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Post Post #1625 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:56 am

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ill separate their ISOs for more thorough transparency, first with
cakez
because i do like them for town
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Post Post #1626 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:56 am

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atually maybe not, the quotes are small enough i dont think a group ISO is an eyesore
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Post Post #1627 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:59 am

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In post 1612, Redados wrote:
In post 1606, pisskop wrote: So why are you voting me?
Well it was a gut feeling but now that I have ISOd you it looks like I’m a genius
That is not a reason. Please explain
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Post Post #1628 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:00 am

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In post 1622, Taly wrote:
In post 1445, Malakittens wrote:
In post 1423, Taly wrote: why is
cakez
and
enchant
the partners to
dunn/bulge
?

i dont want play or mech answers

me want associatives
In post 1556, Malakittens wrote: I have to reassess.
Mafia is toying with emotions
In post 1591, Malakittens wrote: I think we should wait for a replacement.
Hard to scumread this.
This isnt content
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Post Post #1629 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:15 am

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In post 1627, pisskop wrote:
In post 1612, Redados wrote:
In post 1606, pisskop wrote: So why are you voting me?
Well it was a gut feeling but now that I have ISOd you it looks like I’m a genius
That is not a reason. Please explain
ok I will explain I don't feel like you are playing like a town would I feel like you are playing like a scum would.
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Post Post #1630 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:16 am

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Spoiler: ISO
In post 1169, pisskop wrote: Good shooting, space cowboys
In post 1170, pisskop wrote: celeblocki took that vig like champ too
In post 1175, pisskop wrote: I do think at least 1 maf took a gun, so isnt the pool basically enchant/wheme/whoever defended bulge?
In post 1179, pisskop wrote: I dont know if maf needs to take a night 1 gun.
In post 1190, SirCakez wrote: Ok so my reads were mostly garbage
There is a big difference between both of their opening D2 posts.

pisskop
is positing on how we PoE (which both options are based on D1 entirely), and some fluffy comment about mafia not needing N1 gun? this feels out of place because it is factually incorrect with
Dunn


cakez
is having a hangover over being wrong
In post 1193, pisskop wrote: Do you think last mafia would bother defending Bulge/Dunn or would they accept that its a lost cause and hide in the masses?
A question with an answer I'd like to have heard
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say.
In post 1221, pisskop wrote:
In post 978, Malakittens wrote: I feel like he was being scumread bc he picked rose, which if you are going to nitpick me over semantics its interchangable being being scum read bc he didnt pick gun.
no.

Their takes arent special or proactive, but theyve been largely on point and consistent with the years old meta I have of them
This wasn't even a D1 post so it's hard to track why this is relevant information for
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In post 1238, pisskop wrote: Theres no shame in capitulation, final scum
?
In post 1325, pisskop wrote: I dont get why youre getting bent out of shape over being in the POE of a game with 1 maf left on Day 2
because if someone is town they don't want to fuck with town's likely win?
In post 1326, pisskop wrote: Alisae has the right idea about forming a simple towncore and going down the list.
any idea on who you want?
In post 1327, pisskop wrote: The Bulge wasnt suss enough and dunn wasnt wagoned enough to warrent full blown bussing off the rip, imo, so the juice will be in how they distanced/defended either. Or failed to mention them at all until it was necessary.
and the relationship to the third scum?
In post 1332, SirCakez wrote: Scum NK probably hit a N1 Rose right
yeah.
In post 1334, SirCakez wrote: why did I think there were 4 scum
relatable and unlikely to be faked tbh
In post 1337, SirCakez wrote: VOTE: whemestar
I'm not gonna resist the river here
this is how
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pocketed me.
In post 1338, SirCakez wrote: let's be careful and not blow our lead here
I do think we need to resolve the rest of the guns first
i thought this was the best plan at the time.
In post 1339, SirCakez wrote: Oh Wheme was fake claiming gun? Urgh
VOTE: enchant then
ugh is right....
In post 1340, pisskop wrote: I dont particularly see the benefit of claiming nights or anything.

