Open 885: Backup6 [Game Over]

[camelCasedSnivy]

And by do it, they mean after declaring intent and allowing for a claim.

i dont know about that part

[Dannflor]

do not declare intent to do not allow claim do not pass go do not collect 200 dollars

[iamveryhappy]

ok
*jumps over Dannflor who is cosplaying the cop*
I get the $200

[Ircher]

Day 1 VC #11

Dannflor (4) (F-1): T3 (396), Aureal (420), meowmeow (438), Abnegation (484)

T3 (4) (F-1): Black (318), Dunnstral (506), Dannflor (571), camelCasedSnivy (526)

Not Voting

(1): iamveryhappy (532)

With 9 alive, it takes five votes to fade a player.

Deadlines

This phase will end on Sunday, October 1, 2023 7:00 PM CDT (GMT-5:00) or in (expired on 2023-10-01 19:00:00).

Moderator Notes

1: If you have regular weekend V/LA, you must either notify me each time or set V/LA tags each time.
2: Let me know if you spot any errors in the vote count or voting history.
3: Let me know if you go by a different pronoun than listed.

Pronoun Key

1. camelCasedSnivy : he / him / his
2. T3 : he / him / his
3. Black : she / her / her
4. Aureal : she / her / her
5. Dunnstral : unspecified / unspecified / unspecified
6. Dannflor : he / him / his
7. meowmeow : any / any / any
8. iamveryhappy : he / him / his
9. Abnegation : she / her / her

[T3]

ok
*jumps over Dannflor who is cosplaying the cop*
I get the $200

The suspense is killing me

[camelCasedSnivy]

ok
*jumps over Dannflor who is cosplaying the cop*
I get the $200

The suspense is killing me

hopefully

[Dannflor]

zing

[Dunnstral]

i voted dannflor?

Or sorry, scumread Dannflor, yeah, you didn't vote him.

i based my dann read on the assumption that iavh/dunn/dann had 1 scum in it. i chose Dunnstral mainly because i didn't like his push on iamveryhappy

But earlier, you said:

dann wants you and iavh

you want iavh

i figured iavh would want dann but he never implied said that until the woe is me comment ig

And why does that make me mafia?

i trust iavh and dann has at least had more thoughts than you

It seems that your reason for suspecting me is not consistent. Is it because IAVH/Dann have more thoughts than me, or is it because you don't like my push on IAVH? These are two very different, almost contradictory things.

[camelCasedSnivy]

lol how is it contradictory

i had made a comment that said i didn't think your vote was town motivated

[Dunnstral]

Your first statement says that you are voting me for a lack of thoughts.

Your second statement says that you are voting me because you did not like a thought I had.

I posit that it does not make sense to think both of the above at the same time.

[Dunnstral]

First being chronologically, not the first presented in 607

[camelCasedSnivy]

lack of thoughts doesnt mean no thoughts

[Dunnstral]

In post 494 you said you voted for me because IAVH and Dann had more thoughts than me. In post 592 you said you voted for me because you didn't like my push on IAVH. In post 608 you now claim you don't think my vote was town motivated.

[Dunnstral]

lack of thoughts doesnt mean no thoughts

If you truly had a problem with my lack of thoughts, you would not vote for me as I was starting to present thoughts.

[camelCasedSnivy]

did you forget my inital reason for voting you

[Dunnstral]

It's hard to keep track of them all

[meowmeow]

i don't really get how your push on black was ever exaggerated if you thought there was a 90% chance she would flip scum tbh?

tbh this is just a time where I'm not ever going to make sense to you i don't think

kinda like the time in friends and enemies that in my head "slightly exaggerating" was saying you are acting like you are definitely going to be eliminated instead of probably going to be eliminated

i mean i guess i try not to scumread people for not making sense but i feel like believable progressions is one of the things where you sort of have to look at that sort of thing?? especially if it's someone like you who i uh really don't think of as limbait

and like. related to this point if you're 90% sure black is scum i don't see how me defending her leads to you deciding she's probably town? like, i believe you as town would say you respect my reads but it feels difficult to believe it would actually affect your thinking in that way

to be fair you did say you were less sure on a reread and that accounts for some of the difference but it's still sort of bleh to me?

fwiw i don't mind happy not hammering for the time being we have a while and i don't think the day needs to end urgently

[camelCasedSnivy]

It's hard to keep track of them all

there’s 2

[Black]

Why is Dann your #1 fade choice here?

Aureal did you miss this question?

[Black]

ok
*jumps over Dannflor who is cosplaying the cop*
I get the $200

The suspense is killing me

hopefully

[Black]

CCS feels kinda town on this page. Dunn's push reads a little forced to me

[Black]

if t3 flips red i think that spews Generic town 32

probably spews black town

maybe ccgeek? 121

i don't think the amount of shading t3 does towards aureal in 340 really comes from partners

that leaves [iavh, ccs, dunnstral] as possible partners

I think I would still pick dunnstral out of those 3 probably but idk

i think if t3 is scum here they probably want to be in a bussing position

I think if I'm right about the gamestate T3's partner is someone calling me town and bussing

I don't think CCS or iavh positions really make sense as a T3 partner

if T3 flips scum I think it's like only [Black, Dunnstral] that could possibly be partners

This feels a little inconsistent, at least in regards to my slot. Am I spewed town or a likely T3 partner? Can you explain your thought progression here?

[Dunnstral]

I think Dannflor is just bullheaded. If they were mafia they wouldn't keep pushing me when they're at E-1 and I've been voting the other guy the whole time.

[Dunnstral]

iamveryhappy, do you scumread either of the players at e-1?

[Black]

I think Dannflor is just bullheaded. If they were mafia they wouldn't keep pushing me when they're at E-1 and I've been voting the other guy the whole time.

What do you mean? He voted for T3 right after you did to get the wagon to 3 votes