Mini 2321: Classic Commercials (Postgame)

[Naerys]

Solid town: Thomith - solves, his analysis feels logical and well thought
Maybe town: Flavor - he is aloof, but observing
Bingle -laid back at the beginning, but later he feels like he is trying to sort people

Null: Gob - unreadable pink fluff filled with pink fluff
Plus bunch of people that need to post more -Hu, SirCakez, Cele

Scumlean: Roden - doesnt do much, just some empty sentences
Kyou: Slightly better than Roden, might replace some lurkers in the null reads tbh, i feel like scum is trying to stay in the shadows at this moment

Second scum detected.

This game might be easy.

Why do you think i am scum? I never rolled scum and it didnt change with this game

[AnimatedWiz]

Dunn’s posts feel like they’re saying very little—like he’s delivering reads that have only a small amount of weight behind them to look invested and impactful without having to be the center of attention. At the same time, it feels like they’re token acts to push attention away from gob, maybe?

If there was more meat to the points he makes, I would think it less suspicious, but it’s also that the reads seem to be designed to divert attention away from gob’s wagon—like 333/335 shading Bingle for trying to associate gob and Roden or 369/371 calling Hu Tao townie for being unsure about the current wagons (notably, Hu Tao is the competing wagon, mine).

I admit, I’m a little less sure about the argument of him trying to support gob, but I do really think he is trying to kind of, uh, not make visible waves—small impacts that hide in plain sight.

VOTE: Dunnstral.

[Roden]

Solid town: Thomith - solves, his analysis feels logical and well thought
Maybe town: Flavor - he is aloof, but observing
Bingle -laid back at the beginning, but later he feels like he is trying to sort people

Null: Gob - unreadable pink fluff filled with pink fluff
Plus bunch of people that need to post more -Hu, SirCakez, Cele

Scumlean: Roden - doesnt do much, just some empty sentences
Kyou: Slightly better than Roden, might replace some lurkers in the null reads tbh, i feel like scum is trying to stay in the shadows at this moment

Second scum detected.

This game might be easy.

Why do you think i am scum? I never rolled scum and it didnt change with this game

You're either intentionally ignoring the content of my posts or you aren't reading the game. I've been engaging with several slots and those very slots have been commenting on my posts.

You're also claiming Bingle has been sorting people, and if you look at their posts then you can see they made a few posts trying to sort me and explaining their reasoning for their read on me. How can Bingle do that if I'm not doing anything? Do you think Bingle is posting complex thoughts about my "empty sentences"?

[Thomith]

Solid town: Thomith - solves, his analysis feels logical and well thought
Maybe town: Flavor - he is aloof, but observing
Bingle -laid back at the beginning, but later he feels like he is trying to sort people

Null: Gob - unreadable pink fluff filled with pink fluff
Plus bunch of people that need to post more -Hu, SirCakez, Cele

Scumlean: Roden - doesnt do much, just some empty sentences
Kyou: Slightly better than Roden, might replace some lurkers in the null reads tbh, i feel like scum is trying to stay in the shadows at this moment

Second scum detected.

This game might be easy.

Why does this post make Naerys scum?

[Thomith]

I got ninja'd you kind of already answered.

[SirCakez]

I swear I'll be here tonight

[Roden]

Looking forward to it

[Hu Tao]

I swear I'll be here tonight

I'm holding you to this

[Flavor Leaf]

I love accidentally posting.

What I was going to say to that quote was do you think those two specifically wouldn't have found their footing in the game as partners yet, or that scum partners generally likely would not have found their footing yet?

I would say both. Most players don’t this soon, but knowing Roden, Roden would try to patch it or just risk Gob going down. I think this situation is really real for Gob to possibly go down, so Roden coming after them that way imo doesn’t make sense.

I’m town reading Roden pretty strongly, though, so i have a hard time seeing them ever as S/S anyways

[Flavor Leaf]

I think Bingle and Gob have more partner equity than Roden and Gob for sure.

I do think Roden bringing up fake distancing is a stretch if Scum/Scum, and would require the two of them to be working well together. I doubt they’d have found their footing this fast in this game as partners.

Really? I think the opposite. I think it shows them NOT meshing well. Like, Roden seems way more concerned about how he’ll look if gob flips scum than I’d expect town to be, and it’s that self conscious feeling that makes me think they might be teamed.

