DEFCON 6.0 - GAME OVER!

[Meuh]

Good morning! Yay nukes :)

[Meuh]

Good morning! Yay nukes

[Meuh]

Pow pow boom nuke everyone

[Meuh]

Bell said Boom!!! adding to bell's town points now!

Pow pow boom nuke everyone

[Meuh]

Bell said Boom!!! adding to bell's town points now!

Pow pow boom nuke everyone

town points for you too!

booooooooooooom boooooooooooom boooom boom boombobobmobmobmobobooomboboobooombooombooomboombooombmmboboomboom booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom!

[Meuh]

hi am meuh

The lack of an "I" here symbolizes the impersonal nature of Firebringer's posting in this game, because he hopes to detach himself from his posting, having rolled scum. It speaks to a deep-seated resentment of his own alignment that he holds, betraying his true allegiance, no matter how much he'd prefer to forget it.

[Meuh]

Hi I am meuh

[Meuh]

U know who else sleeps?
Mafia

Thats 5 points to Norwee scum.

No night phase however, this shows comfort from Norwee to sleep in the middle of a nuclear crisis. Townie with a lack of care? Scum who feels secure? Hard to truly tell...

[Meuh]

Lethality/Production seems like the way to go to me

[Meuh]

Meuhs wisedom is starting to fade. Can't rely on it anymore to get accurate information.

The wisest thing one can do is to admit when they are unsure.

[Meuh]

Meuh trying to psychoanalyze posts is kinda not what I expect from her?

Gamma's confusion at my playstyle shows a discomfort with the new or the unknown. No welcoming for the new Meuh, no open arms, no pleasant surprise, only confusion, that deep down comes from a place of fear. Perhaps not the fear of a townie, but of a mafia member, pointing fingers at those comfortable in their own skin, hoping not to be cornered?

[Meuh]

I think hitting target faster could be nice in a scenario where scum with fast nukes could just send them and win that way
Maybe shouldn't be highest priority but having some townies with speed is probably not a terrible call

[Meuh]

meuh reminds me of the narrator from hades

The voice of an omniscient narrator is one of comfort for many, though an intrusion for others who wish to discover the world on their own. Why does this narrator feel the need to tell me everything? Why is this narrator a better source of information than my own eyes and ears? It is a reasonable frustration to experience, but one that may not be entirely logical. The narrator knows what matters, the average person does not. Is something foreshadowing, or simply a minute detail left to be lost like a grain of sand in a vast beach? The narrator does not have value in their perspective in sheer amount of knowledge, but in their comprehension of time. Seeing the future is infinitely more unique and valuable than having seen everything and read every thought in any set period of time. That is the true value of a narrator. You can see all that a narrator does, but can you comprehend its purpose on a grander scale?

[Meuh]

Meuh trying to psychoanalyze posts is kinda not what I expect from her?

Gamma's confusion at my playstyle shows a discomfort with the new or the unknown. No welcoming for the new Meuh, no open arms, no pleasant surprise, only confusion, that deep down comes from a place of fear. Perhaps not the fear of a townie, but of a mafia member, pointing fingers at those comfortable in their own skin, hoping not to be cornered?

Yeah you’re over-analyzing, I’m just probing to determine if I just missed some character development. You realize I’ve spent half a year away from the site, right?

Am I over-analyzing, or is everyone else under-analyzing? I urge you to ponder. Development should always be sought after, change is inevitable and it is beautiful. Never try living in pure stability. However, never try living in pure change. Never treat life as a transition phase, as every moment holds merit that deserves to be enjoyed. Set goals, reach them, but as we all know, it's about the journey, not the destination, especially when the destination is ever-changing and fluid. Breathe in the air around you, look at every corner of the room, take it all in. You're here, right now, living. and that's beautiful.

[Meuh]

Marci and Adante are both town

[Meuh]

I was gonna call Ircher out for being different to the game I just played with him but he was scum there

[Meuh]

Skygazer can definitely be scum here tbh

[Meuh]

Though maybe having 47 posts points to that not being the case

[Meuh]

Skygazer can definitely be scum here tbh

i'd say i'm never getting voted out early regardless but

kinda dangerous on my part to join this game when there always seems to be a minority of players that really just scumread me for bein me

Have I been particularly egregious with this? I thought I accurately townread you in the Tommy Edman game and the Pokemon game (where you were 3p )
I just don't think any of your posting has looked particularly good

[Meuh]

Though maybe having 47 posts points to that not being the case

What has Skygazer even said in those 47 posts though

Skygazer never makes super dense posts and has a lot of off-topic posts regardless of alignment, so I don't think this is very meaningful

[Meuh]

My continued existence is almost as joyous as it was inevitable.

