pairings I think are likely where gimli is Kira, (Like kawaii/std as followers? Probably not kokichi/black/lorne/?HPE?, maybe mala ig)
They seem a bit.. unhinged? They felt very static earlier like a tunneled townie but it's harder for me to justify that as time is moving on.
Gimli + me = unhinged
std doesn't feel unhinged in my eyes, why std as a follower of Gimli? Feels interesting
Idek why Gimli will pursue me so hard being Kira as...Kira, why do you feel Gimli is my Kira if you believe I'm a follower? Do you feel I'd feign being Kira as a follower in place of a town?
The followers know who Kira is. The followers do NOT know each other, and Kira does NOT know who the followers are
Yes, I know. I was confused cause maybe I thought I misread since he seemed sure about it.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
I suppose there isn't a lot of singular posts to grab for it, but he goes back and forth amongst others in ways that feel genuinely curious for the motivation and is pretty actively engaged with players in the game and their thoughts.
You can argue scum do this but usually there's some degree of discrediting/vanity within that doesn't feel very present. (There's a little, but that's generally normal)
In post 959, Kokichi Oma wrote:
When I was getting voted early game, there was no one defending me, I had to do so myself. Everyone was willing to vote me or did vote me. I think except Mala but they were barely around, and Black. So in that case, it would lead to believe that Black and Mala were most likely followers for me if I am Kira. Who would you say would be followers if I were Kira?
No one defending you when you being voted is the best defense you have of not being Kira... I need to go back and see if anyone did defend you
Can you explain your scumread on me? I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt.
Overall your feel has been fairly 'off'. I didn't like the initial Gimli push because it felt like you were attacking someone making a completely reasonable argument for making that argument. Additionally, it feels partially like you are trying to shade my slot by putting words into my mouth about my vote on you in rvs and how I should absolutely know you were town on page 5 or whatever it was.
It does feel like there's some genuine solving which is why you aren't fully in the red yet but a lot of the solving feels really dubious and easily scum motivated. It's hard to weigh between the two.
So me scumcasing Gimli which led to others casting doubt on him is not solving?
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 1015, MegAzumarill wrote:
FMPOV there's very few scum pairings I think are likely where gimli is Kira, (Like kawaii/std as followers? Probably not kokichi/black/lorne/?HPE?, maybe mala ig)
They seem a bit.. unhinged? They felt very static earlier like a tunneled townie but it's harder for me to justify that as time is moving on.
Gimli + me = unhinged
std doesn't feel unhinged in my eyes, why std as a follower of Gimli? Feels interesting
Idek why Gimli will pursue me so hard being Kira as...Kira, why do you feel Gimli is my Kira if you believe I'm a follower? Do you feel I'd feign being Kira as a follower in place of a town?
I mean if you are are follower you would want to defend gimli, and he would have no way to know it is you?
Are you not defending gimli's case on you?
It's plausible imo, I don't really think it's reality.
