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[PenguinPower]

sideeyeing PP because it felt like they were just throwing easy shade at iavh but they havent voted there. PP, are you scumreading iavh or just trying to push them to be more productive?

[OopsieDaisy]

It's pretty accurate, but I don't think it means that much on Page 4. There are a couple of people in this game I've played with before as both scum and town, so I don't think it would be fair to assume I wouldn't change my meta to adjust for that. If I were you, I would have probably held onto that to try to get a better read later in the Day.

I wish I had the self-control needed to hold onto info like that and use it to create a stronger read later on in the day, but alas, I do not.

Question for Daisy, would you believe me if I told you I'm trying to merge my honestly-quite-distinct-as-of-two-completed-games town and scum metas?

I have never seen your town meta, so I don't have the full info needed to properly judge this. I can see why you'd want to do this tho, having distinct metas can destroy your scum game so blending the two can be necessary, it's just not something that's gonna make you seem town to people who know your scum meta.

Whether or not this is bang on for this game, idk. I think town!kkfc is telling the truth here and scum!kkfc is saying this to weaken any meta-based accusations against them in this game.

[Elements]

elements isnt doing a ton to make me not wanna vote them which ironically makes me not wanna vote them as much

This is the sweet spot I try and live in

[Deltabreedy]

I get the sense we've had a lot of kind of waffly talk.

@Oopsiedaisie, which of the two do you think KKFC is right now?

[OopsieDaisy]

I get the sense we've had a lot of kind of waffly talk.

@Oopsiedaisie, which of the two do you think KKFC is right now?

Leaning scum, hence my vote there right now. I'm not gonna disregard my meta read just because the party has acknowledged it's a good read and has given a decent excuse as to why they're playing in their scum range. Ultimately they're still playing in their scum range.

[Deltabreedy]

Is it purely a meta read?

[OopsieDaisy]

Is it purely a meta read?

Mostly so. Was also a bit of a reaction test, wanted to see if KKFC responded to the push in a way that felt +townie, but so far I'm not seeing anything that has convinced me I need to hop off the wagon.

[KatyKimFanClub]

I mean, you're trying to use a meta read on Page 4. I'm not really sure what you think the appropriate response or discussion would be. Here are all my posts by Page 4 from the game you've read.

Hey everyone, I'm new to forum mafia but I've played on epicmafia and in person before. I'm super excited to play with y'all!

VOTE: VOTE: Cook

[OopsieDaisy]

I get the sense we've had a lot of kind of waffly talk.

Do you think that waffly talk is bad for the game?

[OopsieDaisy]

I mean, you're trying to use a meta read on Page 4. I'm not really sure what you think the appropriate response or discussion would be. Here are all my posts by Page 4 from the game you've read.

Hey everyone, I'm new to forum mafia but I've played on epicmafia and in person before. I'm super excited to play with y'all!

VOTE: VOTE: Cook

Of course a Page 4 meta read doesn't mean I've got a super confident read on you, it is Page 4, but pressuring slots with these kinda wagons is important to create discussions like these in the first place. Gives people something to make reads on and react to and that's 100% good for the game.

I can guarantee if I'm still on your wagon by the end of the day, it won't just be because I think I've got a good meta read. It's just a starting point from which my read can develop.

[KatyKimFanClub]

Sure, but saying I failed the reaction test when it was pretty obviously one seems a little harsh, right?

[Deltabreedy]

I get the sense we've had a lot of kind of waffly talk.

Do you think that waffly talk is bad for the game?

I think so tbh - although whilst I'm on V/LA I've not had much time to really affect that which should be coming to an end tomorrow.

[OopsieDaisy]

Sure, but saying I failed the reaction test when it was pretty obviously one seems a little harsh, right?

It's harsh but in order to create pushes that move us out of RVS, the reasoning sorta has to be harsh unless someone does some crazy scummy stuff early on, which hasn't rly happened here. My meta read is weak but it's something that does point to a scum!kkfc world and I like the idea of letting this wagon sit for a bit and seeing how the game evolves around it.

[OopsieDaisy]

I get the sense we've had a lot of kind of waffly talk.

Do you think that waffly talk is bad for the game?

I think so tbh - although whilst I'm on V/LA I've not had much time to really affect that which should be coming to an end tomorrow.

Ahh, I don't think you're gonna like my playstyle very much then lol. I'm quite the waffler.

[Elements]

I get the sense we've had a lot of kind of waffly talk.

Do you think that waffly talk is bad for the game?

I think so tbh

Do you think all waffeling is nai?

[iamveryhappy]

Hey, I waffle through most of my essays to get good grades
It works sometimes!

[iamveryhappy]

elements isnt doing a ton to make me not wanna vote them which ironically makes me not wanna vote them as much

might be shooting myself in the foot but iavh seems like one of those town players that just makes everyone want to vote them. i do wish they focused more on sorting players.

read my signature
punching bag of mafia I am!

[iamveryhappy]

I'm the easiest push here, come on

Yes

wydm yes

Yes

I really wanna pull the 'One Vote Away From Elimination' card kk

[Deltabreedy]

I get the sense we've had a lot of kind of waffly talk.

Do you think that waffly talk is bad for the game?

I think so tbh

Do you think all waffeling is nai?

I think context is key. If it's waffle designed to, for instance, elongate RVS or to occupy time in a game, or to stifle discussion then yeah it is. I don't see waffling in those contexts as a town-indicative action but I think that may be something for me to overcome as more of a playstyle clash than an AI action. If there is waffle in posts but the posts also have content then waffle away

[Elements]

I'm the easiest push here, come on

Yes

wydm yes

Yes

I really wanna pull the 'One Vote Away From Elimination' card kk

You're very defensive for being the first 'wagon' of the game. I wouldn't even say we're out of rvs yet

[iamveryhappy]

I wanna pull it for fun, and no that was sarcasm
while you just post 'yes' and expect me to understand

[RH]

Elements is at 3 votes, RH?

Oops. Forgot to update numbers. I'll fix it now.

[Elements]

What makes you think I meant for you to understand

[RH]

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Day 1 Count II

iamveryhappy (2) - Deltabreedy, Elements
KatyKimFanClub (2) - OopsieDaisy, iamveryhappy
KittyTacky (2) - Random Nurse, PenguinPower
Elements (1) - Skygazer
Random Nurse (1) - KittyTacky

Not Voting

- KatyKimFanClub

Notes

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[KittyTacky]

I think people are being too hard on IAVH. It's 6 pages in and he has a quite jocular/trollish playstyle, and being a :troll: is NAI.

The site throws an error when you try to make a message with the troll emoji btw.