Large Normal 245 | Game Over

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m confused why Dann died over CCS, unless the hood tells a different story than the main thread

Dann had a claimed guilty on Smiley. Dann didn’t claim role until after Night fell, so Scum didn’t know Dann’s role, but they knew they had a guilty.

We double guiltied, that’s why we were like super positive that it was scum.

And I’m sure it came out to the scum team, but Snivy claimed BP in Neighborhood after I claimed Loyal Vig.

I would have thought that was suspicious if we didn’t have like for sure scum on Smiley.

[Flavor Leaf]

The 3 i mentioned were purely on VCA from Smiley. I forgot who Dave replaced, but they replaced X?

Eh, i thought X was scummy, but they look good on Smiley’s flips.

Dann was gonna target Naerys last night.

[Gamma Emerald]

heip may i ask why you arent using your vote

He's scum. Doesn't want to give info

or a vt who's taking one for the town and isn't sure enough to vote snivy for survival

Hmmm

[Gamma Emerald]

I targeted Hu Tao last night.

I’m N1 N2.

I think it’s likely i got blocked, though.

Ngl regardless of whether you were blocked or not I think Hu Tao could be scum
THS made a motion her way and when I ISOed X I actually came away thinking Hu was sus because X responded to a lot of Hu posts that kinda feel questionable in retrospect?

[Gamma Emerald]

My elimination preferences after that spurt of reading are Naerys on-wagon, Hu Tso off-wagon

[Naerys]

My only weapon is birthday cake

[Naerys]

I’m confused why Dann died over CCS, unless the hood tells a different story than the main thread

Dann had a claimed guilty on Smiley. Dann didn’t claim role until after Night fell, so Scum didn’t know Dann’s role, but they knew they had a guilty.

We double guiltied, that’s why we were like super positive that it was scum.

And I’m sure it came out to the scum team, but Snivy claimed BP in Neighborhood after I claimed Loyal Vig.

I would have thought that was suspicious if we didn’t have like for sure scum on Smiley.

So you dismiss the possibility of 2 scums in the hood?

[davesaz]

My only weapon is birthday cake

Happy birthday!

[davesaz]

I'm not really interested in a Hu wagon. The votepark looked very odd and I'd still like an explanation, but I have a feeling it's not scum indicative.

[davesaz]

So you dismiss the possibility of 2 scums in the hood?

I certainly don't dismiss it at all. I remember a previous game where multiple scum in a hood was discounted and one was able to hide for quite a while. Don't remember what the result was though, and too many threads to search through to find it.

[davesaz]

I want to focus on who put Smiley at L minus 1 knowing I hadn't done my VCA yet.

If I did this, I did not connect with your desire to do VCA.

[davesaz]

Someone mentioned multiple PRs outed during D2, but in skimming it did not add up. I don't remember if that person is in the hood and would therefore know without having had the info funneled to them. This is mostly a reminder to myself of what to look for tomorrow if meetings allow, given it's just past midnight.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m confused why Dann died over CCS, unless the hood tells a different story than the main thread

Dann had a claimed guilty on Smiley. Dann didn’t claim role until after Night fell, so Scum didn’t know Dann’s role, but they knew they had a guilty.

We double guiltied, that’s why we were like super positive that it was scum.

And I’m sure it came out to the scum team, but Snivy claimed BP in Neighborhood after I claimed Loyal Vig.

I would have thought that was suspicious if we didn’t have like for sure scum on Smiley.

So you dismiss the possibility of 2 scums in the hood?

It's possible, im not thinking it's more likely than 1 scum, though. I'd say like 65-35 probs, so it's a solid chance. I talked about Snivy possibility still. I'm leaning town on them, right now, but their BP claim is decent SK or traitor potential. Could even be a fake claim. I'm not wanting to fade them simply because of neighborhood and think that's silly overall. lim on play.

[Flavor Leaf]

but snivy is still in the pool, but to say i think they're scum, they do have a defense of i have to think 2 scum are in neighborhood WIFOM.

Not where my focus is at right now at all

[pisskop]

I want to focus on who put Smiley at L minus 1 knowing I hadn't done my VCA yet.

If I did this, I did not connect with your desire to do VCA.

vca is always spicier when it has 2 flips.

[Titus]

I want to focus on who put Smiley at L minus 1 knowing I hadn't done my VCA yet.

If I did this, I did not connect with your desire to do VCA.

Were you not reading my posts?

VOTE: davesaz

[pisskop]

Spoiler: Day1

camelCasedSnivy (2):

bob3141, Celebloki

gob (1):

Naerys

Save The Dragons (1):

SmileyDude1

davesaz (1):

pisskop

Hu Tao (1):

camelCasedSnivy

Naerys (1):

Titus

Not Voting (8):

Hu Tao, Flavor Leaf, Gamma Emerald, Save The Dragons,

heipizhu4

,

TheHoldSteady

, gob, davesaz

davesaz (2):

pisskop,

heipizhu4

Hu Tao (2):

camelCasedSnivy, Celebloki

camelCasedSnivy (1):

bob3141

gob (1):

Naerys

Save The Dragons (1):

SmileyDude1

Naerys (1):

Titus

Titus (1):

davesaz

Not Voting (6):

Hu Tao, Flavor Leaf, Gamma Emerald, Save The Dragons,

TheHoldSteady

, gob

camelCasedSnivy (2):

camelCasedSnivy,

SmileyDude1

davesaz (2):

pisskop,

heipizhu4

Hu Tao (1):

Celebloki

gob (1):

Naerys

Naerys (1):

Titus

Titus (1):

davesaz

SmileyDude1

(1):

Dannflor

Not Voting (6):

