TM 2023 | Open: PYP S_TM | Endgame

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Vote Count 1.10

Marashu (4): Staeg, Menalque, Cephrir, Rad
Lady Lambdadelta (3): Ythan, imaginality, Bellaphant
Rad (1): Marashu
Bellaphant (1): Datisi
Cephrir (1): Gimli
Gimli (1): Alisae
imaginality (1): mith

Not Voting (1): Lady Lambdadelta

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to eliminate.

Deadline is April 27 at 10:00 PM PST, in (expired on 2023-04-28 01:00:00).

[Datisi]

okay yeah the more i look at my last post the more i like it

he argued earlier in the game that there isn't anyone else he'd like to vote more than marashu, so he didn't vote anyone

but lld is scummy for actually voting marashu and "refusing to progress the game"

VOTE: rad

[Ythan]

I really want to lim both Rad and Mara but they're near definitely not scum together

@Ythan

Ythan, I'm confused about your read progression on LLD - at the time of your vote LLD indeed hadn't given much substance to her theory argument, but through all the good and bad arguments LLD gives afterwards you don't seem to move much at all. I gather that you're not fond of her reaction to the vote and that more theory arguments swing and miss, but what is the thing that she's doing which is actually suspicious?

(I don't have strong takes on the extended battle beyond not getting how as either alignment LLD and Ythan keep talking past each other)

This might be me failing at reading comprehension but I have absolutely no idea what you think about anyone at all in the game right now except maybe Bella scum and possibly LLD because your vote's stuck there

(sort of related side point: I assume that some of you are getting something out of the proxy-reads like "ah yes let me channel the spirit of the great Titus to impart entirely orthogonal reads onto the thread" but my eyes glaze over)

I actually haven't dived into Bella-scum that's just a team read, my number two would be Ali.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

This is different, it feels different.

god i wish i could see into your thought process

So let's start at the top. Tone wise, Marashu's post commits a cardinal sin for mafia players in that it reads consistently unsure of himself the WHOLE way through.

I'm also kind of tonally TR'ing this slot but apparently that's dangerous to do.

Bellaphant - I didn't mind Bella's entrance, but I dunno. Something seemed a bit off during the recent exchange with LLD. That might just be frustration, though?
Menalque - Nothing really stood out, both when reading the game and when doing an ISO (because I couldn't really remember anything of note)

I'm a bit unsure on this slot but it's this high because my team is TR'ing Ythan.

these are from his townread pool, and all read like he's trying to convince himself it's true which will never convince anyone you believe yourself.

And I just don't think Marashu is enough invested in this game to go the triple wifom level of 5 head where he goes purposefully uncertain to make people think he's detached and justify bad reads becuase ti needs like 2 layers of irony to be able to be true.

So tonally he's picked the worst thing he could do which reads town because he's not thinking about how he comes off and so his confusion looks real. Especially when he later critiques Rad for fence sitting.

Intent wise, let's just look at what the reads are stacked on, just names

Alisae
Ythan
LLD
Mith

Ceph

Datisi

Bella
Mena


Imaginality


Staeg
Rad
Gimli

This is the spacing he used for his reads. First of all, the spacing indicates that he is thinking about confidence levels for reads a lot more than just "here are some catagories, here are some piles" It's interesting because even if I ignore the words I can sort of get a picture of his world view? And in a weird way, it aligns with mine. Like, if you drew a line below Datisi and above Bella, you'd have "the people I think are currently townie" and "the people I am worried about"

Different groupings, different order but... it's there.

So we've got conscious forethought on grouping and reads, ignoring how he wrote them, a semi mind meld on current game headspace, read wise.

This looks like a solving townie.

Then, let's look at what he accomplishes INTENT wise with this post. He sticks on his same vote and doesn't show a new progression because his other scum reads are in top 4 and he's locked out from voting there. He runs into the same thing that got ME yelled at of the line being cut off at 4 so we're voting 5. He saw people react to that in thread, if he's scum I'm sure, so why do the exact same thing. Motivationally, it makes no sense and only makes him look worse. It also limits his ability to flex onto another slot if one slot looks like it won't die. It's Rad or bust for him today. He can't just vote me at this point without looking hyper suspicious. MAYBE Imaginality but....

Neither of those 2 have a WAGON. Marashu is saying "yes I'm sticking to this I know I'm slated to die but I will stick to my sole vote wagon and not make a reasonable counter wagon I can attack and push to survive.

Survivalism is NAI because both aligments want to live.

