Open 878: Scarfolk Council | The End

[sheepsaysmeep]

iyam

theres scum in the recent pivot to dunnstral, even if enchant is town lol

because enchant seems perceptibly the objectively optimal lim today. via consensus reads + theyre not doing legit stuff

like Even if dunn is scummy and even if dunn is wolf lol, enchant should be resolved

the movement around is such a strange show-y response to enchant not being villagery

[sheepsaysmeep]

I might change my mind about that when I read back In-depth

I mainly just focused on enchant's posts lol

[sheepsaysmeep]

I was actually feeling weird about dunn lol

but like

not really interested in even pondering that rn

d1 is slugging

[Enchant]

Enchant can you claim?

Go hammer already i claimed long ago

VT

ToWnIE

[Dunnstral]

- I think this post would’ve been fine… if it was Dunn’s first post, but after “catching up” and commenting on activity levels, feels weird, not sure if this makes dunn scum, but like with this and above, I’m not really seeing how dunn would be town and make these posts

I didn't call lurkers scum or anything, did I? Not sure what your point is either.

Enchant, why are you voting for me?

Because i am not voting Andante and pretty sceptical about selfvoting.

I don't think this is a good explanation. I had 1 vote when you voted for me so I wasn't an established wagon or anything.

[Dunnstral]

a

also a thought that crossed my mind earlier was did Dunnstral really see Alianna's readslist, open up activity overview, and cross check it?

Well I posted an image of me doing that so I'd say yes I did do that. I'm not sure what you are arguing here.

Yes you did but not without reading the game first. Or is checking activity overview something you randomly just do?

You do you cat. If you want to argue that I'm mafia because I checked the activity overview "at a weird time" then that's fine, but I don't have any interest in defending against this. I can check the activity overview whenever I want.

[Dunnstral]

Vote Count 1.8

A young girl was found wandering the streets of Scarfolk in 1976. She claimed that she had escaped from a secret school hidden beneath the town hospital.

She was sent to Scarfolk Hills mental facility where, in brief lucid states between medication regimes and electro-therapy, she created this image again and again.

Her claims were never investigated.

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Enchant (5):

Cephrir, sheepsaysmeep, implosion, Alianna, skitter30

GuerillaWoo (2):

Cat Scratch Fever, Menalque

Alianna (1):

Dunnstral

implosion (1):

Enchant

Aisa (1):

Andante

Not voting (3):

Invisibility, GuerillaWoo, Aisa

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to launch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2023-06-03 21:40:00)

Notes:

• Alianna is on V/LA through Wednesday 5/31.

Vote Count 1.9

Naturally, road safety is as important in Scarfolk as it is anywhere else.

There was a car accident on Scarfolk Moors in November, 1975. A driver veered off the road after being distracted by a dark, hulking entity stalking across the barren, misty landscape.

The driver tried to film the entity with his Super8 film camera, but the footage is shaky and indistinct.

Many believe this is a confirmed sighting of the ‘Scarfolk Beast,’ which was spotted on the moors and even around town for many years.

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Enchant (5):

Cephrir, sheepsaysmeep, implosion, Alianna, skitter30

Dunnstral (3):

Andante, Enchant, Menalque

GuerillaWoo (1):

Cat Scratch Fever

Alianna (1):

Dunnstral

Not voting (3):

GuerillaWoo, Aisa, Invisibility

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to launch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2023-06-03 21:40:00)

Notes:

• Alianna is on V/LA through Wednesday 5/31.

For Enchant

Andante was not a wagon and neither was I, several other players were being voted and one even had more votes than me at some point. Are you saying this is just a self preservation vote? Because I don't think I was the wagon against you until you forced the issue.

[Enchant]

You are more likely to go though and you voted by andante so fair

[Dunnstral]

Who do you actually think is mafia?

[skitter30]

idk

I'll always think enchant should be resolved here
the way they're playing would never convince me otherwise lol

im losing motivation for this game and think the recent direction is weird

im doubting a bunch of reads but I dont want to open that door
and I think what will 80-90% be a reassuring red flip will help

Agreed

[Enchant]

Who do you actually think is mafia?

implosion but it never goes

[Enchant]

Really if you vote someone considered top townread and there starts mass hysteria, then this "town" is not town.