What say you Meuh - glad/mad/sad/indifferent?

I think this question is directed at my person? The wording here was unclear, "what say you" is not a common phrase to hear, especially not one I am familiar with, considering English is not my mother tongue. (Though perhaps I am merely using this as an excuse to shield me from a true lack of knowledge, as I have been fluent in English long enough to where I should understand such a thing)
I do enjoy your presence in this game, though my mind is telling me you're asking me for a statement on your alignment? I did get vague tonal issues in your posting at first. However, those were superficial, the sort of split second judgment we all apply to each other not only without a second thought but without realizing we have in the first place. Over time your posting has filled with genuine thoughts that were going with the flow in a way scum cannot. I'd also point to your posting as having some confidence and righteousness in it that while not unfakeable, (I know as well as any other the potential many players hold!) plenty of players cannot emulate as scum. I'd say I'm in peace with the outcome here, purely from the perspective of alignment. Though I must admit, I will never cry over a player dying in this game, as sacrifices must be made for us to witness these beautiful nuclear explosions. BOOM. BOOM. BOOM.
Pedit: It appears I have been snipped! Such is to be expected in a time of war, I suppose.

[Meuh]

Roden's looked vaguely good to me all throughout
Enough to jump out of my scumpool

[Meuh]

Muchly satisfied. That is an exquisite answer!

Consider: is your satisfaction purely in the stance I held, or in the universe of reasoning surrounding it? We must not limit ourselves to looking purely at stances, but to explore the vastness behind them that tell the whole story. It's easy to fall into the trap of merely being satisfied with a read because it aligns with your own or because it paints you in a good picture. I have been the victim of people with ill intent confirming my view of things and vouching for me having good intentions. Honestly is the way to find other members of the town, not accuracy. At the end of the day, none of us are all that skilled at the game, but many of us can show our true colours in our thoughts, in our reasoning, in our processes. Disagreement matters not if we can ultimately find each other on this basis. If I had been scum, oh how easy it would be for you to fall into my pocket and lose sight of my true alignment! Be warned!

Spoiler: Visual guide on what not to do

[Meuh]

Though maybe having 47 posts points to that not being the case

What has Skygazer even said in those 47 posts though

Skygazer never makes super dense posts and has a lot of off-topic posts regardless of alignment, so I don't think this is very meaningful

So then why would Skygazer's 47 posts have any bearing on her alignment?

?????

[Meuh]

U know who else sleeps?
Mafia

Thats 5 points to Norwee scum.

No night phase however, this shows comfort from Norwee to sleep in the middle of a nuclear crisis. Townie with a lack of care? Scum who feels secure? Hard to truly tell...

Sweet dreams Norwee

[Meuh]

How do you guys keep letting me get all these pagetops???? I never get this many

[Meuh]

Hmm.

Is this the kind of post that you consider the impact of before you post it, or is it actually off the cuff? What were you considering in your mind as you typed this up and clicked or tapped 'Submit'?

Hmm.

[Meuh]

Who actually trs meuh pls raise ur hand

Spoiler: Me me me!

[Meuh]

cakez, people were breaking site rules on pages 2 - 49
u better go back and read those pages

tldr

We were all talking about an ongoing game :trollface:

[Meuh]

Oh damn I can't read Marci

[Meuh]

Who actually trs meuh pls raise ur hand

Deserved to be nuked off of this post though

[Meuh]

Why are nukes suddenly hitting

[Meuh]

On a scale of 0 to 10 how paranoid should I be that marci asked to be nuked or said she wouldn’t mind being nuked. Because of her paper.

Paranoid in what way? She's fucking dead

[Meuh]

I kinda wanted to talk with Marci more but I don't think I can even cancel the missile now

You're dead shhhhh

[Meuh]

I wanna nuke STD

[Meuh]

True actually

[Meuh]

I like the idea of holding the nuke for a while
It's my cute little teddy bear that I keep around for comfort

[Meuh]

Cancel your nuke or I will cancel your existence with my nuke

[Meuh]

Marci being from Québec was definitely an interesting plot twist there

[Meuh]

i feel the highest chance of successful hitting a scum is andres tbh. So I want that kill, ur still scum in my eyes but Norwee can mess that shot up instead of me in case im wrong.

