Micro 1078: Datisi's micro normals are back [game over]

[Datisi]

vote count 1.04

with 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-05-05 22:00:16).

yeet

fireisredsir [3]:

VP Baltar, Meuh, osuka

Skygazer [2]:

hellbooks, Ausuka

Ausuka [2]:

skitter30, Skygazer

hellbooks [1]:

tris

skitter30 [1]:

fireisredsir

not voting [0]:

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[VP Baltar]

I don't understand what you're talking about

You're saying there is a difference, and I asked to elaboratable that point because i dont understand how anyone could read the post i quoted differently ... and well here we are.

[VP Baltar]

but mostly just vibes ig

What is my vibe

[Ausuka]

I don't understand what you're talking about

You're saying there is a difference, and I asked to elaboratable that point because i dont understand how anyone could read the post i quoted differently ... and well here we are.

Who said anything about 'regardless of alignment'? If you roll scum, against a player you just played scum with, is it really so ridiculous to think maybe you would try and see if you could use that to your advantage at some point?

[Ausuka]

i think there's a p strong difference between me remembering you have a really strong town game and me not remembering what your town meta is like

I think after coming back and seeing that after three years of neither of us playing on this site, my scum game is incredibly different to how it used to be, town skygazer probably interacts with my meta very differently to what you have done

is this elaboratable

I think you would be more likely to either steer clear of meta or read my more recent town games

I don't think you really try and use my old meta in this way

[Ausuka]

I think you were planning to use that at some point and jumped at the opportunity even when it didn't fit all that well

The post i made was like maybe somewhat defensive but the idea that I wouldn't say something like that as town is pretty ???

I also think when you said I was great at town, you didn't really believe that and were saying it because it was conducive to a d1 push on me, and that's backed up by you seeming to have like no idea about my town game and admitting as such.

So you think sky came into this game planning to push you? Not sure how else to understanf the first paragraph

I think that if you come into a game having just been scum with someone, and then you roll scum against them, I think it's very plausible you have ideas of how to use that against them?

i can't decide if this is town-you being paranoid or scum-you reaching

i feel like this is too early so it's concerning that you're treating this as some sort of "super serious push" and assigning scum motivation behind it when i am simply focusing on sorting players i know wellish

I don't feel like you are applying this standard of 'reading scum motivation into things early' consistently? I think it's a pretty normal thing to at least think about in the early game

[Ausuka]

I think you were planning to use that at some point and jumped at the opportunity even when it didn't fit all that well

The post i made was like maybe somewhat defensive but the idea that I wouldn't say something like that as town is pretty ???

I also think when you said I was great at town, you didn't really believe that and were saying it because it was conducive to a d1 push on me, and that's backed up by you seeming to have like no idea about my town game and admitting as such.

So you think sky came into this game planning to push you? Not sure how else to understanf the first paragraph

I think that if you come into a game having just been scum with someone, and then you roll scum against them, I think it's very plausible you have ideas of how to use that against them?

Well, how convinced are you that sky is scum here?

I think she's the scummiest player here, i'm not saying she's like definitely scum or something

[skitter30]

- has that affected your read on me?
- i'm having a hard time understanding your approach to sky here ngl

[Meuh]

id rather not elaborate yet bc it's sort of one of those things that is dependent on a pattern of behavior and it's a little early to call out exactly what ive seen so far and how it compares to my expectations bc it's a sort of small sample of posts and maybe im wrong and saying it allows him to adjust. ill tell u later tho shhh

what the fuck is this? either you have something or you don't. if you do, then you should just point it out and if you don't and it's "dependent on a pattern of behavior" then you shouldn't come off so strong because then you'd just make whoever it is you're talking about very acutely aware of the fact that you're watching them closely. this is either horseshit disguised as townposting or just kind of stupid, but i can't immediately tell which

it's definitely kind of stupid but i was just having fun sorry :<

i appreciate your feedback however i am satisfied with my current level of elaboration of my take on baltar!!

I was about to vote for Fire after rereading this post, but turns out I already am!

[tris]

Also no, i don't think she was *afraid* of the wagon at all, but this post had a lot of anxious vibes and that's ehat pinged - i don't think town would be anxious, and that was a strange clause at the end ...

what is the difference between being afraid of the wagon and being anxious?

[Meuh]

id rather not elaborate yet bc it's sort of one of those things that is dependent on a pattern of behavior and it's a little early to call out exactly what ive seen so far and how it compares to my expectations bc it's a sort of small sample of posts and maybe im wrong and saying it allows him to adjust. ill tell u later tho shhh

what the fuck is this? either you have something or you don't. if you do, then you should just point it out and if you don't and it's "dependent on a pattern of behavior" then you shouldn't come off so strong because then you'd just make whoever it is you're talking about very acutely aware of the fact that you're watching them closely. this is either horseshit disguised as townposting or just kind of stupid, but i can't immediately tell which

it's definitely kind of stupid but i was just having fun sorry :<

i appreciate your feedback however i am satisfied with my current level of elaboration of my take on baltar!!

