Micro 1078: Datisi's micro normals are back [game over]

[Datisi]

vote count 1.13

with 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-05-05 22:00:16).

yeet

VP Baltar [3]:

Skygazer, Meuh, Ausuka

osuka [3]:

hellbooks, fireisredsir, skitter30

Meuh [2]:

VP Baltar, osuka

skitter30 [1]:

tris

not voting [0]:

mod notes

skitter30 is v/la fridays and saturdays.
VP Baltar semi-v/la friday through monday.
this is a mod note.

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[skitter30]

@meuh in 634 you kinda sound like your justifying an osuka vote to urself

Probably since a good chunk of that post are things I noticed when writing it and not beliefs I held coming into it, so it was more just writing down my thought process there than anything else

>.>

whats wrong with that

it sounds like she didnt come up for the reasons of why she didnt like 627/628 until 634

[osuka]

i do think brexiting ausuka is not the play today

im fine with this for now

[skitter30]

Honestly skimming osuka's iso i'm not sure why i find him scummy other than vibes

VOTE: hellbooks

[tris]

and i just dont like her pool of townreads at all tbh.

whys that

[Skygazer]

VOTE: hellbooks

sure

[tris]

i want to scumread osuka, but for reasons that are probably not valid. i just don't like reading his posts

Is this elaboratable

idk i dont really feel like expounding upon something that is ultimately me not vibing with someones playstyle. i dont think its alignment indicative

[skitter30]

Tris why are u voting me btw

[Ausuka]

anyway uh idk if i want to wagon hellbooks? I don't think she like Can't Be Scum or whatever but i haven't really had many pings from her and her posting at least seems, like, something where I can look at it and be like "uh huh yeah ok town can think that" like the tris push which I think is kind of fun and good

[Ausuka]

i want to scumread osuka, but for reasons that are probably not valid. i just don't like reading his posts

Is this elaboratable

idk i dont really feel like expounding upon something that is ultimately me not vibing with someones playstyle. i dont think its alignment indicative

Fair enough, i thought it was not like reading his posts in a game related way but one you weren't certain about

[osuka]

possibly for the first time in this game, i wholeheartedly agree with ausuka here

[osuka]

pedit: i got ninjad, i meant about 708 not 709

[tris]

Honestly skimming osuka's iso i'm not sure why i find him scummy other than vibes

yeah this

[Skygazer]

incredible

[tris]

Tris why are u voting me btw

i cant figure out who to vote,

[tris]

what is the reason for the hellbrooks wagon?

[tris]

possibly for the first time in this game, i wholeheartedly agree with ausuka here

whats your read on her?

[Skygazer]

what is the reason for the hellbrooks wagon?

poe/sheeping skitter

[tris]

i will need to revisit my thoughts on skitter but that needs to be a day 2 thing i think?

[skitter30]

Tris why are u voting me btw

i cant figure out who to vote,

Poe + don't like the current options + the game is stalling + nobody really wants to vote my preferred wagon + hellbooks is pinging me and i don't have a read on her + i want to see what happens

[skitter30]

possibly for the first time in this game, i wholeheartedly agree with ausuka here

Also i thinj this is townie

[tris]

VOTE: hell b.

[tris]

possibly for the first time in this game, i wholeheartedly agree with ausuka here

Also i thinj this is townie

hmm, i thought that too

[Meuh]

Hellbooks/Baltar sned post

No one has asked but yes I WILL elaborate on this
Warning: I strongly believe Baltar is scum so a lot of the stuff in this hinges on that
Hellbooks noticeably avoided mentioning Baltar on page 26 which made me start to think...
I'll get to those posts later, though.

Spoiler:

Working on a ten pages google doc chainsawing baltar

hellbooks: i looked at ur post history and i'm like 95% sure we've met irl !!!

well that's not creepy

What do you mean it was at the pre-game scum mixer event.... u were there too if i recall

I don't associate with people, so now I know you're a liar.

hey, VP Baltar. am i zoomer nonsense or not?

Vote baltar -> you are zoomer nonsense
Do not -> you are not

sorry you all gonna trust BALTAR over ME????? THAT GUY????? I SAW HIM AT THE SCUM MIXER

I ... THE SCUM

OMG SHE ADMIT IT

A lot of early jokey interactions, the chainsaw comment may seem too bold to come from partners but I will say that very early on, partners are acutely aware of each other and are looking to distance ASAP, a joking comment of that sort could very well fit into this.

when i saw the skitter vote i was like oh yea baby. that like makes a beautiful and wonderous amount of sense for you to do right now and i like it. on the other hand, the baltar spoiler is kind of word for word some shit i would say as scum to put forth the image of having a forward thinking and productively minded thought process

The first instance of Hellbooks/Baltar interacting more seriously, with Hellbooks disliking Fire's spoiler on Baltar. Notably no actual statement on Baltar himself since Hellbooks is attacking Fire more than anything, but I do still find this worth of note. Scum enjoy sneaking mentions of each other and involving themselves in situations where the other is present without directly speaking of their partner.

