Micro 1089: the coalition, again [game over]

[Datisi]

vote count 2.03

with 7 votes in play, it takes 4 to make a decision. day 2 ends in (expired on 2023-08-12 22:15:00).

yeet

fireisredsir [2]:

Isis, brassherald

brassherald [2]:

tris, fireisredsir

tris [1]:

sheepsaysmeep

not voting [2]:

Aristeia, hellbooks

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[hellbooks]

Ok since two people have asked and you ignored both of them I get to write in your answer you would have shot Ari.

i mean isnt ignoring a question for fun kind of like a townie thing to do thouhg.....

this was like in the garlic bread game skygazer buried a line "if you read this respond with banana bread" in a big paragraph and i responded and then she was like "that was a honey pot to catch scum because only scum would read all that"

[hellbooks]

what section of the game would be most worth re reading

postcoal wagon forming stage is probably great grounds to go and cook up some awesome theories

[hellbooks]

i think anyoen could have killed shea because skitter would point the gun at him and belike "you Have to"

[fireisredsir]

Ok since two people have asked and you ignored both of them I get to write in your answer you would have shot Ari. Except it's a sus answer bc it would do little to cripple momentum. We shoot Isis who has more posts and is getting somewhat more townread? All my posts are air tho

The way you engaged the whole dialogue makes me like visualize the skitter post of "ugh. Really sorry I couldn't keep up the energy level I needed for this. Definitely just kill Shea. You can win this "

i didn't ignore both, i already answered

[fireisredsir]

Would be a lot easier if you had genuine earnest feelings that tsq was a shit kill choice

i mean i can make them up if i was maf. i just don't really have that strong of thoughts on who i would kill here bc i am not maf

i am still pretty sure i don't kill shea here but its not like there's some strong reason that's going to convince everyone that's the case lol. when you choose who to nk you don't have to justify it to anyone you just do what you want

[hellbooks]

option 1 - follow the paradigm of my moldy reads list

ive been on a great streak of posting one reads list per game and never having scum above the bottom tiers. this would mean that it would have to be either fire, or, failing that, isis. sorry. it would also be like the thing where page 5 reads are better than page 100 reads

option 2 - follow the paradigm of my house of leaves blasting order

this would mean i would vote tris. also i made this order when i was at peak lucidity about the game. which somehow makes me feel like its worse. if memory serves my back up option was "lim outside the coal"

option 3 - follow the paradigm of a brave new world

this would require me to exercise my free will and carve out new paths of action. id somehow have to find the time to do this while simultaneously being in a brave new world of my own reality (seattle). for example i could just like suddenly turn on ari which is something ive kind of been promising to do for 40 pages and cant seem to make myself go through with it

[fireisredsir]

i wouldn't have thought to kill him bc i like having people who talk a lot around when im maf unless they're like major threats to me (which you would be), and i thought he still mostly townread me

i don't feel sure about brass but mostly thats bc i thought that his push on me was like really obviously scummy and nobody else seemed to care and most of you are town so idk maybe im wrong

i do think it's probably in tris/sheep/brass but idk how to find one of those as town which i probably need to do if y'all want me yeeted

and im like not exactly even confident on clearing isis and brooks so idk lol

im not really sure how to resolve this unsureness either but i have also been busy this weekend. maybe ill continue the reread tomorrow

ok but it doesn't really feel like you're trying to sort between your suspects

yea ik

[hellbooks]

i feel like that internet thing where its always the simpelest answer is not apply to mafia because theres sinister people in the background with designs to make the answer as complicated as possible

[fireisredsir]

what's the complicated answer

[fireisredsir]

oh i missed a post

[fireisredsir]

maybe hellbooks is scum

[hellbooks]

that would like make things blessedly simple for me at least

[Isis]

VOTE: fire

[fireisredsir]

sorry

[fireisredsir]

i don't really know what i can do that will make me feel better about anyone's alignment in this game. ik thats on me but still

ill try rereading i guess

[fireisredsir]

page 59-60 makes me think its sheep

[Isis]

Digame mas

[fireisredsir]

the way he's posting around skitter feels awkward to me

[Aristeia]

the way he's posting around skitter feels awkward to me

tell me more please

[Isis]

Yeah tell Aristeia more

[fireisredsir]

so context is that isis hard townreads skitter, and doesn't like putting skitter + sheep into the coal bc she says skitter scumreads sheep

The other thing that made me mad about the ari-fire coalition is coalling sheep and skitter together


Like even in the worlda where townskitter misread sheep it's so much better to lim sheep out of the car what other worlds matter

I feel that your stance on skitter/me stuff is forced and doesnt make sense

the last thing skitter said about me was "it's waffling between null and null scum"

to start, sheep focusing on this isis take on skitter/sheep feels a teensy bit overly self-aware to me but eh ok whatever

can u rly quickly summarize why u townread skitter for ,e

Focusing on sheep also does not advance her agenda with like any partner

in terms of normal forum mafia outside of coalition I tend to be a very good option to mislim mid-later game so I can technically seeee the scum purpose

like outside of the coalition phase

it advances a longer term agenda to lim enough townies

asking for a skitter towncase and then the response being "well maybe she's setting me up for a miselim later" just feels like a kinda slimy reframing of the interaction between the two. like forcing the idea that they are unaligned, while also doing nothing to shake isis' townread of skitter bc this argument will obviously do nothing to change her mind it's just kinda "look at me i have a town perspective"

my skitter paranoia is quashed again tho by her re-entrance just now somehow I dont rly understand why

possibly too blatant lol

Sheep do you really think skitter walks into a game with no consensus on the 5 exodia cards that might instantly kill her and go"shit, you know what, instead of getting my partner into the coalition let me see if I can set up my 3rd mislim by... Flipping the opinion of 7 townies"

Like cmon

I mean I dont think trying to pull me back into peoples nulls is like the one main thing she's doing

I guess she would probably have to be with someone who already seemed to be making it into coalitions easily like I guess u have some point abt that

and to be clear I havent been at all close to scumreading her, just trying to understand ur read

this post also just feels awkward to me. like it feels like he's having to stretch to see things from a town pov. and the bit about "im just trying to understand" is weird

I think skitter pushing a tris scumread that is probably right, to the exclusion of accomplishing anything to pick the winners of any of the spotlighted conflicts, but without feeling uncomfortable interacting with the spotlighted conflicts really points to her being town.

idk I actually just understood this

idk if I agree but I definitely get the point I will think about this post

then he concludes with deciding she's town based on a post which has imo pretty shaky reasoning. like i think the original post is just not really true at all. she very clearly picked ari as a winner of the "spotlighted conflict" between ari and shea. that is very much a thing that she did. so im not really sure what sheep suddenly understood here

its also just the fact that both sheep and skitter are posting around each other on these pages and talking to other people about the other one, with sheep doing all of this and skitter saying mostly that she doesn't townread sheep bc he's capable of this as maf, but both of them feeling like they're leaving the other mostly unsorted... and they don't engage with each other at all? despite that being the topic of convo for both of them?

idk it just felt like a very aligned two pages to me. i still want to read more tho bc like obviously its believable that sheep could post like this as town it just. pinged me. as skitter would say

it at least moves sheep below tris for me

[fireisredsir]

wow skitter got literally 0 pings this game

[fireisredsir]

the theory is true

honestly there's no way i let that slip past if im partners with skitter

[Aristeia]

ok so between brass and sheep who do you feel stronger about?