I was about to vote for Fire after rereading this post, but turns out I already am!

The specific wording of "my take on Baltar" bothers me, it doesn't feel like the way someone actually talks about their reads?

[Meuh]

puzzling take on "elaboratable", despite that not actually being a real word. please expound

youre asking me to expound on THAT of all things? on superstition? as if one could explain the mechanism by which throwing salt over ones shoulder leads to good luck? to use one of my precious remaining goon posts on something like THAT? no!!!! i shant!!!! i shant use one of my posts on such frivolous matters!!!! Did you not hear me make known my dire predicaments? Then hear me now!!!! each one of my remaining Precious Posts is a little baby that i must nurture with focused and earnest hands into a highly serious, aesthetically towny, and exclusively game-advancing endeavor! so no!!!! i shall not be expounding!!!! For such a thing is not, as the zoomer nonsensites say, "elaboratable" !!!!

Townie alert!!!!

[tris]

why does everyone think that post is towny?

[Meuh]

Is there more to the ausuka sus?

@baltar this post pinged
A lot actually

VOTE: osuka

I want to live!!!!!!!

There's a little too much of a real 'don't wagon me!!!!' vibe to this post that i don't like

Like the osuka/ausuka thing was a meme obv, and it's fine that she's participating in that, but the 'i want to live!!!!' rider feels a little too anxious in a way that i think scum might be here

I think i would like this post a lot more without that line, or if there was something else there instead. The 'i want to live' feels v out of place with the state of the game at this point

this is kinda interesting bc i also had a strong gut reaction to that ausuka post but the explanation isn't really my thought process at all

im not sure if that actually means anything tho

i do think its a similar gut feeling i had to some of her posts early in dance game (which was wrong) so im sort of unsure how much i want to commit to that feeling

can you elaborate on this at all? what was your thought process behind your gut reaction to the ausuka post?

its the less fun part to elaborate on but fine

it is still elaboratable. one could say. i wouldn't, personally. but someone might

my thought process was "hm this post feels a little unsure of itself and also a hint of feeling like it could be posting for the sake of being in the thread early but also not really sticking around to engage". i thought it was a little scummy. then i thought about it more and decided that those vibes were wrong when i felt them in a previous game where ausuka was town

i didn't really get any vibes of her actually being anxious about wanting to live

I kind of like the mention of the past game since that's definitely a consideration for me when reading Ausuka's posts. This post overall doesn't really move me too much though

[tris]

VOTE: skitter

[Meuh]

osuka's take on Fire's posts around the time he made them line up a lot with my feelings which is nice
Leaning town there

[Meuh]

id rather not elaborate yet bc it's sort of one of those things that is dependent on a pattern of behavior and it's a little early to call out exactly what ive seen so far and how it compares to my expectations bc it's a sort of small sample of posts and maybe im wrong and saying it allows him to adjust. ill tell u later tho shhh

what the fuck is this? either you have something or you don't. if you do, then you should just point it out and if you don't and it's "dependent on a pattern of behavior" then you shouldn't come off so strong because then you'd just make whoever it is you're talking about very acutely aware of the fact that you're watching them closely. this is either horseshit disguised as townposting or just kind of stupid, but i can't immediately tell which

Like, on the one hand, this is kind of a BS reason from fire...the reason it is BS being that fire has a mediocre track record of reading me correctly and I've kind of barely done anything this game yet.

Osuka jumps in and attacks its vagueryness...which is not only the wrong reason to dislike that fire post, it's worth about as much as the poop he wants to put in my pants (not much). Fire can be vague, but the "oh I have a VP read from nothing" is the actual sus part.

But if Fire knows they aren't particularly good at reading you, wouldn't it then make more sense for them to be reserved on their feeling on you? Isn't it natural for them to decide to wait for something more substantive before outing the read completely,

because

of this track record?

[tris]

@skitter: what didn't you like about 102?

[tris]

id rather not elaborate yet bc it's sort of one of those things that is dependent on a pattern of behavior and it's a little early to call out exactly what ive seen so far and how it compares to my expectations bc it's a sort of small sample of posts and maybe im wrong and saying it allows him to adjust. ill tell u later tho shhh

what the fuck is this? either you have something or you don't. if you do, then you should just point it out and if you don't and it's "dependent on a pattern of behavior" then you shouldn't come off so strong because then you'd just make whoever it is you're talking about very acutely aware of the fact that you're watching them closely. this is either horseshit disguised as townposting or just kind of stupid, but i can't immediately tell which

Like, on the one hand, this is kind of a BS reason from fire...the reason it is BS being that fire has a mediocre track record of reading me correctly and I've kind of barely done anything this game yet.

Osuka jumps in and attacks its vagueryness...which is not only the wrong reason to dislike that fire post, it's worth about as much as the poop he wants to put in my pants (not much). Fire can be vague, but the "oh I have a VP read from nothing" is the actual sus part.

