Open 879: Fire and More Fire [game over]

[Datisi]

vote count 1.final

with 15 votes in play, it took 8 to make a decision. day 1 ended.

yeet

Black [8]:

Firebringer, Meuh, Radical Rat, Doctor Drew, Bingle, Merlyn, Ausuka, Donempire

[HAMMER]

Bingle [2]:

The Bulge, osuka

Doctor Drew [1]:

sheepsaysmeep

Firebringer [1]:

Black

Merlyn [1]:

Invisibility

sheepsaysmeep [1]:

Umlaut

not voting [1]:

Skygazer

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[Datisi]

Black has been yeeted day 1. she was a

townie

.

the sun sets, it is now night 1. sunrise in (expired on 2023-06-30 14:15:00).

[Datisi]

Meuh has been killed night 1. she was a

mafia lover

.

The Bulge has been killed night 1. he was a

townie

.

Skygazer has been killed night 1. they were a

mafia lover

.

it is now day 2.

[Datisi]

vote count 2.00

with 11 votes in play, it takes 6 to make a decision. day 2 ends in (expired on 2023-07-08 15:30:00).

yeet

not voting [11]:

Invisibility, Ausuka, Donempire, Doctor Drew, Merlyn, Firebringer, osuka, sheepsaysmeep, Radical Rat, Umlaut, Bingle

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[Ausuka]

Wow guys I totally caught skygazer ignore the other red flip please

[Bingle]

Meuh has been killed night 1. she was a

mafia lover

.

The Bulge has been killed night 1. he was a

townie

.

Skygazer has been killed night 1. they were a

mafia lover

.

it is now day 2.

I AM A FUCKING BOSS.

[Bingle]

Also,

VOTE: osuka

[Bingle]

I’m pretty sure no one shoots lurker sky here, so the kill was probs on Meuh. There’s no way I ever make that kill. Ausuka prolly doesn’t want to kill the slot that’s buddying defending her. Not sure about other people.

[Donempire]

How the turntables.....

Fire, choose carefully next time

VOTE: FB

[Ausuka]

I think the shot was on meuh too but idk how to read into that because like mafia can just lie about their reads and whatever

I am considering to vote invisibility but will iso her when I have time, I'd be interested to hear opinions about her regardless

I think with drew I should probably just ignore him because when I townread someone for tunneling in a towny way and then start to scumread them because I don't believe the thought process can actually come from town they do have an annoying habit of just flipping town anyway.

[Donempire]

I’m pretty sure no one shoots lurker sky here, so the kill was probs on Meuh. There’s no way I ever make that kill. Ausuka prolly doesn’t want to kill the slot that’s buddying defending her. Not sure about other people.

I was pushing for a meuh lim. Fire pushed for a black lim. Clear as can be imo

[Radical Rat]

I am performing. Considerations.

[osuka]

just woke up, gotta drive

but before anything else, VOTE: bingle

[osuka]

i am driving through a tunnel in real life so it’s only appropriate that i get in a tunnel in the game too

[Radical Rat]

I’m pretty sure no one shoots lurker sky here, so the kill was probs on Meuh. There’s no way I ever make that kill. Ausuka prolly doesn’t want to kill the slot that’s buddying defending her. Not sure about other people.

I was pushing for a meuh lim. Fire pushed for a black lim. Clear as can be imo

You're aware that neither you nor Fire would have been aware of Meuh being scum OR Black being Town, right?

[Umlaut]

I'm not so convinced as others that the kill was Meuh and not Skygazer, Meuh definitely took some heat at points yesterday and I'm really not sure what anyone's read on Sky was. But also it probably doesn't matter much because NKA isn't going to get us very far.

Don's failure to remember how the setup works is probably a legit townslip.

[Invisibility]

cool

[Invisibility]

I didn't expect Meuh to be scum lol

[Umlaut]

yeet

Black [8]:

Firebringer,

Meuh

, Radical Rat, Doctor Drew, Bingle, Merlyn, Ausuka, Donempire

[HAMMER]

Bingle [2]:

The Bulge

, osuka

Doctor Drew [1]:

sheepsaysmeep

Firebringer [1]:

Black

Merlyn [1]:

Invisibility

sheepsaysmeep [1]:

Umlaut

not voting [1]:

Skygazer

I would be quite surprised to learn there was only one scum on Black. I think RR, Ausuka, Don are town. I thought Bingle was town just because they were very

solvey

but I'm reëvaluating in light of how much resistance there was to what at seemed like the foregone conclusion wagon. Could go either way on FB or Drew.

I think we yeet Bingle today to settle the question.

VOTE: Bingle

[Umlaut]

(Yes, I do realize that if Bingle was scum only one scumbuddy knew it so "so much resistance" is a hard tell to reason about; I still think this is the right move now)

[Invisibility]

I didn't expect Meuh to be scum lol

I wouldn't shoot Meuh here considering I think we were besties gaming

[Radical Rat]

VOTE: Donempire

The more I sit on it, the more I don't like this. Bellaphant unfortunately didn't give us much to go on, but Don never actually voted Meuh, though he did express a willingness, with his actual vote going to Firebringer until the hammer.

In light of that, it is apparent to me that "I wanted Meuh, Firebringer wanted Black" is a bad faith argument, and even if this setup weren't designed so scum have limited information, Black was never a counterwagon to either Meuh or Firebringer, she was a counterwagon to Bingle, so the argument really only works on the most superficial level possible.

[Ausuka]

I didn't expect Meuh to be scum lol

I believe u

VOTE: invisibility

[Donempire]

VOTE: Donempire

The more I sit on it, the more I don't like this. Bellaphant unfortunately didn't give us much to go on, but Don never actually voted Meuh, though he did express a willingness, with his actual vote going to Firebringer until the hammer.

In light of that, it is apparent to me that "I wanted Meuh, Firebringer wanted Black" is a bad faith argument, and even if this setup weren't designed so scum have limited information, Black was never a counterwagon to either Meuh or Firebringer, she was a counterwagon to Bingle, so the argument really only works on the most superficial level possible.

You might be correct in assessing FB couldn't have known meuh was scum, and in fact might have been hoping for a town!meuh flip, as it would make me look suspicious for pushing her, but you can't possibly reason that i would kill meuh after scumreading her to this extent. I also wouldn't have killed skygazer, because it makes no sense to kill a lurker in a game with one pr and where scum have the ability to find said pr.

[Donempire]

I'm not so convinced as others that the kill was Meuh and not Skygazer, Meuh definitely took some heat at points yesterday and I'm really not sure what anyone's read on Sky was. But also it probably doesn't matter much because NKA isn't going to get us very far.

Don's failure to remember how the setup works is probably a legit townslip.

I was just confused i'm also trying to push a mislim through so it doesn't really matter if what i say adds up or not.