Why is Andres the most likely scum here
I don't think everyone else is towny enough to warrant this on POE and Andres has done like nothing

[Meuh]

Why should the nukes on StD be cancelled?

[Meuh]

StD did nothing townie and then blew up a townie

[Meuh]

i don't think meuh has been buddying me?
in that post meuh is defending Chell

And that is the only post where she does so, and she didn't follow up on the threat or even mention it again so I doubt she actually cared about defending Chell there.

I made a total of four posts after that one

[Meuh]

if Mueh is buddying me she needs to step up her game is all im saying. I don't feel buddied at all!

Spoiler:

[Meuh]

@Meuh

:

People will have to explain to me why marci scum -> Chell town.

Just because Bell and Firebringer answered doesn't mean I don't care about your reply too - your last response to my query was exquisite after all and I eagerly anticipate the next!

UNOwen is just mad that I didn't answer his last question tbh...

[Meuh]

okay but if ur theory is scum is chell and meuh, and ur saying she is half heartedly defending a scum teammate there....I am not seeing how u come to that conclusion or even say its a weird attempt to buddy me indirectly or w/e

If Chell is scum then Meuh was attempting to build pressure on me to abort my nuke on her scumbuddy, if Chell is town then it was only about buddying you.
If Meuh is town I really don't get where the motivation for that post comes from.

The motivation for it is that I think Chell is town and should not be nuked

[Meuh]

[NORAD SYSTEM] Missile tracked to facility XR-934, currently commanded by Unowen
[NORAD SYSTEM] Analyzing flight trajectory…
[NORAD SYSTEM] Missile is currently targeting coordinates registered to Chell.
[NORAD SYSTEM] Estimating time until impact...
[NORAD SYSTEM] Warhead will detonate on 10-01-23 - 1225 Hours.

Unowen u better fucking cancel this shit

If Chell is scum then Firebringer was attempting to build pressure on UNOwen to abort his nuke on his scumbuddy, if Chell is town then it was just Firebringer having fun pushing people around like the bully he is.
If Firebringer is town I really don't get where the motivation for this post comes from.

[Meuh]

Meuh is Unowen scum?

Potentially
I kinda like his posting but I also feel like what he's pushing is 1000% what he would need to be pushing as scum in this situation

[Meuh]

Chell said I was town, so Chell is town
Simple logic!

[Meuh]

I feel like the 3p asterisk applies to like 96% of townreads in this game

[Meuh]

I just realized the reason I have no many pagetops is that there's 73 pages in this game

[Meuh]

Probably cause it's a large

[Meuh]

I'll choose to interpret the accusations of me being a survivor as someone saying they think I could win Survivor

[Meuh]

Can I nuke Ircher?

[Meuh]

Just because you said that, I’ll have to do it

[Meuh]

Quaking in my boots rn

[Meuh]

I’m mostly asking cause I figure firing off a nuke earlier is better cause if it fails, it gives us time to fire off another nuke at that player

[Meuh]

Quaking

pictured below meuh

I didn’t even spell it wrong though

[Meuh]

Look guys, Fire is signaling to the mafia that they are 3P and they are definitely not a mafia.

You saying this makes me think you're a 3p trying to signal to the mafia cause I hadn't even had the thought of 3ps trying to signal to the mafia

[Meuh]

Look guys, Fire is signaling to the mafia that they are 3P and they are definitely not a mafia.

You saying this makes me think you're a 3p trying to signal to the mafia cause I hadn't even had the thought of 3ps trying to signal to the mafia

Are you going to or have you responded to my question about why you appear not to be processing scum flips?

Like I've said, it's a large. I've had thoughts on the players flipped but I've been looking at people more independently and the full web of associatives and pairings hasn't really formed in my head? So the flips were more just "oh I was wrong" but hasn't really shaken up my worldview beyond that

[Meuh]

Like Marci being scum didn't make me go "oh shit what else am I wrong about????" cause my townread on Marci hadn't otherwise affected my view on the game in a significant way.

