In post 87, Enchant wrote:
I think massclaim is good, so we force everyone who claimed gun to shot each other, because i don't believe Mafia didnt Went full 3 gun fun.
Wheme is conftown, unless atleast one gun claims.
i dont think the claim even makes whem!town any more likely than rand much less conftown
Oh yeah that’s weird in retrospect
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In post 223, Celebloki wrote:
Personally I still think we forget about an Enchant or Wheme wagon until D2 and instead anyone pushing for an Enchant or Wheme wagon are good fodder for a wagon.
VOTE: SirCakez
This line of logic only works if you have reasons to believe one or both of
Wheme/Enchant
are town.
Aside from what you posited 230, independent of any other slots' interaction with these two, why would we consider one or both of them to be town?
I wouldn't necessarily say they are town, but I don't agree with the sentiment from others that since they are claiming Gun, they must be scum. I just don't agree that scum had to have chosen gun and could see one or more of them choosing rose, leaving room for town to choose guns. My point is scum or town, they are more vulnerable now. I just don't understand the desire to claim gun so early, I feel like a scum gun is more likely to keep quiet about it, especially considering the comments made early in this day. I think it's more likely we had excitable misguided townies waving their guns around. I suppose if people are afraid Enchant will shoot them tonight they can try and elim him today. I doubt Wheme will make it to N2 to use his gun. If Enchant is scum, I just think he's a better option for a wagon tomorrow if he's still here.
what are you seeing there? i see a lot of rolefishing and a bloated iso (nearly every post contains the word gun or rose or both) devoid of any scumhunting. 146 strikes me as an attempt at thread control, like they don't want discussion to stray away from mass-claim adjacency.
Wheme could be a n1 rose baiting the mafia kill. They claimed right after someone said a gun claim would be a defenseless confirmed town, if I remember correctly. I don't think mafia would claim to be a gun right away because then they can be shot by the town guns if they don't believe them.
I don't like to have to spell that out but if you are the only town gun you getting wagoned is bad and you shooting at wheme is bad.
Titus
, how are you feeling about this post?
I feel like engaging on why a claim is made isn't good. Dictating others isn't good.
In post 223, Celebloki wrote:
Personally I still think we forget about an Enchant or Wheme wagon until D2 and instead anyone pushing for an Enchant or Wheme wagon are good fodder for a wagon.
VOTE: SirCakez
I still feel like this is trash logic VOTE: Celebloki
if I am mafia, what is the point of "rolefishing" that you claim I'm doing.
Be specific in your formulation, I'll even format it in a way that's understandable for most users of the english language since I don't really understand your shitty gif posting.
"Aristeia is a mafia player doing rolefishing; her goal is to _____ which will help her win because of _____ and this is advantageous because ____"
or
"Aristeia's strategy is to find out _____ in order to _______"
In post 333, Aristeia wrote:
I will entertain your speculation though Bulge.
if I am mafia, what is the point of "rolefishing" that you claim I'm doing.
Be specific in your formulation, I'll even format it in a way that's understandable for most users of the english language since I don't really understand your shitty gif posting.
"Aristeia is a mafia player doing rolefishing; her goal is to _____ which will help her win because of _____ and this is advantageous because ____"
or
"Aristeia's strategy is to find out _____ in order to _______"
a massclaim only benefits scum at this stage of the game. your entire play has been centred around who picked what. qed.
In post 223, Celebloki wrote:
Personally I still think we forget about an Enchant or Wheme wagon until D2 and instead anyone pushing for an Enchant or Wheme wagon are good fodder for a wagon.
VOTE: SirCakez
I still feel like this is trash logic VOTE: Celebloki
VOTE: Cakez
wtf? Do you think I’m chainsawing Cakez, why us your vote a response to me voting Celeb?
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In post 327, The Bulge wrote:
146 strikes me as an attempt at thread control, like they don't want discussion to stray away from mass-claim adjacency.
attempt at thread control? I barely even bother to post more than one time a day in this thread where the fuck are you getting thread control vibes
narrative control is probably more accurate. shutting down d1 scum strat speculation rubs me the wrong way, esp when you only seem interested in discussing claims. what's the point of assuming there are 3 scum guns and then not going any further with that speculation? it's all noise.
In post 327, The Bulge wrote:
146 strikes me as an attempt at thread control, like they don't want discussion to stray away from mass-claim adjacency.
attempt at thread control? I barely even bother to post more than one time a day in this thread where the fuck are you getting thread control vibes
narrative control is probably more accurate. shutting down d1 scum strat speculation rubs me the wrong way, esp when you only seem interested in discussing claims. what's the point of assuming there are 3 scum guns and then not going any further with that speculation? it's all noise.
10 roses is a far more controlled environment than if the gun/rose spread were more even. we should be taking advantage of that control by using the information we have in a careful deliberate manner.
In post 327, The Bulge wrote:
146 strikes me as an attempt at thread control, like they don't want discussion to stray away from mass-claim adjacency.
attempt at thread control? I barely even bother to post more than one time a day in this thread where the fuck are you getting thread control vibes
narrative control is probably more accurate. shutting down d1 scum strat speculation rubs me the wrong way, esp when you only seem interested in discussing claims. what's the point of assuming there are 3 scum guns and then not going any further with that speculation? it's all noise.
to reduce noise in the thread
to what end?? you haven't shown any interest in sorting alignments
In post 345, The Bulge wrote:
10 roses is a far more controlled environment than if the gun/rose spread were more even. we should be taking advantage of that control by using the information we have in a careful deliberate manner.
pedit - do you disagree or are you being obtuse?
how about you try with english and clearly state what you are talking about
In post 327, The Bulge wrote:
146 strikes me as an attempt at thread control, like they don't want discussion to stray away from mass-claim adjacency.
attempt at thread control? I barely even bother to post more than one time a day in this thread where the fuck are you getting thread control vibes
narrative control is probably more accurate. shutting down d1 scum strat speculation rubs me the wrong way, esp when you only seem interested in discussing claims. what's the point of assuming there are 3 scum guns and then not going any further with that speculation? it's all noise.
to reduce noise in the thread
to what end?? you haven't shown any interest in sorting alignments
you think pushing enchant for lying about his pick is not sorting alignments?