Micro 1085: Even/Odd Killers [GAME OVER]

[Deltabreedy]

My god thank you

But yeah you asked me how it could make me feel better about Datisi (IE lessen the scumread)

It just kind of does?

[sheepsaysmeep]

that's either wolfy or a derpclear lmao

[Deltabreedy]

Don't undermine my argument by painting it as idiocy, it's fucking rude for a start and you'll give scum like fire and trolls like nurse a bat to beat over my head.

They obviously can't be partners. Me saying it clear as day is why I feel slightly better about Datisi, although I still find them annoying.

I'm concerned that Nurse is making an attempt at obv-towning by picking a shitty fight to focus on (I'm not reading the game and that's just how I am) but at present the improvement in my Datisi read doesn't overcome that.

[Datisi]

Also fire, am I being a dick by asking Nurse to catch up? I dont feel like I am

I told you I have no interest reading 28+ pages of past Day 1 speculation, and yet you continue pestering me over that as if that's going to help anyone. That is my meta. Continue pestering me over it to your own detriment.

do you have a different account or have you played elsewhere? because the "that's my meta" line seems really weird otherwise

if you were never planning to catch up on day 1 anyway, why did you jump in so ready to vote fire (based on some rando stuff on page 3) and ask people to join you?

[Datisi]

@Datisi: Why didn't you hammer? What changed?

iirc, appearance said they're gonna make a readslist, and that's what i gave them time for. but in the readslist, they said something like "additional reasons later" or whatever, and since (1) the timer for d1 wasn't tight (2) i didn't see anyone else getting ran up and them active-lurking their way out of the wagon, i figured there's not much difference if i hammered then or in the morning. if your thought now is "but if you think them posting the readslist wouldn't have changed anything about their slot, why didn't you hammer them anyway" and it's because i didn't want to cause some people to be like "but datisiiii they said they needed more time why did you hammer are you scum maybe???" because that's annoying as fuck

fire is right that i fell asleep, but i didn't forget about the game or anything, i just didn't hammer

do you think me not hammering is relevant to my alignment?

[Datisi]

@random nurse can i get a readslist from you? doesn't have to be detailed or anything, just wanna see your current worldview

[Donempire]

Delta is at E-1. I don't want a delta lim today.

maybe scarface is just a really long movie

The rip i downloaded had the last half hour missing... so i had to wait until i had wifi to finish it. Turkish piracy is normally amazing but gotta say scarface rips are fucked up, the web version also would freeze like 100 times

[Deltabreedy]

@Datisi: Why didn't you hammer? What changed?

*snip*
do you think me not hammering is relevant to my alignment?

After this, not really - I think getting my 3 braincells rubbing together thinking about this will just drop me down a WIFOM mineshaft so I'll say probably not and leave it.

I'd ask what you think of Fire's hammer in the context that I gave earlier, but I think they described the scenario as much the same so I doubt there's much to gain from that.

Am I today's lim, in your opinion?

[Datisi]

maybe the real fire case was the friends we made along the way

[Deltabreedy]

Tbh I didn't realise I was on E-1. It kinda stinks that the wagon has built over what, a day or so?

Nurse is trolling so there's nothing to be gained from analysing that vote.
Fire is likely scum who prepared this with seeds from yesterday, then has taken advantage of my regular V/LA to accuse me of not gamesolving, being apathetic and the like (patently untrue)
Sheep parked their wagons with Fire's half the game ago, and has coasted back onto my wagon today with no further exposition of why.

So we've got:
- Trolling
- Misrepresentation
- Weak votes

Does this strike anyone else as a little odd that I've reached E-1 with such speed and little reasoning?

[Datisi]

I'd ask what you think of Fire's hammer in the context that I gave earlier, but I think they described the scenario as much the same so I doubt there's much to gain from that.

you mean 743? i mean sure. if fire is scum that did happen. but also scum!fire could've easily not hammered there as to not appear opportunistic and to wait for me to take the blame for the hammer. and "datisi said it'd hammer" is a very good excuse for staying out of the wagon

Am I today's lim, in your opinion?

i wouldn't cry over it because you're one of the slots i don't really townread, but also i think don's much worse and would rather see him go

this does make me think i'm townreading a scum somewhere, maybe the SK, but i'm not sure if i know how to figure out where right now

[Roden]

Don't undermine my argument by painting it as idiocy, it's fucking rude for a start and you'll give scum like fire and trolls like nurse a bat to beat over my head.