The final maf has nobody to look out for anymore other than themselves.

Doesnt matter who they shot, if there's more than 1 night1 rose its up for grabs.

Do we need to dig so deeply into the setup to find a towncore? Any sensible maf is claiming n1 rose in this instance.
What?
I didn't read this before but this is a wild take. ngl.

We had probably 2 mafia shots blocked and discussion on the theory behind it is to be shutdown?

But also, there's no counters to my claim,
Titus'
claim,
Gamma's
claim, or
Aristeia's
claim.

Oh,
Gamma
died. Okay.
In post 1341, SirCakez wrote: Ppl I think are pretty town - Alisae, Aristeia, Taly
Kinda townish - Gamma, Titus
Ppl I'm ?? on - pisskop, Mala, Theta
Wtf - Wheme
Scummy - Enchant
pocketed
In post 1353, pisskop wrote: We're in an amazing spot rn, and it's pretty natural for people to default back to the unfinished business of yesterday in the absence of pressure
okay but is that a good thing?
In post 1359, pisskop wrote: Im okay with a cake lim
vote?
In post 1386, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1363, Taly wrote:
In post 1339, SirCakez wrote: Oh Wheme was fake claiming gun? Urgh
VOTE: enchant then
No bad cakez **eats cake**
u think enchants gun claim is town?
yes and im awesome because i was correct
In post 1391, pisskop wrote: There's a tiny spider that could probably be more comfortably measured in pixels than millimeters webbing up and down in front of my giant monitor
In post 1395, pisskop wrote: everyone dies sometime

P: spider bro helps, I keep my windows open most of the year
fluff
In post 1419, pisskop wrote: VOTE: cakez
ok going with the flow here
In post 1478, SirCakez wrote: I had a dream about this game and I don't rlly understand why it's not that intense lmao
In post 1480, SirCakez wrote: I got mislimmed lmaoo
About par for the course
honestly this feels a bit brazen in a towny way
In post 1482, SirCakez wrote: My take for today hasn't changed, still think Enchant has to go to resolve the game state. We can keep solving from there if it isn't over, the recent stomp in Defcon is making me think I shouldn't overthink this
eh okay
In post 1489, pisskop wrote: 2 days of nothing now
In post 1497, pisskop wrote: Kindly stop messing around now
ummm... weren't you in favor of
enchant
via PoE or the fact of limming through D1 reads? this is a very weird stance for
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In post 1531, SirCakez wrote: I agree Theta shouldn't go to ELO but idk if that's the right elim today
oh, restraint
In post 1532, SirCakez wrote: VOTE: pisskop
I think I want to start here today
sure
In post 1533, pisskop wrote:what for?
In post 1534, pisskop wrote: feels like a completely random vote
idk if its random tbh
In post 1535, SirCakez wrote: I've never had you as a read above ? and I pointed out some posts of yours I found scummy earlier. I'm trying to work on new scumread directions here, I don't feel like continuing in the same direction of Wheme, Theta, low content slots like Mala
And obviously I am not interested in eliminating myself
fair
In post 1536, SirCakez wrote: I think the only people I really feel good about rn are Alisae, Taly and Aristeia
cakez
is busted OP
In post 1537, SirCakez wrote: It sucks that Gamma died cuz she was one of my townreads I felt okay about
I don't really TR Titus anymore, her last two posts are literally just naked votes on me and I find it suspicious that she is seemingly uninterested in actually engaging with me or discussing any of her thoughts or arguments about me
wrong, boo,
titus
is town

but i dont think scum takes this angle if on the verge of potential elimination, its just very specific to go after another non-discussed slot
In post 1538, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1537, SirCakez wrote: It sucks that Gamma died cuz she was one of my townreads I felt okay about
I don't really TR Titus anymore, her last two posts are literally just naked votes on me and I find it suspicious that she is seemingly uninterested in actually engaging with me or discussing any of her thoughts or arguments about me
Quick correction not her last two posts anymore but that was recent
k
In post 1539, pisskop wrote: do you, but its so blatantly obvious im town it just looks like youre lost
dismissal of
Cakez's
vote/scumread
In post 1558, pisskop wrote: I gotta get in and look at who evolved and bulge and why

Anyone remember somebody whose opinion on the bulge, and even dunnstral, changed over the day for better or worse?