But only ONE alignment is okay making moves that consign them to death without any real payoff to speak of.

Intent wise I just don't get what he accomlishes with this. Scum need some forethought of what their reads list will do. This... doesn't do ANYTHING. If they're scum it honestly possibly spills more than it should because it does't save him and if he's town it doesn't say enough TO save him.

Like.... if this is scum, they said "let me do a bunch of spewing that is actually kind of interpretable but not enough work to save myself in any capacity".

It just.... doesn't make sense. Nothing about this makes sense from a scum perspective but if I look at it like "why would a townie do this"

in tone in mechanical/solving in intent and gamestate upkeep.... it's town!

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I really want to lim both Rad and Mara but they're near definitely not scum together

@Ythan

Ythan, I'm confused about your read progression on LLD - at the time of your vote LLD indeed hadn't given much substance to her theory argument, but through all the good and bad arguments LLD gives afterwards you don't seem to move much at all. I gather that you're not fond of her reaction to the vote and that more theory arguments swing and miss, but what is the thing that she's doing which is actually suspicious?

(I don't have strong takes on the extended battle beyond not getting how as either alignment LLD and Ythan keep talking past each other)

This might be me failing at reading comprehension but I have absolutely no idea what you think about anyone at all in the game right now except maybe Bella scum and possibly LLD because your vote's stuck there

(sort of related side point: I assume that some of you are getting something out of the proxy-reads like "ah yes let me channel the spirit of the great Titus to impart entirely orthogonal reads onto the thread" but my eyes glaze over)

I actually haven't dived into Bella-scum that's just a team read, my number two would be Ali.

to be clear you still think I'm scum at this point?

[Staeg]

I need to interact with Staeg more, is what this is telling me, actually

Love to hear it, start here:

Staeg's takes on me are... I mean staeg is right and I don't like killing people who will generally kill me but I just don't have a townread on them and I'm not getting a townie intent like i otherwise might

I'm slow or something which specific takes are you talking about and is the "will generally kill me" some meta thing I'm forgetting?

[mith]

Huh? I also mentioned what?

If Marashu comes back with the same bare minimum of substance, I will almost certainly move my vote there; and if Marashu comes back with a bunch of content, hopefully that will make the slot easy to read.

This equates to "they're scummy but i don't wanna flip there"? Methinks your reading comprehension is in the toilet with Alisae's.

I didn't have any strong reason to read him either way on the basis of a few posts before disappearing. If it became clear that he was lurking, diescumdie. I was neither saying "they're scummy" nor "i don't wanna flip there"; my read was contingent on whether and how he returned, and my willingness to flip someone is almost entirely in sync with my read.

As it stands now, I need to catch up on his return. The backlog of reads I need to do continues to grow. [previewedit]as does the thread[/previewedit]

[Ythan]

I really want to lim both Rad and Mara but they're near definitely not scum together

@Ythan

Ythan, I'm confused about your read progression on LLD - at the time of your vote LLD indeed hadn't given much substance to her theory argument, but through all the good and bad arguments LLD gives afterwards you don't seem to move much at all. I gather that you're not fond of her reaction to the vote and that more theory arguments swing and miss, but what is the thing that she's doing which is actually suspicious?

(I don't have strong takes on the extended battle beyond not getting how as either alignment LLD and Ythan keep talking past each other)

This might be me failing at reading comprehension but I have absolutely no idea what you think about anyone at all in the game right now except maybe Bella scum and possibly LLD because your vote's stuck there

(sort of related side point: I assume that some of you are getting something out of the proxy-reads like "ah yes let me channel the spirit of the great Titus to impart entirely orthogonal reads onto the thread" but my eyes glaze over)

I actually haven't dived into Bella-scum that's just a team read, my number two would be Ali.

to be clear you still think I'm scum at this point?

I do~ <3

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I need to interact with Staeg more, is what this is telling me, actually

Love to hear it, start here:

Staeg's takes on me are... I mean staeg is right and I don't like killing people who will generally kill me but I just don't have a townread on them and I'm not getting a townie intent like i otherwise might

I'm slow or something which specific takes are you talking about and is the "will generally kill me" some meta thing I'm forgetting?

oh, i misspoke

I think that is supposed to be "I don't generally like killing people who won't kill me, generally" I... I can't read that post any other way, it's super backwards. I don't know what my brain did there but it's definitely meant to be "Staeg has me town and I really shouldn't antagonize people who townread me but I'm not getting townie intent from the townread on me like I otherwise might".

