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Alianna She/HerDeath by 1000 PagetopsShe/Her
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No VC, but I'm stealing the pagetop.I townread Alianna.
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Infinity 324 they (pl.)Survivorthey (pl.)
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gonna ask flavor some questions to try and clarify
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Why does sk!python soft the inno on monkey and then kill him?
Was the gunsmith claim a good play for sk!drew?
How risky was it for python to agree to being limmed last day phase?-
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To setup a fake claim
Eh, not really at face value.
Decent risk, not super high, but a decent amount for sure— I was also tunneling Snivy.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Infinity 324 they (pl.)Survivorthey (pl.)
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yeah but why that fakeclaim. and why risk killing him idkIn post 1878, Flavor Leaf wrote: To setup a fake claim-
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Like don’t get me wrong, I see Drew SK potential.
But end of the day, Drew played a buddy route on me, if true, and gut and vibe don’t want time to vote Drew, and mech wise, it works for both as scum.
Drew had to have no killed on Night 3 or killed Bianco, which is possible, but idk, Python talked too much mech for me this game, and they came after me, and in my head, Python was always Day 5 fade.
I’m not 100% expecting to win with it by any means, and at times, I feel like Python is town.
But I just think the dynamic was irreparable after D3. The damage was done.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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In a PythonSK world, they have to set something up.In post 1879, Infinity 324 wrote:
yeah but why that fakeclaim. and why risk killing him idkIn post 1878, Flavor Leaf wrote: To setup a fake claim
I originally thought HEM was killed so Python’s read would be validated and that was one of my initial reads on Python.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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In post 981, Save The Dragons wrote: i have a shitty role
This is a point for Drew town, I think. DrewSK would have to have known STD was a Backup Cop, so them saying can’t be that bad is a little odd.In post 987, Doctor Drew wrote:
Can't be that bad.In post 981, Save The Dragons wrote: i have a shitty role
Gunsmith wise, this makes sense that Drew thinks that having a gun couldn’t be that bad, which is kind of the way Drew played.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Infinity 324 they (pl.)Survivorthey (pl.)
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isn't the same thing true for python? if python is scum who can be rb'ed they lose tonight even if drew is limmedIn post 1880, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Drew had to have no killed on Night 3 or killed Bianco, which is possible, but idk, Python talked too much mech for me this game, and they came after me, and in my head, Python was always Day 5 fade.-
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Not necessarily. Python was already talking about Day 3 how they could just no kill and push a frame or something that day, so if they are an Ascetic or some unblockable, they just auto win.In post 1883, Infinity 324 wrote:
isn't the same thing true for python? if python is scum who can be rb'ed they lose tonight even if drew is limmedFlavor Leaf wrote:
Drew had to have no killed on Night 3 or killed Bianco, which is possible, but idk, Python talked too much mech for me this game, and they came after me, and in my head, Python was always Day 5 fade.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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On a mech level, I’m like 40-60 it’s Python-Drew.
On a gut-vibe level, I’m 80-20 Python-Drew.
I’m going with gut and vibes.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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I wasn't even thinking of modifications and variants of roles, just was thinking that the only role I would consider shitty that I could gunsmith was neopolitan.In post 1882, Flavor Leaf wrote:In post 981, Save The Dragons wrote: i have a shitty role
This is a point for Drew town, I think. DrewSK would have to have known STD was a Backup Cop, so them saying can’t be that bad is a little odd.In post 987, Doctor Drew wrote:
Can't be that bad.In post 981, Save The Dragons wrote: i have a shitty role
Gunsmith wise, this makes sense that Drew thinks that having a gun couldn’t be that bad, which is kind of the way Drew played.
So odds were, in my head, std didn't have a shitty role......which I was wrong about lol.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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FL we don't no lim here ever. In the SK!Python that can be rb'd world even if Drew gets limmed we'd get RB'd and then limmed the next day. Mechanically speaking even in the SK!Python world we'd be able to ignore tonights roleblockIn post 1884, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Not necessarily. Python was already talking about Day 3 how they could just no kill and push a frame or something that day, so if they are an Ascetic or some unblockable, they just auto win.In post 1883, Infinity 324 wrote:
isn't the same thing true for python? if python is scum who can be rb'ed they lose tonight even if drew is limmedFlavor Leaf wrote:
Drew had to have no killed on Night 3 or killed Bianco, which is possible, but idk, Python talked too much mech for me this game, and they came after me, and in my head, Python was always Day 5 fade.Plural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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Or shoot Snivy which is probably what actually happenedIn post 1880, Flavor Leaf wrote: Drew had to have no killed on Night 3 or killed BiancoPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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We just checked every role in the list, here's every role that could have gotten a n1 green check:In post 1878, Flavor Leaf wrote: To setup a fake claim
In post 5, Morning Tweet wrote:Informed Townie
You know the identity of a random town protective or investigative power role. If there are no such players, you are instead given the identity of a random town power role. If there are no such players, you are instead given the identity of a random town player. You do not know any specifics about their role or which one of these conditions were met, you know only the player's name.In post 39, Sirius9121 wrote:Town Multitasking N1 Role Cop N2 Combined Complex Checker Vigilante N2 N3 Doctor
To clarify:
- This role is Multitasking, and may perform several actions on the same night when it has them.