We use the informed minority nature of mafia against them
a promise to an analysis that isnt here and also doesnt give much food for thought tbh
In post 1568, pisskop wrote: we can start with a cakez lim
there we go again
In post 1569, SirCakez wrote: no fuck off
King shit
In post 1570, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1561, Alisae wrote: VOTE: cakez
why did you change your mind
fair question
In post 1571, SirCakez wrote: I don't want to settle back to day one reads, i want to figure out who Dunn and bulge scum points to
i like this POV
In post 1573, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1572, pisskop wrote: See im convinced its more about how people reacted to them, not the slots themselves.
why not both?
good question, why is
pisskop
downplaying the purpose of NKA?
In post 1574, pisskop wrote: Dunn was largely empty.

The bulge was lessso, but still acutely under pressure for a large amount of time.

Im fairly convinced 3rd scum would have changed how they view bulge specifically.
another analysis going nowhere
In post 1607, pisskop wrote:
In post 1603, Redados wrote: Alisae and Ari are town.
My real concern is a maf partner who jumped into a heavy convo about a topic that has no relevance.
again, nothing that is stating a specific read or push
In post 1610, pisskop wrote: Why do you feel ignored? Youre pretty town
not why i felt ignored or why my WIM was low due to D2.


the main gist is that
Cakez
has been going with unusual takes on slots that don't protect him from elimination

and
pissko
keeps eluding to an analysis that isnt present because you cant follow how their ideas relate to their read, specifically
cakez
, and their tone to D2 and D3's flip is really odd given how they want to continue eliminating D1 suspected slots.

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Post Post #1631 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:16 am

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In post 1617, Taly wrote: That strokes me ego to confuse people but I'm really not that difficult especially with familiar eyes, I feel. Idk if I have the capability to hyperpost as scum tbh. My thoughts are too spontaneous in any natural setting.
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Post Post #1632 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:16 am

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Neither of these make sense to me.
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Post Post #1633 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:17 am

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In post 1628, pisskop wrote:
In post 1622, Taly wrote:
In post 1445, Malakittens wrote:
In post 1423, Taly wrote: why is
cakez
and
enchant
the partners to
dunn/bulge
?

i dont want play or mech answers

me want associatives
In post 1556, Malakittens wrote: I have to reassess.
Mafia is toying with emotions
In post 1591, Malakittens wrote: I think we should wait for a replacement.
Hard to scumread this.
This isnt content
It is to me

1. Mindmeld on a frustration point I had is unlikely to be resounded by scum
2. I don't think mafia makes the "toying with emotions" note lightly
3. Waiting for replacement was the ideal decision than turbolimming and hoping for the best.

why do you scumread
Cakez, pisskop
?
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Post Post #1634 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:17 am

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In post 1631, Redados wrote:
In post 1617, Taly wrote: That strokes me ego to confuse people but I'm really not that difficult especially with familiar eyes, I feel. Idk if I have the capability to hyperpost as scum tbh. My thoughts are too spontaneous in any natural setting.
Self meta
correct, not too important

what is is my ISO and conclusion about
cakez/pisskop
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Post Post #1635 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:17 am

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In post 1629, Redados wrote:
In post 1627, pisskop wrote:
In post 1612, Redados wrote:
In post 1606, pisskop wrote: So why are you voting me?
Well it was a gut feeling but now that I have ISOd you it looks like I’m a genius
That is not a reason. Please explain
ok I will explain I don't feel like you are playing like a town would I feel like you are playing like a scum would.
am I going to be nominated for a scummy award
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Post Post #1636 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:18 am

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I like your analysis taly
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Post Post #1637 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:18 am

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In post 1630, Taly wrote: pissko
keeps eluding to an analysis that isnt present because you cant follow how their ideas relate to their read, specifically cakez
, and their tone to D2 and D3's flip is really odd given how they want to continue eliminating D1 suspected slots.
Im currently not willing to do the grunt work to dig in isoes, but Ive been hoping other people would.

