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[RH]

Deltabreedy,

Town Messenger

, has been killed!

Spoiler: Town Messenger

You are a

Town Messenger

. Each night you may choose a player and submit a message to me that would otherwise be acceptable were it posted in the game thread. Assuming no interference with your action I will forward that message to that player with the title stating the name of this game, the current night, and "

Messenger Message

".
You win when at least one town aligned player is alive and every mafia aligned player is dead. Please confirm by replying with your role.

[RH]

Flavour

Happy

Day 2 Commencement

Not Voting

- Elements, KatyKimFanClub, KittyTacky, OopsieDaisy, PenguinPower, Random Nurse, Skygazer

Notes

• My mod ISO is here.
  
• With 7 remaining, it takes 4 to form a majority.

The

Day

concludes in (expired on 2023-08-07 17:34:00).

[Random Nurse]

Well that went over well.

[OopsieDaisy]

I received Delta's message last night. Don't think there's any downside in not sharing since it's just a green flip's reads and it gives Delta a death speech of sorts.

"I believe we're the same alignment, and I think we should be incredibly cautious of PP.
I think there is a decent chance that KKFC is town despite what I said yesterday, which is mostly vibes.
I plan on looking hard within my null pile tomorrow, and I hope that I can trust in your support on that.
If I'm unsure, then I do trust that I can sheep you. If I'm wrong on THAT then idk gg I guess

Verstappen leads tomorrow by lap 8, btw."

I'm not sure how much I'll be around today but I wanna ISO PP, he was my biggest townread yesterday but when I look at my reasoning it mostly just amounts to vibes so I need to develop my read there, especially with what Delta's saying here.

[Elements]

VOTE: kitty

[Random Nurse]

VOTE: kitty

Could you please share your reasoning for this?

[Random Nurse]

I'm not sure how much I'll be around today but I wanna ISO PP, he was my biggest townread yesterday but when I look at my reasoning it mostly just amounts to vibes so I need to develop my read there, especially with what Delta's saying here.

I've never played with him before so am completely unfamiliar with what to look for.

[Elements]

VOTE: kitty

Could you please share your reasoning for this?

I like having my vote on someone and kitty is the next person I plan on looking at I haven't sorted yet

[OopsieDaisy]

I received Delta's message last night. Don't think there's any downside in not sharing* since it's just a green flip's reads and it gives Delta a death speech of sorts.

"I believe we're the same alignment, and I think we should be incredibly cautious of PP.
I think there is a decent chance that KKFC is town despite what I said yesterday, which is mostly vibes.
I plan on looking hard within my null pile tomorrow, and I hope that I can trust in your support on that.
If I'm unsure, then I do trust that I can sheep you. If I'm wrong on THAT then idk gg I guess

Verstappen leads tomorrow by lap 8, btw."

I'm not sure how much I'll be around today but I wanna ISO PP, he was my biggest townread yesterday but when I look at my reasoning it mostly just amounts to vibes so I need to develop my read there, especially with what Delta's saying here.

EBWOP: Downside in sharing, not downside in not sharing I double negatived myself there.

[Skygazer]

i hope that was paraphrased oopsie

[OopsieDaisy]

i hope that was paraphrased oopsie

it was not, that's exactly what i got lmao

[Skygazer]

I could see PP as scum if KKFC is town.

Need to see more from kittytacky and random nurse today

[Skygazer]

ya might wanna read the ruleset then :c

[OopsieDaisy]

ya might wanna read the ruleset then :c

ohh yea I saw that rule and asked RH about it when I got up, but I got impatient and didn't wanna wait an irl day to share. that's gonna stink if it means i get smitten by our overlord then dang. RH please have mercy

[Skygazer]

learning experience i suppose!

[Skygazer]

PP killing the one person most sus of him would be pretty on the nose but idk

[OopsieDaisy]

learning experience i suppose!

your signature feels very apt for the situation i've put myself in sdgkjdsk

[PenguinPower]

I received Delta's message last night. Don't think there's any downside in not sharing since it's just a green flip's reads and it gives Delta a death speech of sorts.

