Mini 2307 | Songs from Glee! | Endgame

[KatyKimFanClub]

If anyone is around and wants to bounce ideas off I'm around for the next few hours.

[KatyKimFanClub]

I just realized I forgot PP.

People who sort of run the game Day 1 are in a blindspot for me, but in the interest of giving everyone (including myself) something to work with, I'd say I'm leaning town as well. Don't know if scum would give me such a hard time after my initial wagon considering I'm a pretty easy elim even without their pressure.

[Elements]

Why are we all giving read lists?
Are we not just telling scum who to kill?

[KatyKimFanClub]

Uh....

I just saw everyone else do it.

[OopsieDaisy]

Daisy's play definitely seems towny, but now I'm starting to be a little more skeptical mainly because I reread 393 again. I think wagon dynamics on iavh also play a part. If iavh flips scum I'm pretty happy saying Daisy is

town

.

Different from my original reason. I don't think my meta read really holds much ground anymore? Because whilst you have been defensive and reactive (things that my biases go grrr at), you've not been passive and that was the crux of my read on Page 4.

Honestly, I hate 393 because it seems inconsistent with the rest of Daisy's play. For one, they clearly value meta as a way to help evaluate people. 393 goes against that, basically saying "look this meta read was wrong", but there's this other heuristic that I think is naturally scummy. The thing is, in my defense I can either be passive or defensive/reactive, and it looks like no matter what I was going to get scumread by Daisy for one. Maybe this is an oversight (I could honestly see it), but the way in which Daisy is evaluating me in this post feels to me like I'm getting set up.

Overall (assuming iavh town flip):

scumlean

Yea my read on your slot is definitely messy right now. I'm struggling because what I wanted to see was you scumhunt in response to the push and that didn't rly happen until the pressure unwound, but your explanation of the defence/offence mode thing made sense, hence why I stopped pushing your slot and started to pressure elsewhere because the pressure clearly wasn't helping you solve.

[KatyKimFanClub]

Can you define defensive and reactive (originally from 393?). It might help me understand more where you're coming from.

[OopsieDaisy]

Can you define defensive and reactive (originally from 393?). It might help me understand more where you're coming from.

Like, getting pushed and focusing on shutting down the push itself rather than looking at the game as a whole and providing your reads based on the push. It's that survivalism that, whilst it exists in town players, almost always exists in scum as long as they've not given up completely.

Your readlist is a great example of something I've wanted to see from you all game. It now feels like you *are* able to focus on the game as a whole and make reads based on how everyone is acting rather than focusing just on the push on you because that pressure has been relieved for this twilight period.

[KatyKimFanClub]

Your readlist is a great example of something I've wanted to see from you all game. It now feels like you *are* able to focus on the game as a whole and make reads based on how everyone is acting rather than focusing just on the push on you because that pressure has been relieved for this twilight period.

Sure, I get where you're coming from now. I will say that I did give readslists earlier than just a few hours ago. Chronologically, it did come after the pressure on my push subsided, but if you take my word for it I'm mostly just a focus-on-one-thing-at-a-time player. If you still value meta, you can see an example of this in Newbie 2125, where I spend literally the entirety of Day 1 defending another player in the game. Deltabreedy can also attest to this

[PenguinPower]

so much twilight analysis

can we not just troll?

[KatyKimFanClub]

I'm not sure what you mean by that PP

[KatyKimFanClub]

Are you talking about me?

[PenguinPower]

no - everyone

[PenguinPower]

except elements and those who haven't posted

[PenguinPower]

so not everyone

[OopsieDaisy]

Your readlist is a great example of something I've wanted to see from you all game. It now feels like you *are* able to focus on the game as a whole and make reads based on how everyone is acting rather than focusing just on the push on you because that pressure has been relieved for this twilight period.

Sure, I get where you're coming from now. I will say that I did give readslists earlier than just a few hours ago. Chronologically, it did come after the pressure on my push subsided, but if you take my word for it I'm mostly just a focus-on-one-thing-at-a-time player. If you still value meta, you can see an example of this in Newbie 2125, where I spend literally the entirety of Day 1 defending another player in the game. Deltabreedy can also attest to this

Oh ya I saw em, but unlike the reads you've given right now which feel a lot more informed/textured from your experience in the game, your reads fresh after the push didn't feel all that strong. Like you just threw some reads out to satiate the desires of the pushers (since it was kinda being demanded of you) rather than now where the reads feel a lot more natural.

[Skygazer]

I was trolling; we were actually in elo and the game is over now

[KatyKimFanClub]

I guess I'll stop talking now

[PenguinPower]

I guess I'll stop talking now

[OopsieDaisy]

so much twilight analysis

can we not just troll?

Can I do both?

[OopsieDaisy]

Your readlist is a great example of something I've wanted to see from you all game. It now feels like you *are* able to focus on the game as a whole and make reads based on how everyone is acting rather than focusing just on the push on you because that pressure has been relieved for this twilight period.

Sure, I get where you're coming from now. I will say that I did give readslists earlier than just a few hours ago. Chronologically, it did come after the pressure on my push subsided, but if you take my word for it I'm mostly just a focus-on-one-thing-at-a-time player. If you still value meta, you can see an example of this in Newbie 2125, where I spend literally the entirety of Day 1 defending another player in the game. Deltabreedy can also attest to this

Oh ya I saw em, but unlike the reads you've given right now which feel a lot more informed/textured from your experience in the game, your reads fresh after the push didn't feel all that strong. Like you just threw some reads out to satiate the desires of the pushers (since it was kinda being demanded of you) rather than now where the reads feel a lot more natural.

But yea reading this out loud I can see where the double standards lie. Like at the time you either give your reads and I think they're weak so am not convinced of your slot, or you don't and I think you're scummy for hiding em.

Anyways ok FINE i'll stop doing analysis I'm ordering pizza what's everyone's favourite kind of pizza?

[KatyKimFanClub]

A nice plain New York slice that burns the top of your mouth.

[OopsieDaisy]

A nice plain New York slice that burns the top of your mouth.

Sounds glorious

[Skygazer]

the worst pizza ive ever had was something my work catered; it was squash, broccoli and red onion, no tomato sauce, only cheddar cheese, and the dough was both under and overcooked with random pockets of extreme sugar

[PenguinPower]

the worst pizza ive ever had was something my work catered; it was squash, broccoli and red onion, no tomato sauce, only cheddar cheese, and the dough was both under and overcooked with random pockets of extreme sugar

[OopsieDaisy]

the worst pizza ive ever had was something my work catered; it was squash, broccoli and red onion, no tomato sauce, only cheddar cheese, and the dough was both under and overcooked with random pockets of extreme sugar

i am so sorry