Toriel's Patience (end)

[Sakura Hana]

Freedom and Shirou on the same tier looks interesting.
I thought you'd have Freedom higher based off your posting.

[Taly]

I think I trust my tonal read of

Shirou

a decent amount.

But yes technically

Freedom

can be boosted to 2nd tier

[Sakura Hana]

I think I trust my tonal read of

Shirou

a decent amount.
<snip>

Can you explain/quote this tonal read? i've been looking through your ISO, and i can't find it.

[Dunnstral]

aaaaare they
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they kind of got immediately bodied on this rep in

Good point, they seem town here.

[Dunnstral]

I will say I still never reached the point of particularly thinking Aristeia was town, so Random Nurse is also in the PoE for me.

Should we be reading into these replace outs?

[Dunnstral]

I could take the lazy path and vote Alisae. Their vote on Dann seems ill-explained and I don't really believe they'd "stop reading" Dannflor on page 4 if they believed they were mafia, if that is what Alisae is claiming.

[implosion]

I will say I still never reached the point of particularly thinking Aristeia was town, so Random Nurse is also in the PoE for me.

Should we be reading into these replace outs?

I generally prefer not to as a matter of course.

[implosion]

And fwiw I don't think there's a whole lot of alignment relevant info to glean there anyway

[Taly]

I think I trust my tonal read of

Shirou

a decent amount.
<snip>

Can you explain/quote this tonal read? i've been looking through your ISO, and i can't find it.

shirou

keep saying something to the effect that they don't want to repeat old behaviors that are unhealthy for the thread.

i doubt theyd care or need to care as much if theyre scum, id imagine their WIM to be worse than it is in this scenario, i might be misreading on that part but still

it gives me pause, their posts can classify as AtE but it seems aimless. its self-conscious but maybe a town variant that knows their limits

[Taly]

Does anyone have a meta read on

Bingle

? Their ISO gives me the impression of stalling. I did like their question to

Shirou

though.

[Taly]

I will say I still never reached the point of particularly thinking Aristeia was town, so Random Nurse is also in the PoE for me.

Should we be reading into these replace outs?

No. I read the replace outs as interpersonal conflict rather than anything specific to the game.

Maybe

Brown Eyes

is a different story but I think

Bingle

is a better way to read that slot.

[Taly]

I can't easily describe my

Ari

townread. I could genuinely be wrong here but it's a big gut read. She would not have interacted with me the same way as scum.

[Meuh]

VOTE: Alisae

[Meuh]

I'd say Alisae probably flips scum more often than I do

[Bingle]

Does anyone have a meta read on

Bingle

? Their ISO gives me the impression of stalling. I did like their question to

Shirou

though.

50% Site downtime at inconvenient times 50% this is the last day of a travel week. My flight home lands around midnight and I'm expecting to be up later than that though, so feel free to poke me if I don't do the things tomorrow.

Also, what did I ask Shirou? Cause the only thing I can remember asking off the top of my head is a cheeky comment about the nature of 3p in mafia compared to the more common usage of uninvolved person.

[Skygazer]

Votecount 1.8

() -

he/him

Dannflor

(1) - Alisae

he/him

Random Nurse

(1) - Bingle

He/him

Lazy Shirou

(0) -

He/him

Bingle

(0) -

Meuh

(2) - Sakura Hana, Ydrasse

She/her

Sakura Hana

(0) -

She/her

Freedom

(0) -

he/him, they/them

Keyleth

(1) - Random Nurse

She/her

Ydrasse

(0) -
She

Alisae

(5) - Dannflor, Taly, Lazy Shirou, implosion, Meuh

Taly

(0)

He/She

implosion

(1) - beeboy

he/him

beeboy

(2) - Dunnstral, Toriel

Not Voting

- Keyleth, Freedom (2)

(expired on 2023-11-17 12:17:50)

[Taly]

i think it started with the "mandante vs shirou" short text war and from then on i think my posts are significantly "better" from a third party view

But how are they from a town view?

I interpreted this as a partial pick at

Shirou

because they seemed concerned with the optics.

[Taly]

In the back of my mind there's a good chance I've townbinned scum but I think entertaining that further is counterintuitive, especially without flips on my PoE

Actually,

Bingle

, I gave reads recently. What townbins do you think I could be misled on?

[Taly]

I know it's wild to want more activity in a 90 page D1

But I want more activity

[Taly]

Also

Implo

, how do you get the idea I'm a good scum player if you haven't seen me as scum before?

[Bingle]

In the back of my mind there's a good chance I've townbinned scum but I think entertaining that further is counterintuitive, especially without flips on my PoE

Actually,

Bingle

, I gave reads recently. What townbins do you think I could be misled on?

I think you’re wrong on not townbinning Bingle. That guy is great. I’ve been pretty low in amount of context and through reading, but I generally agree with you on Dan. All of the things I’ve seen people say about Ali being scum are things that actually make me think alitown, but Ali said I’m gonna sus after the iso so we’ll kill that bridge when we cross the troll.

I’m a little :eyebrows: on the townbin of implo, cause I don’t think I’ve ever townbinned implo. Same with Dunn. Haven’t read enough of either to put a finger on that, but I expect those will be after ali and the combined dunnflor. I don’t really know how I feel about you not giving me assignments on the way in, but that’s also kind of what you just did unprovoked which is a good sign.

I’m also trying to decide whether to fake a scumread on shirou to make him evolve or if I should just respect the desire for a laid back game.

[Bingle]

i think it started with the "mandante vs shirou" short text war and from then on i think my posts are significantly "better" from a third party view

But how are they from a town view?

I interpreted this as a partial pick at

Shirou

because they seemed concerned with the optics.

Nah, just wordplay. Iirc, shirou is always an optics centric player. It’d be like voting me for setup spec or flavor for gambiting.

[Bingle]

I'd say Alisae probably flips scum more often than I do

Speaking of wordplay….

Don’t sell yourself short. I think you play a lot more games nowadays.

[Sakura Hana]

lol.

I still cant shake that weird feeling i got from Merlyn back when she voted me.

[Bingle]

I think if Alisae's afk is probably broadly unrelated to alignment either way.

Was looking at implo's ISO and this kept popping up. Ali is actually significantly less likely to be AFK with a team e enjoys playing with. And I think there are a lot of people that Ali would want to scum it up with in this crew.

@Taly, do you think this an accurate statement about Ali/why people are scumreading em? If so, who do you think is a reasonable scumteam with low effort ali?