Hu Tao, Flavor Leaf, Gamma Emerald, Save The Dragons,

TheHoldSteady

, gob

Hu Tao (3):

Celebloki, camelCasedSnivy,

heipizhu4

camelCasedSnivy (1):

SmileyDude1

davesaz (1):

pisskop

gob (1):

Naerys

SmileyDude1

(1):

Dannflor

heipizhu4

(1):

Titus

Not Voting (7):

Hu Tao, Flavor Leaf, Gamma Emerald, Save The Dragons,

TheHoldSteady

, gob, davesaz

Hu Tao (3):

Celebloki, camelCasedSnivy,

heipizhu4

camelCasedSnivy (3):

SmileyDude1

, Titus, Gamma Emerald

davesaz (1):

pisskop

gob (1):

Naerys

SmileyDude1

(1):

Dannflor

heipizhu4

(1):

Hu Tao

Not Voting (5):

Flavor Leaf, Save The Dragons,

TheHoldSteady

, gob, davesaz

camelCasedSnivy (4):

SmileyDude1

, Titus, Gamma Emerald, Celebloki

Flavor Leaf (2):

camelCasedSnivy, Save The Dragons

davesaz (1):

pisskop

gob (1):

Naerys

SmileyDude1

(1):

Dannflor

heipizhu4

(1):

Hu Tao

Not Voting (6):

Flavor Leaf,

TheHoldSteady

, gob, davesaz,

heipizhu4

camelCasedSnivy (4):

SmileyDude1

, Titus, Gamma Emerald, Celebloki

Flavor Leaf (2):

camelCasedSnivy, Save The Dragons

heipizhu4

(2):

Hu Tao, Flavor Leaf

davesaz (1):

pisskop

gob (1):

Naerys

SmileyDude1

(1):

Dannflor

Not Voting (4):

TheHoldSteady

, gob, davesaz,

heipizhu4

heipizhu4

(5):

Hu Tao, Flavor Leaf, Titus, Naerys, Gamma Emerald

camelCasedSnivy (2):

SmileyDude1

, Celebloki

davesaz (1):

pisskop

TheHoldSteady

(1):

camelCasedSnivy

Naerys (1):

Dannflor

Not Voting (5):

TheHoldSteady

, gob, davesaz,

heipizhu4

, Save The Dragons

heipizhu4

(6):

Hu Tao, Titus, Naerys, Gamma Emerald, Save The Dragons, camelCasedSnivy

[E-2]

camelCasedSnivy (3):

SmileyDude1

, Celebloki, pisskop

Naerys (1):

Dannflor

Not Voting (5):

TheHoldSteady

, gob, davesaz,

heipizhu4

, Flavor Leaf

heipizhu4

(6):

Hu Tao, Titus, Naerys, Gamma Emerald, Save The Dragons, camelCasedSnivy

[E-2]

camelCasedSnivy (3):

SmileyDude1

, Celebloki, pisskop

SmileyDude1

(3):

davesaz,

Dannflor

,

TheHoldSteady

Not Voting (3):

gob,

heipizhu4

, Flavor Leaf

heipizhu4

(ELIMINATED):

Hu Tao, Titus, Naerys, Gamma Emerald, Save The Dragons, camelCasedSnivy, Celebloki, Flavor Leaf

camelCasedSnivy (3):

SmileyDude1

, pisskop, davesaz

SmileyDude1

(1):

Dannflor

Not Voting (3):

gob,

heipizhu4

,

TheHoldSteady

[pisskop]

Spoiler: Day2

SmileyDude1

(3):

Flavor Leaf,

Dannflor

, camelCasedSnivy

Not Voting (10):

Hu Tao, Naerys, Gamma Emerald, Save The Dragons,

SmileyDude1

, pisskop, Celebloki, Titus, gob, davesaz

SmileyDude1

(7):

Flavor Leaf,

Dannflor

, camelCasedSnivy, Gamma Emerald, Naerys, davesaz,

SmileyDude1

[HAMMER]

Not Voting (6):

Hu Tao, Save The Dragons, pisskop, Celebloki, Titus, gob

[pisskop]

Who's in the hood again?

[Titus]

Thank you pisskop.

Based on D1, I'd be suspect of people not on Heip. I think scum knew he was town and avoided the inevitable wagon and pushed elsewhere. Hu Tao is likely town then.

Pushing a partner when it's known someone else will eat rope is great distancing.

[davesaz]

I want to focus on who put Smiley at L minus 1 knowing I hadn't done my VCA yet.

If I did this, I did not connect with your desire to do VCA.

Were you not reading my posts?

VOTE: davesaz

Were you reading mine?

[davesaz]

Doesn't seem to be much interest in talking.

This was 12 hours later, and basically nobody was saying anything.

[Gamma Emerald]

Who's in the hood again?

The remaining hoodmates are flavor leaf and CCS

[Celebloki]

It is mildly annoying that it felt like Smiley was quick hammered (especially with the self-hammer) to avoid any more discussion D2. But thinking more on it, what more discussion could there have been. It almost made more suspicious of davesaz for putting him at E-1 to allow for the self-hammer, but I'm not sure that's really what happened. I was curious before the hammer if Dann had had anything more to say outside the hood before nightfall.

My running hypothesis was that the neighborhood was 2/2 on town/scum, but I'm not sure if that makes sense either. I'd love to hear something out of gob's slot, CCS has yet to chime in as well.

Do we think outside of FL and scum that there may be any other NKers out there?

[pisskop]

the smiley wagon was w.e.

We didnt really talk about anything.

afa: hood comp. I dont think most normals would run a 3/1 scumhood without a gimmick. I dont think we'll get much more out of the hood, at least until we get closer to elo