"I believe we're the same alignment, and I think we should be incredibly cautious of PP.
I think there is a decent chance that KKFC is town despite what I said yesterday, which is mostly vibes.
I plan on looking hard within my null pile tomorrow, and I hope that I can trust in your support on that.
If I'm unsure, then I do trust that I can sheep you. If I'm wrong on THAT then idk gg I guess

Verstappen leads tomorrow by lap 8, btw."

I'm not sure how much I'll be around today but I wanna ISO PP, he was my biggest townread yesterday but when I look at my reasoning it mostly just amounts to vibes so I need to develop my read there, especially with what Delta's saying here.

lol - delta's whole reason for scum me was "vibes" so i guess you decided you lost the vibes battle?

[PenguinPower]

PP killing the one person most sus of him would be pretty on the nose but idk

lol - yes, i only take the most obvious courses of action point to me. it works out well.

[PenguinPower]

kitty - what's your favorite type of ice cream

[PenguinPower]

i'm somewhat annoyed there were only five votecounts yesterday

[Skygazer]

I think I like Skygazer's slot a little less than I did yesterday. For some reason his initial reaction to iavh soft and then move to 451 doesn't seem like the most realistic town thought process. I don't think 3) in that post is ever happening unless I'm the one counterclaiming as scum. Also, if iavh softs as PR without hardclaiming, then scum, as the team with more information, is just at such a huge advantage in N1 imo. Maybe I'm thinking about Newbie games where the setup is basically confirmed within a few small configurations though. I don't really think anything bad of them setting up a flip on me tomorrow after this. That's consistent with the rest of their gameplay.

I mostly just thought a backup doctor felt out of place in a micro and wanted to see if that's what they were going to claim or not. The way they claimed seemed very survivalistic/ungeniune (lol) as well so I wanted them to be less wishy washy with it because if they were a PR they probably had a strong chance of being nightkilled regardless.

[OopsieDaisy]

So, ISOing Penguin. Let's see what I find.

33, 38 & 42 were the initial set of posts that spoke as townie to me and I still agree with my assessment there. It's easy mafia theory but it showed me that PP was gonna be looking at the game from a similar perspective to me and I vibed with that.

69 & 75 are easy criticisms on IAVH's setup solving that I also agree with. I'm not sure how we should really be reading the IAVH push today cause like, in theory green flip comes through we look at who was pushing there, but for me at least I felt it was a very justified push on a player who was gonna hurt town in the long run if we kept him alive.

165 has PP hop onto the KKFC wagon, but he actually spends his next burst of posts pressuring Skygazer instead. It's consistent with his thoughts regarding using and supporting big wagons to see how people react, which is good, but the Skygazer pressure sorta just ends as the big KKFC conversation takes over. I guess there's a Skygazer/PP deepwolf world but I don't really wanna worry about that right now considering they're both big townreads to me lol.

In terms of that big KKFC push, I still like it because I think the principals being pushed are those I agree with. Being open/honest about your reads for the most part I think is just the way to go for town. However as the pressure has eased up on KKFC I'm reading him a lot more townie so that adds an extra wrinkle here.

After the KKFC push tho PP takes a bit of a step back from the game. Pressures KKFC to vote IAVH in 403 alongside myself, and then pops IAVH at E-1 in 496. From there it's just twilight shenanigans. I can see how other players could see these actions as scummy, with PP helping get an extra vote on a town wagon alongside their own, but I'm seeing it as town because getting KKFC active and voting is something I actively wanted at the time too, and IAVH was warping the game around himself to the point where he kinda had to go.

TL:DR/Summary - Reading all this has reaffirmed the things I really liked from this slot. There are obviously gonna be worlds where the things I'm reading as town are actually scum plays, but on the surface I'm seeing town motivations here so I'm not particularly concerned with pressuring here today. Sorry Delta

[Skygazer]

kkfc could you expand on your twilight reads list? are you still scumreading oopsie? why is elements townier than kitty in your eyes?

[Skygazer]

i wanna vote in kitty/kkfc/random nurse today but that set feels way too easy lol

sometimes i wish i was capable of thought