I find the fire, skitter, ausuka, osuka group has something off and I can't quite put my finger on it. It's like a series of overreactions that contribute to the next. To be fair to ausuka, she's just kind of there, so would love her take on those other three specifically.

Hellbrooks is maybe millennial.

Baltar keeps the joking tone towards Hellbooks which is... questionable? Baltar's tone when interacting with Hellbooks vs with others feels like a mismatch thus far.

why does everyone think that post is towny?

I don't think think a particular post from hellbrooks is towny per se (though I'm sure I could dig in and better understand my own feeling here.) I think what's townie from brooks is the free wheeling vibe. There is a transparency of to her posting that reads to me like clearly saying things off the top of your head, which is a quality I generally associate with being town because you aren't afraid to say the wrong thing. Admittedly, I think brooks is cool and I'm susceptible to being too easily charmed by friendlies.

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Baltar's acute awareness of Hellbook's position in the game is like blegh...
What he's saying is accurate but this is the first solid stance either takes on the other and wow I do not like this one. The little sentence at the end where Baltar admits he may just be charmed also doesn't feel Baltery. This feels off, but so does like every other Baltar post?
This one got a good reception because the point he makes is accurate. I'd be interested in anyone else's (less skewed) analysis of this post because it looks partnery to me but I'm not sure if it's pure bias.

Current feeling: VPB/Osuka team, if town in there then scum in Skitter/Hellbooks
Rest can be town

Do you see alignment in those pairs or you just PoE'd the game?

I guess the specific hinging on pairs (and making VPB/osuka and Skitter/Hellbooks 2 distinct ones) could indicate he's partnered but I don't feel too strongly about this one.

what if we all just took a deep breath and a step back and then wagoned meuh
meuh, are you ok withthat ? just lmk

My preferred lim pool right now is actually [fire, ausuka, meuh]

Big hmm on this one. Might actually be slightly anti-partnery since this could be Baltar nudging someone towards committing to a vote on me (which he would not need to do if partnered) but I don't think is super meaningful?

Current feeling: VPB/Osuka team, if town in there then scum in Skitter/Hellbooks
Rest can be town

This post bugs the hell out of me, mostly. Meuh's obv pushing you, but idk how she sees Hellbrooks as your buddy.

Picking Osuka as my potential buddy also feels like "this person isn't really here".

I think I'm pretty townie this game.

And the rest are town? Sorry that is a silly take to me

Baltar keeps framing my scumpool as 2 separate pairs of VPB/Osuka and Skitter/Hellbooks which is inaccurate. While I hadn't explicitly clarified on this yet, I had made a post (309) that showed I viewed the 4 more as a whole group than a set of 2 pairs. Baltar who is paired with Hellbooks (or with Skitter but I don't think he is) has an incentive to frame my pool in this way since it then packages him and his partner in different groups.

Scum power rankings this game (definitive list):

(Town)
VP
Tris
Hellbrooks
Skitter
Osuka
Sky
Ausuka
Fire
Meuh
(Scum)

Note this is the second time Baltar even mentions his read on Hellbooks (here with no explanation in the slightest). I'd expect more by then.

This post bugs the hell out of me, mostly. Meuh's obv pushing you, but idk how she sees Hellbrooks as your buddy.

i dont actually know why its so implausible and i also think she said it waslike poe in response to you asking whethrer it was

what if we all just took a deep breath and a step back and then wagoned meuh
meuh, are you ok withthat ? just lmk

Ooh sounds fun

GRRRR RRRRUFFF BARK BARK GROWLLL AWOOOOO VOTE: meuh i hope thisisnt like hammering you im still 4 pages behind (alsopossible im already voting you and just forgor)

Hellbooks makes minor pushback on the logic Baltar uses still while not questioning his alignment or potential malintent in the slightest. Note that this is post 497 and Hellbooks still does not have an actual read on Baltar or even a semblance of an opinion on his alignment ever. This minor pushback of his logic is the closest thing to that, to which I say what the actual fuck?

Probably the latter since this post is incredibly disingenuous.
You want my vote on you instead, here you go!

i know this is sooooooooooo random but why is this towny to me
its a towny amount of exclamation marks and im not even being joking this time. mostly

i also like to use that word gestalt. ive been using it this whole time as a verb (like "this collection of posts gestalts a scum angle") which upon research seems to be incorrect but i think im going to keep doing it.

