Micro 1075: The Coalition of Imaginary Creatures (Game over)
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Bingle Survivor
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Anyway, I've gotta go get a part fabricated, so I'll be back later."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
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patchwork they/themMafia Scumthey/them
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i'm kind of tempted to hammer the coalition and watch it faillolhammer count: 3-
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Bingle Survivor
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Do you have any original ideas you might be able to share?In post 576, patchwork wrote: i'm kind of tempted to hammer the coalition and watch it fail"He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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Eiralox Mafia Scum
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It is. I'm not the only voice here. You assume people will listen to me? I don't get that assumption. And again, outside of partner hunting I stated my reasons for an um/nsg push outside of associatives with you tho. Mostly nsg. I might be mellowing on umlaut.In post 573, Bingle wrote:
Is it? Say the coalition doesn't work (which I'm actually pretty happy about it working now, tbh, based on patch's response here). You want to eliminate umlaut because you think he's my partner. You want to eliminate nsg because you think she's my partner. How much of a stretch is it that scum will capitalize on you trying to eliminate anyone who even so much as looks like they might be my partner for free miseliminations?In post 570, Eiralox wrote: Saying 'your tunnel on me auto-loses this game' is one hell of a stretch by the way and will not ease my read on you. There are 9 players, 7 tomorrow. This game isn't 'hey everyone let's listen and believe everything eira says', I don't want it to be, so this statement is on the whole quite weird.
nsg: exlcude um, key, dunn
nsg: include um, key, n_m
There's no record of thought progression, it's a very interesting change, on a failed coalition why wouldn't nsg be a good push?
Again, I don't like statements like these. I already stated my mind can change along the line. What mkles you think I'll even succeed in pushing nsg(or maybe um) through today? Both are pretty widely townread. Statements like this and above feel panicky to me.In post 574, Bingle wrote:
Explicitly, I want you in a place where you're willing to think about what the world looks like if I'm town, and I don't think that happens without my elimination if this coalition does fail. I'll take a guaranteed miselim over multiple likely ones.In post 571, Eiralox wrote: I'm not sure what you want from me.
In a world where you're town you're town. I have set out many reasons why I believe this might not be the case. So what makes your mis-elim better here? Why aren't you telling me to vote kawaii or n_m today, or patch? Why is it so important to create this narrative that I have to push you instead of nsg or maybe umlaut?
We're going to talk in circles and create thread clutter. If my read on you changes, it changes. I work with what I have and for now I don't find it unlikely that scum will be in frequent posters, and someone widely tr'd like nsg on a failed coalition. That's optimal scum strat in this setup: look towny, be townread, become part of the borg collective. I said I will not be voting you today.
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No, sorry, I'm scum sheeping Eira. So no original ideas for youIn post 577, Bingle wrote:
Do you have any original ideas you might be able to share?In post 576, patchwork wrote: i'm kind of tempted to hammer the coalition and watch it faillolhammer count: 3-
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You do realize that if you're town this does absolutely nothing to help me fix my read on you, right? I'd imagine as town you'd be interested in being read correctly, particularly with the stated concern that the coalition I'm supporting is going to fail.In post 579, patchwork wrote: No, sorry, I'm scum sheeping Eira. So no original ideas for you"He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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I really don't give a shit anymore tbhIn post 580, Bingle wrote:
You do realize that if you're town this does absolutely nothing to help me fix my read on you, right? I'd imagine as town you'd be interested in being read correctly, particularly with the stated concern that the coalition I'm supporting is going to fail.In post 579, patchwork wrote: No, sorry, I'm scum sheeping Eira. So no original ideas for youlolhammer count: 3-
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I'll come back to the game after I reread and get some new impressions. Which is later.lolhammer count: 3-
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I'd obviously prefer patch. I'm willing to consider nsg, now that you have talked a bit about reasons other than 'being partnered with bingle' to suspect her. I agree that her absence here is troubling. I'd vaguely prefer letting BoP solve her, but I think it's likely a theoretical KeyTown eats the bullet if we lim her and that solves another slot I'm less confident on. Kawaii is both a low information lim and also not likely to be on the coalition, so a failed coalition means that's a bad lim all around.In post 578, Eiralox wrote: Why aren't you telling me to vote kawaii or n_m today, or patch?
578 does make me feel a lot better that you're not going to blindly lim on the basis of "maybe they're paired with Bingle", though, so I'm willing to drop that for now."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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Eiralox Mafia Scum
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I stated those reasons long before you said I'm not stating any reasons. That was a repeat, before you said I'm only looking only looking from a partenered perspective I had an entire post up why nsg can be scum independently. It's framings of narrative such as these that will not make me trust you or your coalition, among other factors.
If the coalition everyone seems to be heading towards fails btw I'll look at nsg and umlaut, yes.
If no one bites, Kawaii is my lim. Straight up outside of an actual scumread kawaii is an excellent lim, if we get little from them today I'm not going to keep my hopes up and just straight up policy over N_M. Kawaii over patch any day.