[Meuh]

Almost as if I'm not actually solving the game

Pedit: Yes

[Meuh]

Other people did that and I gobbled that shit up

[Meuh]

On a scale of 0 to 10 how paranoid should I be that marci asked to be nuked or said she wouldn’t mind being nuked. Because of her paper.

Paranoid in what way? She's fucking dead

Did you ever answer this? I have 0 clue what you were saying here

[Meuh]

Looked for posts of me engaging with it but there were none, guess I've been lurkier than I thought
I think Chell had some posts on it that I liked?

[Meuh]

Or maybe "that sounded reasonable" is more accurate than "like"

[Meuh]

Good morning! Yay nukes

[Meuh]

Good morning! Yay nukes

[Meuh]

gg!

[Meuh]

Game always quiet at this time of day
Good morning Mafiascum

[Meuh]

I'm town btw

[Meuh]

Nuking me was pretty rude tbh

[Meuh]

Who scum Meuh

meuh

if hypothetically you had a day vig shot that took time and was randomly possible to miss, who would you use it on and why

Ircher because he's scum

[Meuh]

gg!

I felt so clever making this post and then going away but it didn't end up doing much which is sad

[Meuh]

Meuh could have shot me back already but they haven't and that's making me wonder if they are too nervous to shoot as scum.

Nuke: Ircher

[Meuh]

I mean I did find it odd that Norwee decided to just nuke out of nowhere when talking about holding onto it beforehand

[Meuh]

Meuh could have shot me back already but they haven't and that's making me wonder if they are too nervous to shoot as scum.

I feel like scum might want to do the opposite when it comes to nukes? Launching them as early as possible means you don't have to worry about it anymore. Specifically in the context of day 1, it kinda detatches you from the alignment indicativeness of the nuke itself, an "RVS nuke" has the same odds of killing but is safer to throw out as scum
The longer you wait the more info your nuke gives and the higher chance you're forced into a position where you have to nuke someone you don't want to
Like didn't T3 launch his nuke real early?

[Meuh]

Nuking me was pretty rude tbh

I did talk about it

[Meuh]

I believe in my nuke

[Meuh]

Norwee could always abort the nuke like an upstanding citizen

[Meuh]

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Meuh]

Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame

[Meuh]

I think we should all hero shoot for sk

[Meuh]

I’ll never die!!!!!!!!!

[Meuh]

Nukes are weaker than I am

[Meuh]

[Meuh]

Power to the penguin!!!

[Meuh]

meuh i know this is rude but im hoping u flip town because i feel bad for the mafia right now

That would require me flipping but I’m dodging the nuke

[Meuh]

Inside the scum chat:

team member 1: So what do we want to do?
team member 2: idk, but we definitely have to kill Cakez
Meuh: Hi I am meuh
team member 3: Agreed, cakez must die. We all shade him and nuke him if we can't get town to do so
Cakez: Why the fuck are you all bussing me!?!?!?!!

Too true… poor Cakez getting thrown utb

[Meuh]

I’ll probably just nuke Ircher again tbh
Still think he probably flips scum

[Meuh]

Noooooooooo

[Meuh]

At least he lived to week 2

[Meuh]

Gamma is probably the towniest player in the game so that's fair

[Meuh]

Gamma is probably the towniest player in the game so that's fair

what makes you think that

Her posts

[Meuh]

WOOOO I ALWAYS LIVE!!!!!!

[Meuh]

No way

[Meuh]

I think they've just given up so it's probably just Ircher

[Meuh]

I say "just" a lot

[Meuh]

Nuke Meuh and Ircher

Interesting

Is that not the most obvious option for Firebringer to pick? Or is the double nuke part what you find interesting here?

[Meuh]

Week 1 - Lethality and Production
Week 2 - Speed and Production

Haven't submitted my week 2 yet but that's what I'm thinking

[Meuh]

Yup, same here

[Meuh]

Ohhhh that makes more sense

[Meuh]

Would much rather be dealing with last maf than an sk here so this is a much better situation for us
People cleared on associative can stay cleared yippee

[Meuh]

Looking at the PL Klick kinda seems like the most likely scum here?
Pedit: Wait I forgot about UNOwen
Is he associative cleared or did he somehow survive this far without that

[Meuh]

reason: unowen survived two nukes. Clearly too lucky to be mafia

Yet you nuke me after I survive two nukes???

