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[Abnegation]

Wow I know I wasn’t really here for last few days due to moving but ppl in this game has either too many posts or too little posts.

I have 4.5 townreads including the IC so far.
The .5 may be rounded up or down depends on what I see probably in next few posts

if you have townreads, can you share them?

[Abnegation]

we've got 3 days and we haven't made much progress. now is not the time to be vague and hold things back.

[Abnegation]

@mod

- furtive and kawaii need prods.

[Hell Froze Over]

we've got 3 days and we haven't made much progress. now is not the time to be vague and hold things back.

Yeah, game's pretty slow uh.
You're not voting anyone. You don't like the Rauth wagon?

~b

[Narration]

@mod

- furtive and kawaii need prods.

I'll do that now. Thanks for the reminder.

[Narration]

Day 1 Count III

Rautherdir (3) - Feysal,

Hell Froze Over

, Enchant
Enchant (2) - The Keeper, Rautherdir
Hugir (1) - furtiveglance
IceDragon70 (1) - ActionDan

Not Voting

- Abnegation, IceDragon70, BlueSnakelet, GoldfishFromTheMoon, Hugir, KawaiiKame

Notes

• With 13 remaining, it takes 7 to form a majority.
  
• Mod ISO is here.
  
• Tell me if any mistakes exist or questions missed.
  
• I am V/LA until Good Friday.
  
• IceDragon70 and BlueSnakelet are V/LA until Wednesday.
  
• Prodding furtive and Kawaii.
  
• Hell Froze Over is a disciple of
  Invocation

  .

Day 1

concludes in (expired on 2023-04-07 17:55:00)

[The Keeper]

VOTE: Hugir

[Hugir]

Wow I know I wasn’t really here for last few days due to moving but ppl in this game has either too many posts or too little posts.

I have 4.5 townreads including the IC so far.
The .5 may be rounded up or down depends on what I see probably in next few posts

if you have townreads, can you share them?

I think I named them all over the course actually

Frozen - is IC
Alianna alt - miller, I think it’s truthful and is town role
ActionDan - “10 years old meta”
Feysal - Just feels town
Rauth - my 0.5 townread

[Hugir]

Although to be honest I’m really just memeing with 10 years old meta thing (although there’s a tiny bit of truth behind it)
I just think he’s town here. I have this tendency to townread effort but I think I’m actually right here

[Hugir]

I’ll place my vote later tonight when there is less than 2 days deadline left

Tbh my long term moving is kinda destroying me but I didn’t realize we have short deadline so I guess I gotta do better than having rounded-up-to-5 townreads two of them basically being confirmed towns

[Hugir]

None of the wagons rn I’m not really interested atm.
I still think Rau is town because I really don’t think checker is a role given to scum. Enchant I’m aware is prone to get wagoned. Ice I think last time I ISO’d him I didn’t really find him scummy.

I’ll finally have desktop access tonight so we’ll see if I can whip up something.

[furtiveglance]

I got prodded.

[furtiveglance]

VOTE: Goldfishfromthemoon

[furtiveglance]

enchant is totally in their scum meta here. like, look at their iso and then look at this.

Do you have a read on Enchant?

[Enchant]

enchant is totally in their scum meta here. like, look at their iso and then look at this.

Do you have a read on Enchant?

Dude it's clearly explained on link!

[Hugir]

VOTE: Goldfishfromthemoon

Why

[furtiveglance]

Not sure who else to vote

[Hugir]

Don’t like any of the current wagons?

[Hell Froze Over]

Ehi furtive, lemme sell you a wagon

Wait a minute... how does one simultaneously theorize Benediction being benign, and suspect someone of slipping they were not?

Spoiler: actual quote

The theory was meant to provoke discussion and get us out of RVS. I don't actually believe it to be the case, and without night actions or a flip to show otherwise I will be treating the game as having two antagonistic factions against town.

Oh no I was just pretending to believe that, in reality with no extra info I'm assuming they are both malign

Spoiler:

Ok, but. If you're treating both scumfactions as malign, you surely agree that it would be reasonable for any other Invocation to do the same, barring Informed and somesuch; then I don't see where the scumslip is

But if that's so, how the fuck was Enchant slipping in your pov for assuming the same thing as you do?

Spoiler:

That... is true. I'll admit I'm a fan of more exotic setups, and thus tend to think about them as a possibility more then most players would.

Oh, green not being malign is a thing that I though about for reasons (which is somehow a relevant thing to say despite the fact that I admitted this is not an opinion I actually hold)

I mean c'mon, what. If you eat your cake, you don't have it anymore, and you can't both admit you're treating the game as if it is two malign groupscum,

and

behave like treating the game as if it is two malign groupscum is somehow a scumslip.

Like, if they said that they would expect invocations to not assume green to be evil, that would have been a thing, but their explicitly saying that they themselves are taking that position

~b

[Hell Froze Over]

*they're explicitly saying... let's blame that on the autocorrect

[ActionDan]

I had been filtering out Rauth's mechanical explanations but as you and feysal are presenting casework on it I'm going to take another look at them tonight.

If we're going lurker hunting I think I'd prefer kawaii only because of the posting in other games not this one that I've seen sporadically. Dunno if goldfish had done the same.

[ActionDan]

VOTE: Hugir

But why?

[Hell Froze Over]

Careful there, I think talking about site activity in other games at the very least walks the line if not even surpass it

[ActionDan]

Ah okay I'll refrain from continuing then

[Feysal]

The theory was meant to provoke discussion and get us out of RVS. I don't actually believe it to be the case, and without night actions or a flip to show otherwise I will be treating the game as having two antagonistic factions against town.

This has already been pointed out, but if you believed this, I don't follow how you could think sharing that belief was a slip.

I also tried to imagine what my thought process would have been if I had entered the game believing Benediction would not be inherently hostile. I might have thought Enchant assuming otherwise was weird. "Hey, don't you think it is strange to expect Benediction to be scum? I thought they might not be our enemy, what do you think? Really? No one else, just me? Huh, guess that was nothing then." But that is not what happened here. I could believe that thought process, even if I did not share it myself. But what actually happened, that I don't get.

Yeah, game's pretty slow uh.

I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking this. If this pace was considered normal, it would have been pretty sad.

Careful there, I think talking about site activity in other games at the very least walks the line if not even surpass it.

If that is so, that is something that has changed since my last game. It was once understood that talking about general activity was fair game. For example, you could comment that a player was lurking while actively posting in other games, and try to draw conclusions from it. Going any further into events in other games was of course not allowed. I have also seen a player being spotted online and leaving without posting being viewed as suspicious.