[Enchant]

Or i am again sucking at game well nothing new hahahahahahahahah

[Menalque]

okay I'm here please let me write

[Menalque]

So, let me come out and say this:

I think the team is exactly Andy+enchant + 1 with the +1 probably being CSF

but possibly being alianna/aisa.

I've been thinking enchant is scum since shortly after his rep in and think Implo's case is very solid. This was solidified by Andy's constant attempts to move the wagon off/defend/generate doubt that enchant was scum or should be limmed today. I think her active resistance and defence of enchant is very partner-y.

But wait, I hear you cry, didn't you do that exact same thing, Mena? Well, yes and no. I have been slightly but not entirely disingenuous. I don't scumread woo or dunn, and when I was asked about woo I looked for two things I thought could plausibly justify a vote there and said those. I actually think woo is pretty solidly town. But I was being serious when I said much earlier that an enchant wagon was bad for game state because if enchant was scum and had just sailed through unopposed it would've been potentially much harder to find the remaining scum.


We would've ended up in a debate of did they bus, or not. A lot of useful information would have been removed and there would have been a lack of ability to look back at peoples' positioning on D1 on later days. So I decided to deliberately try to cultivate a CW under the assumption that scum would try to at least somewhat try to save Enchant if possible rather than just let a buddy get flipped. So my strat was just to vote whichever wagon was second largest to see if anyone else would jump on. Woo didn't really get traction, so I switched to dunn and lo and behold, CSF also moved over. This, combined with 724 is why I think CSF is best bet for third scum -- the woo and dunn reads both seemed really thin there and her later justifications in 850 seem like they're reaching to me. The elaborations on Alianna are also broadly quite empty imo (no offence intended if you're town CSF but there's quite a lot of "good post" as an explanation with nothing more).


Aisa joining on woo + flip flopping on Andy is why I think she could be scum if CSF isn't. However, compare her shift onto woo in 804 to CSF's move onto Dunn in 849 (and reasoning in the posts already referenced. I think this looks much more like someone really reconsidering a slot and working through it in stages, showing what they're thinking about and reaching the conclusion he could be scum vs looking for things to justify making a vote.

Alianna was the weakest vote on Enchant, so if neither of the other two are scum I could see her bussing.

Hopefully it doesn't matter because if it is Enchant + Andy then hopefully unless we're in a super vanilla setup then PRs should be able to round the game out from there.

Okay,

intent

but I'm holding off a bit in case anyone wants to ask questions.

[Enchant]

VOTE: Enchant

I refuse to give you pleasure of killing me.

[Menalque]

I propose flipping in the exact order of

Enchant --> Andy --> CSF --> Alianna --> Aisa --> Skitt

(mostly because I think the early wagon votes are probably all town provided Enchant scum and if it's Andy+Enchant and none of the likely partners are scum it's probably someone good at scum and also skitter surviving 5 nights would be very sun imo)

I hope that my explaining what I've been doing makes sense and there's a calculated risk there because I know I also look partner-y for attempting to divert the wagon. Skitt -- this is why I asked about diverting when I did, because that was exactly what I was trying to do to see if anyone would join. If I need to die on like D4 if CSF isn't scum that's fine, but I think that provided I'm right on Enchant + Andy then the game is probably won like 80-90% of the time.

[Menalque]

VOTE: Enchant

I refuse to give you pleasure of killing me.

@viz this is why I asked you to unvote before lol

[Menalque]

remember folks -- don't leave scum at E-1 because self-hammers hurt town

[Menalque]

two minutes after I post and invite any questions, this is 100% flipping scum

[Enchant]

I was town. There's nothing to gain from this game.

You already build chain of elims from assumption i am mafia. I cannot allow this to continue.


Good luck andante.

[Dunnstral]

So why are you voting me Menalque?

[Menalque]

I was town

[Dunnstral]

Nevermind I didn't read your big post and just read your order of eliminations.

[Menalque]

So why are you voting me Menalque?

did you, like, read 889 or ?