Open 898: Don't Fall In The Volcano! | Game Over!

[Aureal]

1.10

Votecount 1.10

FakeGod (3)

-> Klick, Black, NekoLover

Klick (1)

-> FakeGod

Claptastik (1)

-> Dannflor

Black (1)

-> Claptastik

NekoLover (1)

-> Skygazer

Not Voting (2)

-> KawaiiKame, DragonEater70

With 9 gladiators in the arena, it takes 5 votes to remove someone from play.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2023-12-26 16:28:30).

Mod Notes: the combined mod ISO can be found here.

[NekoLover]

Hi Kawaii :3

Is it only me and you rn?

I'm still present, just don't see much to comment on

[NekoLover]

Also UNVOTE: FakeGod
VOTE: Klick

After reading all that i'm more confident fakegod is town

[KawaiiKame]

I'm not following the logic to voting Klick with town-reading Sky's reasoning and Dragon's post. Is voting Klick PoE? What's your scum case on Klick? If I missed it let me know

Because how short it was since game start, and because the mod's votecount on page 2 did not reflect a E-1 state, a scum player could plausibly place a hammer on Black and evade responsibility Day 2, essentially gaining a free mis-execute. Therefore, this action of holding the E-1 wagon on page 2 is scum-favored.

4 people created the E-1 wagon on page 2. Their names are Klick, NekoLover, DragonEater70, and Skygazer. They held it until Neko unvoted at his earliest convenience, so I would remove Neko from the scum pool. Skygazer is the one who put poor Black on E-1 to begin with, but it was because he thought he saw a scumslip. If I saw a scumslip, I would take the same action he did. Dragon put momentum on the wagon by being the 3rd vote on the wagon, and my initial suspect out of the group (hence my early vote). I admit I did like 154. It felt a little hare-brained to me, but it could at least stumble through it and see what Dragon was thinking.

This leaves Klick. He said his first vote was RVS vote. Despite seeing Black pushed into E-1, he conveniently sidestepped the issue in his 36. Seems like he wants the job done but he doesn't want to say so outright. This looks scummy to me.

I hope this explains my voting of Klick to you.

Klick failing to unvote Black at E-1 is sai. Especially failing to in 36 since Klick says,

We put quite a bit of stake in the ability to sort alignment through behaviour,

Leaving Black at E-1 without sorting her alignment through behavior makes 0 sense to me, feels antithetical to what Klick said. This was the perfect time to unvote Black and Klick failed to. Klick may have failed to realize Black was at E-1. At best Klick didn't realize, at worst Klick was content with Black being eliminated page 2.
VOTE: Klick

[DragonEater70]

I'll probably read more in detail later, but right now I think Black is town - I have seen town!Black react this way before to pressure, but I haven't seen scum!Blacl act this way. Of course I could be wrong but whatever.

Klick is still town and the fact that Dann is not explaining his read on Klick means I am not going to explain my read on Klick either.

K bye for now

[DragonEater70]

I'll probably read more in detail later, but right now I think Black is town - I have seen town!Black react this way before to pressure, but I haven't seen scum!Blacl act this way. Of course I could be wrong but whatever.

Klick is still town and the fact that Dann is not explaining his read on Klick

just to spite me

means I am not going to explain my read on Klick either.

K bye for now

EBWOP

[DragonEater70]

Since people (FakeGod in the post Kawaii quoted) are apparently upset about the page 2 wagon still, I am going to say that I think if Black is town then that actually makes Sky a whole less towny in my eyes (my read on Sky was basically "null but unpartnered with Black") and probably the scummiest person on Black's wagon, over Klick.

However reading Kawaii's interaction with FakeGod, yikes. I am pretty sure Kawaii is scum.

VOTE: Kawaii

[DragonEater70]

On second thoughts msybe that's just Kawaii's playstyle, I think I maybe saw similar interactions from them as town before

UNVOTE:

I'll pass final judgment when I am caught up

[NekoLover]

Honestly, my feeling here is that klick + dann is scum; dann in general has felt like scum for just mostly lurking and refusing to share his insight. Klick i've been kinda back and forth on but now I'm just rather firm on the idea that he's scum

[DragonEater70]

Interested in your read on Klick

I can definitely vote Dann today.

[Black]

Honestly, my feeling here is that klick + dann is scum; dann in general has felt like scum for just mostly lurking and refusing to share his insight. Klick i've been kinda back and forth on but now I'm just rather firm on the idea that he's scum

Hey that's my tin foil solve, give it back

[DragonEater70]

Sorry Black btw

[Black]

I think Kawaii jumping in and immediately defending FakeGod was a little jarring. I think there's partner equity here

Neko still feels town but a lot of his reads and opinions are unoriginal and he's been getting on and off lots of wagons as they gain/lose momentum. This isn't necessarily scum indicative but it's something I did a lot in my first scum game on the site so it makes me a little wary

[Black]

Sorry Black btw

Honestly I don't think you did anything that would require you to apologize to me. You're just playing the game. I got a little irritated when you said you were salty about me not engaging with you because it's something Shea does to me a lot and I really hate feeling like I have to engage with someone or else they'll be mad at me. Then you said you didn't give a damn about my Klick read and that bothered me too. But I still don't think you crossed a line. I did however. So I'm sorry for calling you an asshole and being a little brat. I had a really bad day. I'll try to control myself moving forward