Sorry

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I really want to lim both Rad and Mara but they're near definitely not scum together

@Ythan

Ythan, I'm confused about your read progression on LLD - at the time of your vote LLD indeed hadn't given much substance to her theory argument, but through all the good and bad arguments LLD gives afterwards you don't seem to move much at all. I gather that you're not fond of her reaction to the vote and that more theory arguments swing and miss, but what is the thing that she's doing which is actually suspicious?

(I don't have strong takes on the extended battle beyond not getting how as either alignment LLD and Ythan keep talking past each other)

This might be me failing at reading comprehension but I have absolutely no idea what you think about anyone at all in the game right now except maybe Bella scum and possibly LLD because your vote's stuck there

(sort of related side point: I assume that some of you are getting something out of the proxy-reads like "ah yes let me channel the spirit of the great Titus to impart entirely orthogonal reads onto the thread" but my eyes glaze over)

I actually haven't dived into Bella-scum that's just a team read, my number two would be Ali.

to be clear you still think I'm scum at this point?

I do~ <3

have you bothered to read anything else that has happened this game, or is this just like "I want to be right about catching LLD day 1 so I'm going to marry myself to this and never let doubt creep in".

[Cephrir]

Personally, I think Marashu's reads were dogshit and surface level garbage that barely said anything about anything.

But do you know what they weren't?

Coached.

lmao true

Marashu comes in here and goes

"I'm tripling down on Rad and have suspicions in Gimli and Staeg but they're top 4 so I won't"

How in the fuck is that how scum responds here? Scum has to find a path forward to look good to survive.

Scum might lurk or beg off and say it's harder right now but Marashu comes in with a full reads list full of awfully justified reads and sticks back into Rad.

I might be insane, I really might be, cause those posts are bad but I think Marashu's play doesn't make sense for scum and Rad and Bella's positioning around the wagon are suspicious, ESPECIALLY Rad's.

i don't want this to be right frick

Datisi Marashu Ythan Mith has at most 1 scum in it and probably zero is my current thought at the top of my town reads.

why are you townreading datisi?

[Datisi]

oh god, i didn't mean to make you write all of that out lld i was just half thinking outloud ahaha but thank you! i appreciate it and i understand what you mean now

Intent wise I just don't get what he accomlishes with this. Scum need some forethought of what their reads list will do. This... doesn't do ANYTHING. If they're scum it honestly possibly spills more than it should because it does't save him and if he's town it doesn't say enough TO save him.

there's still a few neurons in my brain saying that scum-marashu could potentially do something like this, but i'll stop talking out of my ass before actually checking that ig

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Personally, I think Marashu's reads were dogshit and surface level garbage that barely said anything about anything.

But do you know what they weren't?

Coached.

lmao true

Marashu comes in here and goes

"I'm tripling down on Rad and have suspicions in Gimli and Staeg but they're top 4 so I won't"

How in the fuck is that how scum responds here? Scum has to find a path forward to look good to survive.

Scum might lurk or beg off and say it's harder right now but Marashu comes in with a full reads list full of awfully justified reads and sticks back into Rad.

I might be insane, I really might be, cause those posts are bad but I think Marashu's play doesn't make sense for scum and Rad and Bella's positioning around the wagon are suspicious, ESPECIALLY Rad's.

i don't want this to be right frick

Datisi Marashu Ythan Mith has at most 1 scum in it and probably zero is my current thought at the top of my town reads.

why are you townreading datisi?

Is it took late for me to say I don't explain townreads after deep diving into the Marashu one? lol

Datisi's thought progression feels real. The things I was doing to try and read datisi were designed to let me coax some of his brain waves from him and the results didn't matter as much as the.... progression from them did.

And Datisi's progressions and posts have read town to me.

[Cephrir]

Also, apparently Menalque has made 56 posts and has made absolutely no impact on me. I would not have remembered that he called me town several times if I hadn't just ISO'd it. Need to take a closer look there.

same here.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Ceph I really want you to be town this game

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Ceph what do you think of my marashu town case

[Bellaphant]

...I really like it.

[Bellaphant]

UNVOTE:

Ffs

[Cephrir]

it is marinating in my brain

i just asked fen out loud a few minutes ago what the point of mafia is anymore if we're so many layers of wifom deep that you're out here going to bat for that post basically because it sucks too much to come from scum

that doesn't mean i disagree, just.... lmao. it definitely isn't coached! i think marashu is lhf as either side, like he didn't exactly wow me with his scum game in anything upick

i want to vote for rad. but fen thinks rad is town (after just isoing him, not engaging with any cases), and i dont want to discount that fully. i won't stand in the way but i want to care about his take

VOTE: imaginality

[Staeg]

Alisae seems to me like she's on designer drugs

What gives you this impression?