But if Fire knows they aren't particularly good at reading you, wouldn't it then make more sense for them to be reserved on their feeling on you? Isn't it natural for them to decide to wait for something more substantive before outing the read completely,

because

of this track record?

that wasn't the reason fire gave for holding it back.

[Meuh]

Spoiler:

actually yk i think maybe it is meaningful

VOTE: skitter

?

i think it's meaningful because i think it's a stretch for you to believe this specifically:

There's a little too much of a real 'don't wagon me!!!!' vibe to this post that i don't like

i think its v plausible that the post would ping you. i think that you'd recognize it as a potentially ping-y post as either alignment bc you're able to do that. but i think the way you talked about it feels like making it into a bigger deal than it is and overjustifying

if you had just said "this post pings me because it feels a little anxious", yeah sure i can agree. but adding on the bit about her being afraid of a real wagon is like... really? you think ausuka would really be that afraid of an rvs wagon in like post 6?

so my thought process on seeing it was thinking that a world where you knew the post was ping-y but maybe didn't quite know why and still decided to come up with something to connect point a and b felt more like something you'd do as scum than something you'd do as town

maybe this is dumb and just a case of you seeing something different in the post than i do and me arrogantly thinking my read on it is the more reasonable one and so therefore you're more likely to be scum

but also scum skitter misreads tone in jokey posts etc etc

idk its not that significant of a read but it was like the first real thing i noticed and i was feeling it in the moment

I like this one actually, thought process feels townie

[tris]

i agree

[Meuh]

id rather not elaborate yet bc it's sort of one of those things that is dependent on a pattern of behavior and it's a little early to call out exactly what ive seen so far and how it compares to my expectations bc it's a sort of small sample of posts and maybe im wrong and saying it allows him to adjust. ill tell u later tho shhh

what the fuck is this? either you have something or you don't. if you do, then you should just point it out and if you don't and it's "dependent on a pattern of behavior" then you shouldn't come off so strong because then you'd just make whoever it is you're talking about very acutely aware of the fact that you're watching them closely. this is either horseshit disguised as townposting or just kind of stupid, but i can't immediately tell which

Like, on the one hand, this is kind of a BS reason from fire...the reason it is BS being that fire has a mediocre track record of reading me correctly and I've kind of barely done anything this game yet.

Osuka jumps in and attacks its vagueryness...which is not only the wrong reason to dislike that fire post, it's worth about as much as the poop he wants to put in my pants (not much). Fire can be vague, but the "oh I have a VP read from nothing" is the actual sus part.

But if Fire knows they aren't particularly good at reading you, wouldn't it then make more sense for them to be reserved on their feeling on you? Isn't it natural for them to decide to wait for something more substantive before outing the read completely,

because

of this track record?

that wasn't the reason fire gave for holding it back.

Hmm?
I mean the justification Fire gave is wanting a larger sample size (I think interpreting this as wanting something more substantive is fair?) to see if a pattern held up. Or are you saying that Fire not wanting to out the read because of their track record was not reasoning given? Which like yeah it wasn't, but I don't have a hard time believing that it could still be a factor.

Fire gets thoughts on Baltar -> Fire gets a bit of doubt about it because of past record (either consciously or more of a subtle doubt because of those past games) -> Fire decides to be careful with their reads and wants an extra set of posts to get a stronger feeling

Is not an unlikely chain of events to me and I don't think Fire having doubts on their ability to read Baltar will be inherently voiced.

[VP Baltar]

I don't understand what you're talking about

You're saying there is a difference, and I asked to elaboratable that point because i dont understand how anyone could read the post i quoted differently ... and well here we are.

Who said anything about 'regardless of alignment'? If you roll scum, against a player you just played scum with, is it really so ridiculous to think maybe you would try and see if you could use that to your advantage at some point?

You said star was "planning" to use it against you. I guess it just feels a bit like circular logic to me. I asked regardless of alignment because the alignment is actually a really important thing to consider when weighing a person's criticisms against you, but you seem to be working from a start and end point of star!scum.

[VP Baltar]

i think there's a p strong difference between me remembering you have a really strong town game and me not remembering what your town meta is like

I think after coming back and seeing that after three years of neither of us playing on this site, my scum game is incredibly different to how it used to be, town skygazer probably interacts with my meta very differently to what you have done

is this elaboratable

I think you would be more likely to either steer clear of meta or read my more recent town games

I don't think you really try and use my old meta in this way

Noting this feels like a bit of a better explanation of your thought process than what you were giving me.

[Meuh]

submitting to the court that sharing a dream one has, that also happens to position one as town-minded, is another documented hellbrooks scum tactic ! Its not the dream im worried over but the manner in which she chose to share it. remember we are sirens, and posting is our song. Also, lets simply highlight ausuka's read on skitter if only so that people will keep it in their minds that it was made, and the timing lf it. so that she may take responsibility for it if the time comes. Finally i would like to thank you all for the salvo of townreads. Peace and Love

Wow I'm town though... I bet you're jealous you didn't have sleep as scrumptious as mine