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[davesaz]

TBF from day 1 only, I thought Hu looked scummy too.

[Flavor Leaf]

Right, but was your target discussed? Trying to check if scum would know that blocking you could give a fake guilty.

Comparing to a recent scum game Hu seems really different to me.

Do they?

In both games, Hu Tao helped support and push the push I was pushing, in that game on Leek, and this game, I pushed the Heipz slip potential.

And Day 2, they had a scum guilty as well, and Hu Tao bussed, which I called out Hu Tao for doing directly. I feel it makes sense for scum Hu Tao in this game to not bus Smiley because of that.

[davesaz]

That's how you accidental page top.

[Flavor Leaf]

VC 2.FINAL

Votecount 2.02 (FINAL)

SmileyDude1 (7):

Flavor Leaf, Dannflor,

camelCasedSnivy, Gamma Emerald, Naerys, davesaz,

SmileyDude1

[HAMMER]

Not Voting (6):

Hu Tao, Save The Dragons, pisskop, Celebloki, Titus, Random Nurse

Personally, I feel without a doubt there is scum on the back end of the Smiley wagon. At least One, I would almost say exactly 1 since Smiley hammered, but it could be 2. I think never 3. I'm leaning town on Snivy, and haven't really been pinged by Gamma. Case is there for dave, but dave talking has been strong, and scumDave is lurkier imo.

Leaves Naerys.



Means 2 or 3 scum on the Not Voting.

[Flavor Leaf]

1 or 2 scum on the Not Voting, more likely 2 on 2 off.

Celebloki, Naerys, Hu Tao is a possible solve.

[Titus]

Right, but was your target discussed? Trying to check if scum would know that blocking you could give a fake guilty.

Comparing to a recent scum game Hu seems really different to me.

Wouldn't need to know the target. If I was scum with a blocker, I'd block Flavor. It's a numbers game. I'm not sure if scum think three steps ahead and have a blocker but it sets up many future days if Flavor picked town. Mathematically that's good odds.

[Flavor Leaf]

it also would keep me as technically unconfirmed since it made it so i didnt get a kill so people can still push Flavor Scum paranoia.

[camelCasedSnivy]

whoa thats a lot of pages

that i am not reading

[davesaz]

I don't know what to think of Titus. It has been ages but I think of her as usually being more engaged. Being restrained feels a little off. The amount of material is below the mass needed to make a call. pedit: the logic of the latest post is on point

I pretty much never leave pisskop out. He's quite capable of appearing to be whatever he wants.

I don't remember how to read Gamma Emerald. I think I was wrong more often than not in the past. Meta aside, I haven't formed an opinion.

Celebloki is new to me so can't use meta there at all. I get the manipulative vibe previously mentioned, and that's about it. I have not read everything so could have missed something, but I also don't get an inquisitive feel.

[davesaz]

whoa thats a lot of pages

that i am not reading

This feels off, you haven't seemed to be bothered by pages to read before.

[pisskop]

Im undecided on gamma here, and I think thats a fair point to make since dave was mentioning that.

[camelCasedSnivy]

whoa thats a lot of pages

that i am not reading

This feels off, you haven't seemed to be bothered by pages to read before.

thats probably me during the summer

ever since school started, its not really thrilling to read 100 posts

[Titus]

@Davesaz, I am in court. I also underwent major surgery since we played last.

[gob]

whats going on

[Titus]

it also would keep me as technically unconfirmed since it made it so i didnt get a kill so people can still push Flavor Scum paranoia.

That's where I get the three steps ahead.

We flip Hu. Hu is town. (High odds mathematically.)
Scum get a nightkill.
Scum then push Flavor as lying to make sure Snivvy didn't fight or some nonsense.
At elo minus 1 day if we didn't have an explanation, Flavor would be eliminated.

Not how I'd like to play it.

[pisskop]

whats going on

Flavor shot at you with a loyal vig shot last night.

Why are you not dead?

[gob]

whats going on

Flavor shot at you with a loyal vig shot last night.

Why are you not dead?

Doesn't even look like I got shot.

[pisskop]

so you see our conundrum here?

[davesaz]

whats going on

Please double your slot's post performance in the next 15-30 minutes. (unless you have RL conflict in which case later is fine)

[gob]

whats going on

Please double your slot's post performance in the next 15-30 minutes. (unless you have RL conflict in which case later is fine)

Yea I am way too busy for that shit.

[pisskop]

it's pretty straightforward. We don't have a clear-cut target right now.

There's some talk about hu tao or narry or dave, or even me or celeblocki

The most useful thing you can do is pick a couple people and iso them

[Flavor Leaf]

it also would keep me as technically unconfirmed since it made it so i didnt get a kill so people can still push Flavor Scum paranoia.

That's where I get the three steps ahead.

We flip Hu. Hu is town. (High odds mathematically.)
Scum get a nightkill.
Scum then push Flavor as lying to make sure Snivvy didn't fight or some nonsense.
At elo minus 1 day if we didn't have an explanation, Flavor would be eliminated.

Not how I'd like to play it.

If scum have to bet on eliminating me to win the game, i think that's a fine situation.

If we figure it's 8-3 right now, then tomorrow would be 6-3 on a misfade, if that situation happened and i got eliminated tomorrow, it's 4-3. Say we go Naerys today, worst case scenario, they flip town, then we still have Hu Tao. people like to let things resolve as game goes on, but it's like dealing with the inevitable.

This leaves out dealing with slots like Pisskop, Celeb, and You. I think it's always a mark in favor of fading Hu tao, whether it happens or not today.


I would be okay if scum tried to push me, though.

[pisskop]

holstered serial killer says what

[Flavor Leaf]

whats going on

Please double your slot's post performance in the next 15-30 minutes. (unless you have RL conflict in which case later is fine)

Yea I am way too busy for that shit.

you're half way to doubling as is

[Flavor Leaf]

I have lost a game before because a SK wasn't able to get their shots out legitimately through BP/Block shenanigans until all scum were dead.