[Meuh]

reason: unowen survived two nukes. Clearly too lucky to be mafia

Yet you nuke me after I survive two nukes???

thats because i was annoyed u survived!

Hi annoyed u survived I am meuh

[Meuh]

There is actually a good reason not to nuke a large chunk of the players left

The one way we could lose this game is if we let our very towny players die

We need at 2-3 players that we all basically agree are town and will not nuke on penalty of death. As long as we can accurately do that, we win.

I don't expect to be in that position but I think there are plenty of viable candidates for that position

I think this is essentially what will naturally happen without us making it official

[Meuh]

We need at 2-3 players that we all basically agree are town and will not nuke on penalty of death. As long as we can accurately do that, we win.

stop trying to make the game no fun

I think this game has been plenty fun already
It’s time to sweat out the W

I think we can casually strut to the W in a 13 v 1

[Meuh]

Yeah Roden's town

[Meuh]

Bell is town

Also true

[Meuh]

Yes…because I also nuked my scumbuddy.

Bottom rung my ass.

This is the worst possible defence here

[Meuh]

Nuke: Marci

This is actually just scum

Locktown...

[Meuh]

Only person I want to nuke is gob
But that’s really only cause there directed questions at me are so lazy

I got my finger on the button, let me know if you want me punch in the launch codes.

who do u want to nuke right now if i said i want u to nuke whoever u think is best

This game is moving quickly mainly when I am busy, I am skimming when I can(like now at work), so shit posting and this Nuke deal with FB is a way to keep coasting until I can really sink my teeth into something.

I do legit believe FB to be town though, don't buy Adante as obvTown as most people do, T3 seems thr most scummy by content, ircher pings me as town.

Okay then go ahead and Nuke T3

I do like the idea of Sky as well, so I don't have to put effort into figuring them out, which I would be wrong about anyways lol.

But......launch codes have been entered, may God have mercy on us all.

Nuke T3

Definitely can't be scum here.

[Meuh]

At this point nuking scum makes you substantially more likely to be scum yourself

[Meuh]

I don't have a particularly hard time believing it, if the scum team is memey enough to do it halfway they're memey enough to do it all the way
Especially since Andres was unlikely to actually get into a position comfortable enough to not die at some point down the line, nuking him earlier gets you towncred and cuts off potential associatives he could give.

[Meuh]

Who actually trs meuh pls raise ur hand

Also this post is still unpaired
This is shit-stirring Marci not Marci talking about a partner

[Meuh]

I don't have a particularly hard time believing it, if the scum team is memey enough to do it halfway they're memey enough to do it all the way
Especially since Andres was unlikely to actually get into a position comfortable enough to not die at some point down the line, nuking him earlier gets you towncred and cuts off potential associatives he could give.

Though why would Andres start posting more meaningfully after the nuke on him was launched?
I do think that while nukes can miss, if the scum logic was that Andres should simply be thrown utb, his reaction probably wouldn't have been like this?
2191 Is this a post someone makes while being nuked by their teammate?
2154 Does this one make sense paired with Penguin?
I actually don't really see it which makes me sad cause I wanted to nuke Penguin
Pedit:

[Meuh]

The main thing you have to assume is that the scumteam made some very bussy decisions

Please reconsider your word choice

[Meuh]

Did Penguin upgrade accuracy on week 1? I feel like that's relatively significant
Though I guess we can't know for sure? MIRV and speed are the only ones that we can know for sure, right?

[Meuh]

You're prob town then

[Meuh]

I'll survive the nuke anyways, townies have plot armour

[Meuh]

I don't care beyond fifth choice

Who would your eighth choice be?

[Meuh]

Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame

[Meuh]

I think that's 3 nukes towards me right now
You guys really want me dead, but it'll never happen

[Meuh]

Nuke: Norwee

[Meuh]

Yeah FB's nuke on me/Ircher hasn't hit yet, Penguin nuked me yesterday and now you
At least FB's nuke being MIRV means that I probably get to survive 3 nukes and I think that'll be the record?

[Meuh]

Looking at the PL Klick kinda seems like the most likely scum here?
Pedit: Wait I forgot about UNOwen
Is he associative cleared or did he somehow survive this far without that

ohhhh yeah you got nuked a bunch but dodged
That answers this question

[Meuh]

gg, thanks for modding Pooky!

[Meuh]

Hi I am firebringer