Hmm, I can see that, actually. I don’t necessarily think it’s happening, but like i said, I’m town reading Roden, but i get what you’re saying

[Flavor Leaf]

Too ready to overexplain town!gob

TMI or S/S?

TMI, I think gob towntelled, but I only just read the towntell. He hadn't made the post yet when I read Animated's post

Unrelated, how do you prefer to be referred to

@Animated Wiz

? I prefer being called Kyouko or an abbreviation of that (Kyo, Kyou, Ky) rather than ssbm, and I find myself unsure whether to call you A Wiz, AWiz, Animated, Wiz

Say what the town tell is when you say this type of stuff

Else it just feels like posturing

[Flavor Leaf]

Oh, Kyokou is becoming kinda obv scum these last few pages

[Flavor Leaf]

Kyouku’s posts are tryharding to throw a wrench in the current gamestate, and then turning on Gob and now trying to set up Gob/FL still if Gob goes down is super partnery.

[Flavor Leaf]

This in conjunction to their play earlier, not a good look at all.

[Flavor Leaf]

Their entire gameplay is ‘Counter FL’ which is generally scum indicative.

There’s a difference in the ‘Counter FL’ than something like a Hu Tao or a Naerys would do in a ‘Shade FL’, it’s the actual takes and reads and gamestate dragging/positioning that is in direct counter to what I’m pushing.

It’s the things like Gob town told, but no follow up.

And the way it looks like they’re actively choosing reads rather than naturally getting them

[Flavor Leaf]

Kyok, Gob, Dunnstral is my way too early solve, but i don’t really scum read Dunnstral independently from the other 2.

The other 2 I have independent reads on AND partner equity.

Dunnstral here looks to be pushing Bingle, Kyo dealing with me, and trying to chop down Gob wagon

And yet, neither have given any real reasons to town read Gob.

“Always like this” is a poor reason, because that’s a surface level analysis. I am reading Gob on a level past that.

[Flavor Leaf]

I think Dunnstral alignment becomes obvious as game goes by.

I think Kyo or Gob is the right play today.

[Flavor Leaf]

Dunn’s posts feel like they’re saying very little—like he’s delivering reads that have only a small amount of weight behind them to look invested and impactful without having to be the center of attention. At the same time, it feels like they’re token acts to push attention away from gob, maybe?

If there was more meat to the points he makes, I would think it less suspicious, but it’s also that the reads seem to be designed to divert attention away from gob’s wagon—like 333/335 shading Bingle for trying to associate gob and Roden or 369/371 calling Hu Tao townie for being unsure about the current wagons (notably, Hu Tao is the competing wagon, mine).

I admit, I’m a little less sure about the argument of him trying to support gob, but I do really think he is trying to kind of, uh, not make visible waves—small impacts that hide in plain sight.

VOTE: Dunnstral.

I agree a lot with the token acts away from Gob IF they are scum for sure.

However, I think Kyouku is doing this much more, and Dunn had already put on record they are just sheeping Kyouku, so I think Dunn does have sheeping town mentality on the side against some of the people pushing him.

[Flavor Leaf]

That being said, I’m not interested in a Dunnstral wagon prior to a Kyouku today

[Flavor Leaf]

Naerys and Roden scum read each other in that last game we played, i think they are TvT.

[Flavor Leaf]

Naerys is also super genuine about their reads and isn’t really distracting from anything and simply giving their reads.

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah, I’m pretty confident in KyoukuScum here.

Look at how the situation ended up.

Wiz vs Kyouku started, Wiz became a counterwagon to Gob, and then Wiz is convinced to move off the person pushing there and onto Dunn instead.



Hu Tao has some scum equity, but I think I’m okay town reading them for the day. I usually can read them pretty well when they take action.

Kyouku took action, and imo, that’s what outed them to me. It is the setup afterwards of if they lose today and Gob goes down, the prep for future days.

It’s just not natural townie play.

[Bingle]

Do you think FL could be bussing gob here Bingle?

Unlikely. If scum, FL wants the gob flip to happen, and I don't think he plans to powerwolf a lobby with me given my history of being able to read him. I'm starting to lean town on FL regardless though.

[Bingle]

I swear I'll be here tonight

[Celebloki]

It sucks not having an extensive library of personal meta on everyone. I have like half filled in meta. My best meta read for Kyouko is that she isn't playing like I've seen her in town games I've completed with her. I couldn't say what she looks like as scum. I do notice a significantly quieter energy from her in this game though. Less solvy, more snipey.