I believe I've covered everything I want to. I'm ok with my coalition but would prefer dunnstral over umlaut. If there's any chance tho I have to compromise somewhere.
It would be lovely to hear from everyone before there's an actual hammer.-
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Ok you're not wrong here and patch (who is not in the coalition gaining steam) supporting Eira stalling and breaking it up instead of... idk, delivering on that statement in 534 and hammering the coalition so we have TIME to discuss any elim after doesn't feel great for their alignment. It does make me a bit more confident in the coalition that no one has hammered it in the last 12 hoursIn post 551, Bingle wrote:In post 534, patchwork wrote:
SecondedIn post 533, Keychain wrote: We have less than four days remaining so at this point I'll take anything that doesn't contain kawaii or dunn to avoid day ending without elimination if coalition fails
These are exactly what give me the bad vibes from patch, fwiw.In post 538, patchwork wrote: Eira not to pocket you please don’t take this as pocketing but I would follow you to the ends of the fucking earth. Literally your vibes are SO on point. You want me to vote someone? Sure. I’ll even help you scumcase them.
spookyIn post 541, northsidegal wrote: actually i am just fully gonna sheep keychainYou're under no obligation to be the same person you were 5 minutes ago.-
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I'll count some votes to hopefully win N_M's support on this coalition because I'm feeling too much time pressure to consider changing anything about it now, and patch's posting looks a bit like a hail mary.You're under no obligation to be the same person you were 5 minutes ago.-
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I love this sentiment and the desire to have everyone weigh in Eira but also - if the coalition is right the game is over, if we're wrong we have very little time to organise an elimination already. We can discuss more and everyone can chip in before deadline if the game is still underway. No other coalition is going to get enough support in time to also discuss an elimination so please put me out of my misery and hammer this so I don't have to count the votes for N_M, I already regret promising to do that, manual votecounting is SO painfulIn post 584, Eiralox wrote: It would be lovely to hear from everyone before there's an actual hammer.You're under no obligation to be the same person you were 5 minutes ago.-
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VOTECOUNT1.014ELIMINATIONVOTESPLAYERNAMECURRENTVOTESKeychain (2)northsidegal, Not_Mafia patchwork (0)None KawaiiKame (1)Keychain Not_Mafia (0)None northsidegal (0)None Eiralox (0)None Umlaut (0)None Dunnstral (0)None Bingle (0)None patchwork, KawaiiKame, Dunnstral, Bingle, Umlaut, EiraloxNOT VOTING:COALITIONVOTESPLAYERNAMECURRENTCOALITIONKeychain (5)Keychain, northsidegal, Eiralox, Umlaut, Not_Mafia patchwork (4)patchwork, northsidegal, Eiralox, Not_Mafia KawaiiKame (5)Eiralox, Dunnstral, Keychain, northsidegal, Umlaut Not_Mafia (5)Not_Mafia, Keychain, patchwork, northsidegal, Eiralox northsidegal (5)northsidegal, Eiralox, Keychain, Umlaut, Not_Mafia Eiralox (5)Eiralox, Not_Mafia, Keychain, patchwork, Umlaut Umlaut (5)Umlaut, northsidegal, Keychain, Eiralox, Not_Mafia Dunnstral (5)Dunnstral, Umlaut, Eiralox, Bingle, northsidegal Bingle (5)Umlaut, northsidegal, Keychain, Eiralox, Not_Mafia With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lock in a Coalition and 5 to eliminate.
Deadline: (expired on 2023-04-06 14:49:20)Imaginary creatures have completely fallen by the waysideNotes:-
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oh an official one is probably incoming but this is my count, grouped the consensus coalition at the top
Keychain (5): Keychain, northsidegal, Eiralox, Umlaut, Not_Mafia
northsidegal (5): northsidegal, Eiralox, Keychain, Umlaut, N_M
Umlaut (5): Umlaut, northsidegal, Keychain, Eiralox, Not_Mafia
Bingle (5): Umlaut, northsidegal, Keychain, Eiralox, N_M
patchwork (4): patchwork, northsidegal, Eiralox, Not_Mafia
KawaiiKame (5): Eiralox, Dunnstral, Keychain, northsidegal, Umlaut
Not_Mafia (5): Not_Mafia, Keychain, patchwork, northsidegal, Eiralox
Eiralox (5): Eiralox, Not_Mafia, Keychain, patchwork, Umlaut
Dunnstral (5): Dunnstral, Umlaut, Eiralox, Bingle, northsidegalYou're under no obligation to be the same person you were 5 minutes ago.-
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Eiralox Mafia Scum
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I might just settle on a Kawaii policy lim to avoid effort at this point, but that's just me.In post 587, Keychain wrote:
I love this sentiment and the desire to have everyone weigh in Eira but also - if the coalition is right the game is over, if we're wrong we have very little time to organise an elimination already. We can discuss more and everyone can chip in before deadline if the game is still underway. No other coalition is going to get enough support in time to also discuss an elimination so please put me out of my misery and hammer this so I don't have to count the votes for N_M, I already regret promising to do that, manual votecounting is SO painfulIn post 584, Eiralox wrote: It would be lovely to hear from everyone before there's an actual hammer.