[Black]

I try my best to not make things toxic and I think I've been pretty good about it lately. I slipped up today. I'm never going to be fully comfortable getting scumcased for what I consider to be bad reasons but that's no excuse to take it to the level I did

[NekoLover]

Honestly, my feeling here is that klick + dann is scum; dann in general has felt like scum for just mostly lurking and refusing to share his insight. Klick i've been kinda back and forth on but now I'm just rather firm on the idea that he's scum

Hey that's my tin foil solve, give it back

Oh yea that is true, I came up with the same read as you lol;

My points I think for
Dann: Dann is just very distant, lurking a fair amount; they haven't spoke much yet except to vote klick, which as DE7 mentioned, it does appear to be distancing between the two. Also writes it off as

I think klick is approaching this in a way that doesn’t optically make him look very good

All around I don't like how he's remaining distant and trying to direct votes while also not sharing his town read on klick

Klick: A bit more complicated really; Klick did seem to hard tunnel black a bit early in the game when she was at great risk of being eliminated

DragonEater even more town

Read on Black?

I'm not really swayed by your case on Black but regardless I think Black!scum is pretty plausible atp
She needs to start towning yesterday

Considering FakeGod also pointed out that Klick also contributed to Black's page 2 E-1, and I don't have any reason to believe the other two to be scum (DE7, Sky), it feels natural for me to believe it might be those two, given the previous supposed distancing, and their interactions together come off as relatively scummy

[DragonEater70]

Sorry Black btw

Honestly I don't think you did anything that would require you to apologize to me. You're just playing the game. I got a little irritated when you said you were salty about me not engaging with you because it's something Shea does to me a lot and I really hate feeling like I have to engage with someone or else they'll be mad at me. Then you said you didn't give a damn about my Klick read and that bothered me too. But I still don't think you crossed a line. I did however. So I'm sorry for calling you an asshole and being a little brat. I had a really bad day. I'll try to control myself moving forward

Okay

I wasn't actually mad at you for not engaging with me, it was mostly a joke, so sorry I gave that impression

And I accept your apology <3

[NekoLover]

I think Kawaii jumping in and immediately defending FakeGod was a little jarring. I think there's partner equity here

I don't agree with this; I think kawaii was more trying to get a feel for FakeGod's read, and if anything it seemed like she was looking to poke holes in his story

[DragonEater70]

I agree Black's assessment of Kawaii, I also found it jarring

[Black]

Dann is just very distant, lurking a fair amount

I'll let Dann respond to your other points but this in particular isn't alignment indicative. Dann has had a busy weekend with family in town so he hasn't been on the site much at all

[DragonEater70]

Also for future reference - is saying "I don't give a damn" offensive? I am not a native English speaker and sometimes I give different weight to words than native speakers.

[NekoLover]

Dann is just very distant, lurking a fair amount

I'll let Dann respond to your other points but this in particular isn't alignment indicative. Dann has had a busy weekend with family in town so he hasn't been on the site much at all

Yea that's true but it still rubs me the wrong way how he kept his klick town read personal after being called out by DE7 for potentially distancing

[NekoLover]

Honestly, their interactions in general just feel very offputting to be honest

[Black]

VOTE: FakeGod

whats the incentive to vote FakeGod here?

In short, I'm not convinced that FakeGod is solving instead of just posting enough out in the open designed to look plausible enough to get by atm

May you please explain this? I just got in so Idk what you mean. What posts show FakeGod not solving?

Had you read anything at all before writing 411?

Skimming, definitely need to do in depth reading
Initially I'm seeing a lot of conflict, it's insane

Had you read anything at all before writing 411?

Skimming, definitely need to do in depth reading
Initially I'm seeing a lot of conflict, it's insane

So you skimmed before asking Klick about FakeGod? Did you feel like Fake was solving in the posts you read?

I felt what FakeGod was being reasonable, 188 made sense minus the Klick vote.
I saw 230 making sense initially but now I want elaboration why the poe specifically points to Klick.
I see the observations in 348 as good, sorting through playstyles vs. alignment.

These posts are what gave me the feeling

In the first quote Kawaii mentions that he "just got in" so I got the impression that he didn't do much reading. It seemed weird that he questioned Klick's read right away and the timing made it worse considering the Fake wagon just gained steam

In the second quote he said he had skimmed the game, and in the third quote he gave a detailed analysis of why he thinks Fake is solving. It just felt strange for him to focus in on this one particular thing and it seems clear he spent a bit of time looking at it

I'm not sure if scum!kawaii would defend his buddy so hard right out the gate but it definitely gave me pause

Now that I'm looking at it I feel like Kawaii could be scum in a town!Fake world as well and he was using this as a launching point to make it seem like he's trying to solve. He could be trying a pockety type thing with Fake. I also think some of the stuff Kawaii asked after this felt odd, like the site meta from 5 years ago. I understand being interested in that type of stuff but it doesn't really pertain to this game and it seemed like posting just to post

[Black]

Also for future reference - is saying "I don't give a damn" offensive? I am not a native English speaker and sometimes I give different weight to words than native speakers.

It gives off the vibe of a really abrasive and aggressive tone and some people don't respond well to that. It's not crossing a line but I had a visceral reaction to it