I didnt SR enchant, and We didnt have a D3 flip. Youre trying too hard bruva
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Post Post #1638 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:18 am

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In post 1636, Redados wrote: I like your analysis taly
We have one scum left, can you not start pocketing people
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Post Post #1639 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:18 am

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let's end this game town and follow me
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Post Post #1640 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:19 am

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In post 1605, Redados wrote: Malakittens.
Malakittens! Talk to me please!
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Post Post #1641 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:19 am

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In post 1633, Taly wrote: 1. Mindmeld on a frustration point I had is unlikely to be resounded by scum
2. I don't think mafia makes the "toying with emotions" note lightly
3. Waiting for replacement was the ideal decision than turbolimming and hoping for the best.
This is all so very subjective. Mala was always a rapid poster. I dont get any particular scumvibes from them, but its really flick of the wrist whimsy to townread what amounts to prodging
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Post Post #1642 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:20 am

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In post 1629, Redados wrote: ok I will explain I don't feel like you are playing like a town would I feel like you are playing like a scum would.
Okay. What makes you think my play is 'how a scum would'
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Post Post #1643 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:20 am

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Its like pulling teeth with red.
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Post Post #1644 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:20 am

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In post 1637, pisskop wrote:
In post 1630, Taly wrote: pissko
keeps eluding to an analysis that isnt present because you cant follow how their ideas relate to their read, specifically cakez
, and their tone to D2 and D3's flip is really odd given how they want to continue eliminating D1 suspected slots.
Im currently not willing to do the grunt work to dig in isoes, but Ive been hoping other people would.

I didnt SR enchant, and We didnt have a D3 flip. Youre trying too hard bruva
i didnt try enough and someone i townread got eliminated
(enchant)


think that line is going to work on me? you should answer the questions i posed about
cakez
and why N1 roses shouldn't have claimed.
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Post Post #1645 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:20 am

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In post 1638, pisskop wrote:
In post 1636, Redados wrote: I like your analysis taly
We have one scum left, can you not start pocketing people
I appreciate your input.

Taly! You are scum scum scum. How could you. I trusted you.

Dear pisskop. Is that better? Sincerely, redados.
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Post Post #1646 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:21 am

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In post 1641, pisskop wrote:
In post 1633, Taly wrote: 1. Mindmeld on a frustration point I had is unlikely to be resounded by scum
2. I don't think mafia makes the "toying with emotions" note lightly
3. Waiting for replacement was the ideal decision than turbolimming and hoping for the best.
This is all so very subjective. Mala was always a rapid poster. I dont get any particular scumvibes from them, but its really flick of the wrist whimsy to townread what amounts to prodging
Your posts have the same script of
"This isn't feasible / sensible"


Find another if you want me to take your critiques seriously.
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Post Post #1647 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:21 am

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In post 1643, pisskop wrote: Its like pulling teeth with red.
it's been like two hours how can you make a blanket statement like that lol
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Post Post #1648 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:22 am

Post by pisskop »

In post 1644, Taly wrote: questions i posed about cakez
and why N1 roses shouldn't have claimed.
what questions?

And I dont like your tone taly. You arent the ringleader of the town and as far as Im concerned you can piss off
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #1649 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:22 am

Post by Redados »

In post 1648, pisskop wrote:
In post 1644, Taly wrote: questions i posed about cakez
and why N1 roses shouldn't have claimed.
what questions?

And I dont like your tone taly. You arent the ringleader of the town and as far as Im concerned you can piss off
can you stop trying to pocket taly

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