This is yuckyyyyyyyyyyy ewwwwwwwww grossssssssss whyyyyyyyyy
Hellbooks has not substantially commented on Baltar AT ALL but feels the need to point out how townie I look in a slight detail (that isn't even relevant to the point I'm making) of my post here. and like you'd need to properly understand the post to comment on me being town or not through it??? This is another of these atrocious indirect interactions that scum ADORE doing and it's horrendous
PLEASE JUST ENGAGE WITH BALTAR!!!!!!!!!!!

speaking of rvs i actualy made the baltar chainsaw gdoc and forgot to share it

Pretty sure Hellbooks realized "oh shit I have like no good interactions with my partner since page 2" a bit ago and is now compensating for that LMAOOO

VOTE: osuka
back in my pro-meuh era
i'd like to try and drum up some controversy by suggesting a shocking fire/baltar scum team

throws shade on Baltar, specifically through the lens of a conspiracy that no one will actually take seriously, with no actual commentary on Baltar still. Hellbooks puts Baltar in a fucking solve before actually stating any sort of relevant read on him??????
Also note the framing of being pro-Meuh to step off my wagon and go on Osuka (I don't recall there being real backing for Hellbooks to actually dot his?) despite Hellbooks' previous "pro-Meuh" comments were:
1. Lightly pushing back on Baltar's logic against me
2. Calling a meaningless part of one of my posts town indicative
This is also right after the 555 votecount which shows... Baltar and Hellbooks voting for me together.

over the course of the last page i totally started coming around to the zoomer nonsensites townreading ausuka. anyway, it feels like three people acting independently just coincidentally found themselves on vice principal baltar's wagon. i dont know what to make of that -- whether it tells a story about his alignment, or whether it's just a symptom of the lack of cohesion. but honestly, idk why fire isnt voting him too. E1 jitters?

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Hellbooks makes an actual comment on Baltar, wow!!! and it's a bunch of wishy-washy non-committal bs. wow!!! also makes sure to mention that the activity around the vpb wagon may just be a symptom of the gamestate and may actually mean nothing so she doesn't have to actually gather any conclusion here.

osuka wagon response is the tiniest bit town to me but maybe im too easily swayed by things as that
definitely down for a expeditious meuh pivot
honestly is tris not literally coasting scum
also do the skitter antis still feel that way and just moved on to bigger priorities

ahhahahaahha this post is so incredibly scummy I love it
No mention of the relevance of the Baltar wagon (which she would want to hop on if Baltar is in her solve? or she would mention not wanting to hop in if she doesn't want to, because the Baltar wagon is big and worth commenting on)
Wants to pivot back to me
Throws shade at Tris
Tries lighting the Skitter fire again
SOOO MANY distractions away from Baltar in a singular post, I'm not sure you could protect him better than this.

honestly ausuka also vanished after people stopped voting her

right -- honestly i think broadly speaking scum has more of an incentive to not vanish but such a thing is context dependent and i thoguht it was worth pointing out that maybe this fits into what the ausuka haters were saying regarding her play being reactive or whatever

if you go take a look at skygazers iso youll see that like over half of her posts are dedicated to chainsawing ausuka off of meta

which perversely i cant seem to help but townread

Okay a bunch of other posts just to make sure Hellbooks comments on everyone but Baltar

the real 10 page gdoc was the posts we made along the way

INDIRECT MENTION OF BALTAR ALERT woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Pedit:

it does feel like theres this sentiment of discomfort on going forward with osuka or meuh to its conclusion bc of their sluggish atmospheres. osuka and meuh have positioned themselves in opposition to each other, but not in a way thats like "i think this person is definitely scum and it's do or die time!" which i guess can be read as kind of a limp and self-conscious attempt at preservation, but its just like.... blah. you know. and everyone is like "yeah i GUESS we can lim one of them" which makes the wagons feel even weirder: like there's some sort of forces of opportunism for a miselim at play.

if even one person tells me that they think tris is playing within her scumrange i would place her as a top contender for limming, ... and i just dont like her pool of townreads at all tbh.

as for expounding on you, meuh, i dont know exactly what you want from me. looks like im just being fickle about you

ugh but then its like maybe people should just effing pick one and go for it no thoughts head empty and come back D2 with fresh eyes and minds just feels like everyones kind of at risk of burning out already bc of pace issue

HAHAHAHAH HOLY SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
Hellbooks makes sure not to mention the fucking Baltar wagon staring her right in the face???? mind you this man is literally the leading wagon and has more votes than I do at this time
BUT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
hellbooks has to frame this as Meuh vs Osuka when that's just... not very accurate?
and she desperately wants other people's approval to start a wagon on Tris to truly divert all attention away from Baltar
BUT THENNNNNNNNNNNNNN
hellbooks wants to make sure she can still safely vote for Osuka or I so she makes a second post to act all doubtful about it...
Also the wording in the last sentence of 685 is weird but that's minor

Honestly skimming osuka's iso i'm not sure why i find him scummy other than vibes

VOTE: hellbooks

VOTE: hellbooks

sure

VOTE: hell b.

Holy shit you guys started a Hellbooks wagon while I was writing this
fuck yeah
I will hop on if that's where we're headed but want to avoid E-1 for the moment

[Skygazer]

ngl a lot of the stuff in there comes across as "not partnered"