Posts like 956 where you see a potential connection which to me feels

inspired

; the rapid swapping between potential scumteams to see what angle, frame, picture most fits or follows from non-overlapping assumptions; the Joker energy in 730 and, of course, the response to the questions on soft mechanics/theory being a whimsical lol felt like it give me the on-drugs impression
To be clear, this is town leaning if anything and I often appreciate it happening in thread (esp in the recentish LLD interaction), but it also makes me not that interested in your takes on setup mechanics

[Staeg]

LLD I don't agree with your towncase on Mara at all - you raise some good points like the spacing indicating actual grouping indicating progression/looking for alignments, but I feel that it's vastly overshadowed by how safe every single one of those reads is given where the wind's blowing (which I expect is +you, -me, -Gimli, -Rad) - even imaginality is placed in range! (also I find this case outstandingly understandable, 0 cases of "eldritch LLD concept coming through beep beep")
This reminds me, you were saying some time ago that you're the backup lynch option for today or sth and I neither had nor have any idea what you're talking about, I don't see how you're actually getting lynched today in any world

Now what

would

convince me of Mara!town is... the other two competing wagons... being scum... hm............

[Staeg]

I need to interact with Staeg more, is what this is telling me, actually

Love to hear it, start here:

Staeg's takes on me are... I mean staeg is right and I don't like killing people who will generally kill me but I just don't have a townread on them and I'm not getting a townie intent like i otherwise might

I'm slow or something which specific takes are you talking about and is the "will generally kill me" some meta thing I'm forgetting?

oh, i misspoke

I think that is supposed to be "I don't generally like killing people who won't kill me, generally" I... I can't read that post any other way, it's super backwards. I don't know what my brain did there but it's definitely meant to be "Staeg has me town and I really shouldn't antagonize people who townread me but I'm not getting townie intent from the townread on me like I otherwise might".

Sorry

Understood, but where were you getting that I'm townreading you up until last post which hadn't happened yet? I could be misremembering but I thought I was wringing my hands of the entire concept for now so I can ask Fate what your alignment is later

[Staeg]

yo, I'll be around more later today, weed day yesterday + one of my busiest days at work just ate up all my time!

I still want to hear about that Marashu vote fwiw, why'd it happen when it did instead of earlier?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I need to interact with Staeg more, is what this is telling me, actually

Love to hear it, start here:

Staeg's takes on me are... I mean staeg is right and I don't like killing people who will generally kill me but I just don't have a townread on them and I'm not getting a townie intent like i otherwise might

I'm slow or something which specific takes are you talking about and is the "will generally kill me" some meta thing I'm forgetting?

oh, i misspoke

I think that is supposed to be "I don't generally like killing people who won't kill me, generally" I... I can't read that post any other way, it's super backwards. I don't know what my brain did there but it's definitely meant to be "Staeg has me town and I really shouldn't antagonize people who townread me but I'm not getting townie intent from the townread on me like I otherwise might".

Sorry

Understood, but where were you getting that I'm townreading you up until last post which hadn't happened yet? I could be misremembering but I thought I was wringing my hands of the entire concept for now so I can ask Fate what your alignment is later

let me go read your old posts, i'm literally guessing at what I meant here, because whatever I wrote here makes 0 sense and that's the only thing that made sense.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD I don't agree with your towncase on Mara at all - you raise some good points like the spacing indicating actual grouping indicating progression/looking for alignments, but I feel that it's vastly overshadowed by how safe every single one of those reads is given where the wind's blowing (which I expect is +you, -me, -Gimli, -Rad) - even imaginality is placed in range! (also I find this case outstandingly understandable, 0 cases of "eldritch LLD concept coming through beep beep")
This reminds me, you were saying some time ago that you're the backup lynch option for today or sth and I neither had nor have any idea what you're talking about, I don't see how you're actually getting lynched today in any world

Now what

would

convince me of Mara!town is... the other two competing wagons... being scum... hm............

You don't think I'm on the block for today?

My understanding of the gamestate going into the posts I made was that I had Ythan Bella Imaginality and Rad all leaning towards me and a bunch of people who felt fairly strongly they couldn't read me confidently.

like Mith had sus on me, Ceph is worried about me

that's already 6 people.

I think I'm trending up a lot more recently, I agree, I'm a lot less killable now than I was maybe 48 hours ago.