- This role has a Role Cop action Night One.
- This role has a Complex Checker Vigilante action Night Two (a kill and a Checker which only works on non-Vanilla roles)
- This role has a Doctor action Night Two and Night Three.
This role has been errata'd to become normal. Its original form was:
Town Combined Multitasking Night-one Role Cop Night-two Vanilla Cop One-shot Complex Vigilante Indecisive Night-two Night-three DoctorIn post 104, TemporalLich wrote:Town Doctor 1-shot Combined Cop Doctor
Each night, you may protect someone from a single kill ability.
Once in the game during night, you may protect someone from a single kill ability and learn if they areTownorNot Town.In post 106, Umlaut wrote:Town Jack-of-All-Trades(Rolecop, Tracker, Weak Hider)
Since the first 100 roles posted were already chosen to make a full game, we could run a version of this game now by restricting to the first 100 using the percentile dice method Cook suggested before. Cook, would you like to run it or let someone else do it? (I will if no one else will, but tbh I'd rather play in it.)
In fact it might not be a bad idea to choose all sets of 100 this same way; then you could run a range-restricted Normal Idea for any set of consecutive posts [100n, 100n+99], or perhaps any union of those sets.In post 123, TemporalLich wrote:Town 1-shot Role Cop
Once in the game during night, you may learn a player's role.In post 128, camelCasedSnivy wrote:Town Bulletproof Multitasking Cop Rolecop Follower [Loyal Mailman]go ahead, which fakeclaim were we setting up? All of these would either claim their results earlier (Informed), wouldn't result in HEM dying n2 (Doctor 1-shot Combined Cop Doctor), would require HEM to be a unique town role (Rolecop) or Vanilla Town (Neapolitan), would require us to make a provable action (Vigilante), or would require us to give more green checks for the rest of the game
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actually nvm forgot Weak roles got posted and would give green checks tooPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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Actually the only weak roles areIn post 1890, usesPython wrote: actually nvm forgot Weak roles got posted and would give green checks too
In post 106, Umlaut wrote:Town Jack-of-All-Trades(Rolecop, Tracker, Weak Hider)
Since the first 100 roles posted were already chosen to make a full game, we could run a version of this game now by restricting to the first 100 using the percentile dice method Cook suggested before. Cook, would you like to run it or let someone else do it? (I will if no one else will, but tbh I'd rather play in it.)
In fact it might not be a bad idea to choose all sets of 100 this same way; then you could run a range-restricted Normal Idea for any set of consecutive posts [100n, 100n+99], or perhaps any union of those sets.In post 135, camelCasedSnivy wrote:Town Weak Roaming Vigilante
14p maybe? though if you want 2 of each team + a sk then 14p wouldn’t cut itIn post 133, Alianna wrote: If I were to run one of these, what game size and faction distribution would people be interested in playing?
15p no sk could work i think
so we'd only be able to claim the Weak Hider JOATPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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And given that the only SK's we could be are:
that still wouldn't be a viable fake claim because we wouldn't be able to convincingly fake the tracker results with any of theseIn post 1133, camelCasedSnivy wrote:Even-Night Compulsive Babysitter Odd-Night Jailkeeper Serial Killer [M]
3-Shot Strongman Rolecop Serial Killer [M]
Ascetic Serial Killer
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Python keeps acting like I am considering a no lim, didn’t know what they were talking about,
But I’m no way shape or form am I for a No fade.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Yeah, Drew wins the vibe check.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Too much mech talk going around.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Then stop posting mech that only works if you assume a no lim is possible todayIn post 1893, Flavor Leaf wrote: Python keeps acting like I am considering a no lim, didn’t know what they were talking about,
But I’m no way shape or form am I for a No fade.Plural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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Yeah well when all your reads on us are mechanically impossible no shit there's gonna be a lot of mechIn post 1895, Flavor Leaf wrote: Too much mech talk going around.Plural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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Like I encourage you to go through the list of possible roles to see what's actually claimable, your logic works in a closed but not in this specific setupPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more-
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Drew can't claim anything crazy because there aren't any workable crazy roles submitted, we couldn't have been setting up for an investigative fakeclaim because there aren't any workable fakeclaims for thatPlural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more
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