I don't want to seem obstructive here but if no one hammers in 24 hours or so I'll do it just to reach the next stage, though overall in a game with a single mechanic I feel hearing everyone's voices about a consensus coalition is kind of important, personally I don't mind having two days to discuss elim.
Especially Dunstrall and KawaiiKame, if I'm factoring in voting Kame here I want to hear their take at least, they might convince me otherwise.
I'm also not doing all this to undermine the current coalition btw, I already said I doubt people will remove nsg for patch so pushing my coalition might be whipping a dead horse at this point.
i sure talk a lot fml.
keychain the main thing for why I'm not hammering is that Bingle, Umlaut and northsidegal were super quick with jumping onto this coalition, especially with the Not_Mafia heal.... before you and me healed Not_Mafia everyone seemed like 'Yeah nah ain't happening.' And northsidegal suddenly trusts you and Umlaut?
So if there's scum in the coalition hearing reasons for why those with this coalition so quickly adopted it can sort of help town in the long run on a failure?
i'm sorry I've never played a coalition so me being cautious is sort of the default mode I'll be in here. Like... people sort of will talk differently if they need a specific coalition though instead of after the fact? I'm sort of sensing that in Bingle ngl. Ugh. Basically, I'm not ready, sorry for making things harder for you I guess.-
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In post 549, Umlaut wrote: I actually think this coalition has a good chance of winning because everyone on it looks pretty town to me, and I have no idea what I will do next if it fails.
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Gonna say I'm leaning mafia on KawaiiKame tooIn post 584, Eiralox wrote: I stated those reasons long before you said I'm not stating any reasons. That was a repeat, before you said I'm only looking only looking from a partenered perspective I had an entire post up why nsg can be scum independently. It's framings of narrative such as these that will not make me trust you or your coalition, among other factors.
If the coalition everyone seems to be heading towards fails btw I'll look at nsg and umlaut, yes.
If no one bites, Kawaii is my lim. Straight up outside of an actual scumread kawaii is an excellent lim, if we get little from them today I'm not going to keep my hopes up and just straight up policy over N_M. Kawaii over patch any day.
I believe I've covered everything I want to. I'm ok with my coalition but would prefer dunnstral over umlaut. If there's any chance tho I have to compromise somewhere.
It would be lovely to hear from everyone before there's an actual hammer.-
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The current coalition will definitely fail because nobody is trying to change it. And if it were all town mafia would lose instantly, so they'd be up in arms about it.-
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Inverted vote count(number of players healing each player)
Eiralox:9 (Keychain, patchwork, KawaiiKame, Not_Mafia, northsidegal, Eiralox, Umlaut, Dunnstral, Bingle)
northsidegal:8 (Keychain, patchwork, KawaiiKame, Not_Mafia, northsidegal, Umlaut, Dunnstral, Bingle)
Keychain:7 (Keychain, KawaiiKame, Not_Mafia, northsidegal, Eiralox, Umlaut, Bingle)
Umlaut:7 (Keychain, KawaiiKame, northsidegal, Eiralox, Umlaut, Dunnstral, Bingle)
Not_Mafia:5 (Keychain, patchwork, Not_Mafia, Eiralox, Umlaut)
patchwork:3 (patchwork, Not_Mafia, Eiralox)
Dunnstral:2 (KawaiiKame, Dunnstral)
Bingle:1 (Dunnstral)
KawaiiKame:0 ()
I don't know if these are useful to anyone but I already made it so here it is.“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs-
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And because we did that thing where we let scum influence it for like a week straight instead of doing what I suggested at the start of the game.-
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I sort of think you're town btw, it feels like you're just waiting for this to fail at this point before staring hunting scum : )In post 593, Dunnstral wrote: The current coalition will definitely fail because nobody is trying to change it. And if it were all town mafia would lose instantly, so they'd be up in arms about it.
(These posts were mindmelds fuuuuuuuuuuuu yeah I tend to locktown people for mindmelds... you're close ; ) }-
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Here is my proposal: We all unvote the current coalition and do the opposite of where we are headed right now.
Not_Mafia, patchwork, Dunnstral, Bingle, KawaiiKame coalition. Exclude Eiralox, northsidegal, Keychain. Umlaut.-
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Okay, sure, so what thoughts do you actually have on that matter? How would you change it to take advantage of that?In post 591, Dunnstral wrote:
468In post 549, Umlaut wrote: I actually think this coalition has a good chance of winning because everyone on it looks pretty town to me, and I have no idea what I will do next if it fails.“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs-
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oh, there's your answer.“There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say, ‘There are two kinds of people in this world: those who say there are two kinds of people in this world,and the other kind,’ and those whodon’tsay. Well, then there’s me.” — J.R. “Bob” Dobbs
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