They obviously can't be partners. Me saying it clear as day is why I feel slightly better about Datisi, although I still find them annoying.

I'm concerned that Nurse is making an attempt at obv-towning by picking a shitty fight to focus on (I'm not reading the game and that's just how I am) but at present the improvement in my Datisi read doesn't overcome that.

Nurse doesn't need to obvtown, the slot is already town because of Merlyn and Shea.

[Donempire]

maybe the real fire case was the friends we made along the way

You don't get it, i'm building up hype. When all hope is lost, the watertight case will come, ending the game on the spot.

[sheepsaysmeep]

delta what's your read on me

[Roden]

Delta's wagon does seem kinda fast and the indignation does seem real. But this could easily just be scum who got caught for the wrong reasons and genuinely does scum read Fire as an opposing faction.

I forgot my reasoning for this but back when I was reading ISOs, Delta and Shea felt unaligned. I'll dive through it again to refresh my memory though.

[Donempire]

Okay i will make a case today, but datisi, before that i want you to tell me what you think about appearance's 519, and my 461?

[Roden]

maybe the real fire case was the friends we made along the way

You don't get it, i'm building up hype. When all hope is lost, the watertight case will come, ending the game on the spot.

Why are you currently voting Nurse?

[Donempire]

Legacy vote from merlyn. Can't be bothered unvoting right now

[Deltabreedy]

I could take a Fire lim for reasons I outlined over 4 posts (#709 - #712)
I could take a Merlyn/Nurse lim for reasons from Merlyn's slot that I outlined when I joined the game and the arrogant lack of investment the replacement has in any kind of gamesolving.

There's just too many bad faith votes on my wagon to have it go through ngl

Ninja'd:

@Roden: Can you walk me through how Merlyn is town?

@Datisi: How did Fire's defence of you (whilst saying also that you can speak for yourself) sit with you? Did it make you feel good/bad, uneasy/confident in their alignment?
Also, I don't particularly like Don's play at the end of D1 and through today, but I also wouldn't put them as someone I want limmed today. Can you recap why Don is your favourite today?

Ninja'd more:

@Sheep: I think you're sitting on my wagon for soft reasons, I think you're likely town but either bored or tired.

@Don: Can you manage our expectations on when you will bring that case? It's now been 5 days, and I doubt any amount of illegally downloading films could stop you from making that case for 5 days, surely.

Fucken let me post:

@Roden: I don't mind being limmed if it comes to that, but limmed for these reasons is kinda laughable I shan't lie, hence the indignation.

@Don: No, no more waiting. I want you to make the case.

Aaaaaaaaaaaah

Will post then respond.

[Deltabreedy]

Legacy vote from merlyn. Can't be bothered unvoting right now

So who do you want to lim? Fire or Merlyn/Nurse?

[Deltabreedy]

Because you voted for Merlyn's slot but now you're casing Fire so it's a little confusing, see

[fireisredsir]

im ok with doing don instead

[sheepsaysmeep]

im ok with doing don instead

[fireisredsir]

maybe we can just do that

i think there's like some potential towniness in delta's energy here

[Roden]

@Roden: Can you walk me through how Merlyn is town?

She's been town by play, or at least going by how she typically plays as town and how that's been described. SK!Merlyn never kills Shea, especially not Night 1, since he was hard defending her all game and was probably her biggest ally Day 1. And even though I hero solved them as a scum pair yesterday, mafia!Merlyn is considered to be very unlikely since their interactions were probably

too

close-knit to actually be scummy. That and when I did make that solve public, Shea just denied it while Merlyn was like "oh yeah I totally could be pocketed but we'll cross that bridge when we get to it", which looks a lot better after seeing Shea's flip IMO.