In post 1606, Thestatusquo wrote:
I find it very hard to believe that bulge has any more scum equity than anyone else and hes a very convenient name to point to for someone who wants a non-controversial take.
it works sometimes in coalition. sometimes scum just get kinda left behind
Taking a break from the thread.
^ my second signature reference this game, here let me make another one. I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again: for example if you said that The Bulge instantly won the game if he was included in the coalition after page 100 I will go "Ok, Bulge coal it is then"
In post 1606, Thestatusquo wrote:
I find it very hard to believe that bulge has any more scum equity than anyone else and hes a very convenient name to point to for someone who wants a non-controversial take.
My pov on this is massively different when I have so much of the game's consensus scum equity [and I need to widen this damn limpool]
Tbh another thing that is bothering me is I feel like your reaction here is massively overblown to the amount of pressure you've actually received and the number of people who actually have listed you as an actual scum read. I said I wasn't town reading you. I don't think there's a bunch of people out there listing you as their number one scum read and so for you to go full oh everyone thinks I'm scum not a single person thinks I'm town feels premature to me.
And like that's not scummy in and of itself because like I've certainly done similar things as town when I'm reading the room as being against me and felt I needed to go into drastic be townie mode it's what you're doing with it that I feel is kinda weird. Like, the AtE stuff which seemed to be designed to actively make people feel bad for suspecting you followed by lets push the lurker slot feel like you're using this overreaction to shape narratives too which I don't like.
At a baseline level all I want is actual analysis from you and you keep refusing to give it while making jokes about how you're scum and pushing thread discourse places I don't like.
To throw up your hands and be like welp guess I have to default my worldview to the lurker slot being scum and decide a read on someone else because they're unlikely to be scum with the lurker slot is just not gameplay that helps us at all. And you KNOW that.
In post 1606, Thestatusquo wrote:
I find it very hard to believe that bulge has any more scum equity than anyone else and hes a very convenient name to point to for someone who wants a non-controversial take.
it works sometimes in coalition. sometimes scum just get kinda left behind
I'm not saying that bulge is never scum, though I think I listed some reasons why I independently found him to be kinda townie when he was here.
It's that going there as the default and then going even further and saying a skitter town read is partially based off of them not being partners with bulge is just weird man.
In post 1606, Thestatusquo wrote:
I find it very hard to believe that bulge has any more scum equity than anyone else and hes a very convenient name to point to for someone who wants a non-controversial take.
it works sometimes in coalition. sometimes scum just get kinda left behind
I'm not saying that bulge is never scum, though I think I listed some reasons why I independently found him to be kinda townie when he was here.
yea ik, your reasons are dependent on ari scum tho and if ari is town then i think the same post you townread looks really scummy
In post 1159, Thestatusquo wrote:
The remaining two in my coalition are weaker. Tris because I kinda do think she got tmi'd and the bulge because he seems to be willing to let me cook.
In post 1197, Thestatusquo wrote:
In particular I think bulge could be scum but the way he's approached the thread hasn't felt like someone who was trying to accomplish scum goals to me, especially from my pov of knowing I'm town. Would have been pretty easy for scum bulge to come in here and lightly shade me and given that else was going on thread momentum wise it basically would have gotten rid of any chance of me ever being in a coalition at very little cost to him.
He didn't do that he instead expressed mild support. I'm not sure why he does that as his main thread contribution as scum.
these are the reasons you gave and my understanding is that they are referring to post 1000 which is lightly propping himself up behind you in the shea vs ari argument
In post 893, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
I skimmed couple Isis towngames and the thing I find scummy wasn’t there
which was that there the reads are presented more like “I guess I think bob is scum because this reason,” but here it’s superconfident “bob is town/scum btw.” that felt forced/faked/whatever
I’m just scared that maybe this is too simple
In post 894, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
and I guess I could sorta see that difference being due to this game’s social dynamics?
In post 896, hellbooks wrote:
To the person who said that bulge could be scum with anybody (i think fire) i would say sure but also its not as if his iso is an utter information wasteland in fact we have 1) 3-4 scum reads and an ordered list of townreads and 2) his lack of this hot new sorting strategy that has taken the site by storm that people are calling "thread control"
more like a lack of existing in the thread than actively lacking thread control
In post 1636, fireisredsir wrote:
i think that if you vs ari is tvs then thats a towny post and if you vs ari is tvt then its a scummy post but maybe you disagree i guess
I'd like the reason for why its a townie post or a scummy post in those worlds pls and thank you.
In post 1636, fireisredsir wrote:
i think that if you vs ari is tvs then thats a towny post and if you vs ari is tvt then its a scummy post but maybe you disagree i guess
I'd like the reason for why its a townie post or a scummy post in those worlds pls and thank you.
if ari is scum then i think scum bulge almost never makes that post bc it pushes ari a little further away from coalition and he's not exactly trying to make it in himself. i don't think the distancing is worth it. so if ari is scum then the bulge making that post is more likely to be a town one
but if ari is town and you're also town, then i think lightly taking a side and hiding behind someone else's read is pretty scummy bc it is pushing out a town and also making an ally of a town. i think it would be nearly as scummy if he hid behind ari instead, but i think there were more people at the time who townread you than townread ari (or at least i did lol and maybe that warps my perspective) and so getting on your side seems natural for scum to do there. you're also probably more likely to be receptive to someone joining your side since you seem to have felt a lot of the time like the world is against you here
if ari is town and you're scum then idk it's also lightly scummy due to supporting a partner weakly etc but it doesn't really feel like that is the world here
The momma was sitting in the bird nest right by my door formed in the nest over my across the hall apartment neighbor's door. The bird seemed really natural and real and reminded me of fireisredsir.
Fireisredsir is kinda townie in this page for staring a fact or the matter emperor's new clothes kinda read in the bulge bc most of us have not raised it bc we are town and me and one other person didn't raise it cause we are less likely to see it as scum. It's just a really good read.
I think doubling down that Shea should also be seeing what she's seeing in Bulge's choices furthers how town indicative is because if you want for emperor's new tailor type towncred youd wanna just cautiously see if you get any cred rather than double down on a take that might be as unique as your role pm color.
Wrt to me overreacting to not being townread it's kind of a twisted aspect of the setup. I can't lim anyone. I can only push a coalition that includes me and one that excludes me. I think I'm bad at mafia enough that fmpov all 8*7*6*5 coalitions that include me are better than all the ones that exclude me just from knowing there's a town slot. So I think id agree I'm only softly bottom-slot-in-game but the setup makes that a frustrating position
Alright I gtg
I hope I don't post again
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
The momma was sitting in the bird nest right by my door formed in the nest over my across the hall apartment neighbor's door. The bird seemed really natural and real and reminded me of fireisredsir.
Fireisredsir is kinda townie in this page for staring a fact or the matter emperor's new clothes kinda read in the bulge bc most of us have not raised it bc we are town and me and one other person didn't raise it cause we are less likely to see it as scum. It's just a really good read.
I think doubling down that Shea should also be seeing what she's seeing in Bulge's choices furthers how town indicative is because if you want for emperor's new tailor type towncred youd wanna just cautiously see if you get any cred rather than double down on a take that might be as unique as your role pm color.
Wrt to me overreacting to not being townread it's kind of a twisted aspect of the setup. I can't lim anyone. I can only push a coalition that includes me and one that excludes me. I think I'm bad at mafia enough that fmpov all 8*7*6*5 coalitions that include me are better than all the ones that exclude me just from knowing there's a town slot. So I think id agree I'm only softly bottom-slot-in-game but the setup makes that a frustrating position
meow!here's what it says
