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Post Post #550 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:23 pm

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In post 547, Black wrote: Why are you voting Clap over Klick when it seems pretty obvious that there is a bigger appetite for a Klick wagon
i don't feel as confident in my read on klick

i think clap flips scum a lot of the time

i think there are some people on this playerlist who might be likely to follow me onto the wagon of my choosing
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Post Post #551 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:24 pm

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fakegod's townread on me also feels off idk
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Post Post #552 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:24 pm

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In post 550, Dannflor wrote: i think there are some people on this playerlist who might be likely to follow me onto the wagon of my choosing
sure

VOTE: clap
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Post Post #553 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:25 pm

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there's also an element of I think Klick is a great town player and he could be having an off game or i could be having an off game but if I give him time I'll be able to find him as town

i think there's a certain threshold of time where if I still couldn't find him as town i would be more comfortable limming him
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Post Post #554 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:26 pm

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I am oscillating between fakegod having performative scummy outrage or self-righteous towny outrage tbh
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Post Post #555 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:27 pm

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and yes black i realize i am playing into your dann/klick pet theory by being hedgey and uncomittal about him
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Post Post #556 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:27 pm

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VOTE: Clap

e-2

And no I don't care that this goes against my tinfoil solve of Klick/Dann. Scumread me for it if you want
I scumread Alianna.

ALL HAIL THE SCUM QUEEN!
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Post Post #557 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:30 pm

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My main reason for changing my mind about Clap was but it's just not that convincing to me anymore
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #558 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:36 pm

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In post 368, Claptastik wrote:
In post 363, NekoLover wrote: yea tbh I don't like dann simply because he won't explain his train of thought
Problem is that someone with that join date and post count could very well be town, and could very well have good reads. And they're difficult to lim. It's a type that's good for investigatives to check.
i just want to quote this again to say i have a deep primal distaste for this post
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Post Post #559 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:40 pm

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In post 536, Dannflor wrote: i don't believe i said specifically was scummy, but i do think you seemed overly anxious to have bulletproof and unique reasons to be scum reading black

like you said enough in , and then i find your followup in to be more about the performance than anything else.

like i don't think you read all the posts you highlighted and have these thoughts. i think you wanted to scum read black and then reinforced that with afterwards

that's something town sometimes too but it comes from scum an awful lot of the time that want to make their reads seem more real, and more importantly, bulletproof to argue against
I'm town. You're projecting because it's something in your own scum bag of tricks. For example:
viewtopic.php?p=13971095#p13971095

I'm town. You should look elsewhere.

Currently I have black, neko, de70, and you north of null
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fakegod, kawaii - scum pool

I guess I doubt it's this easy, but it sure seems like it is.
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Post Post #560 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:42 pm

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In post 538, Dannflor wrote: I also don't really think it makes sense for Claptastik to think I'm townier than fakegod or kawaii
Just from this game? I agree. But, I read your D1 play in some recent games and it has me leaning town on you.
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Post Post #561 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:44 pm

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In post 559, Claptastik wrote: Currently I have black, neko, de70, and you north of null
Why did your opinion of me change
I scumread Alianna.

ALL HAIL THE SCUM QUEEN!
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Post Post #562 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:45 pm

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where do you have klick
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Post Post #563 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:47 pm

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In post 561, Black wrote:
In post 559, Claptastik wrote: Currently I have black, neko, de70, and you north of null
Why did your opinion of me change
First, some players I town read said this isn't your scum game.

Second, I did some meta and agree with your self assessment that you handle pressure better as scum.

Interestingly, I was doing meta on you and dann, and came across a scum game of yours where you replaced out, and dann took the slot. I thought that was pretty funny. But yeah, you were getting pressure, and you weren't freaking out.
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Post Post #564 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:47 pm

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In post 562, Dannflor wrote: where do you have klick
North of null. I've given reasons.
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Post Post #565 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:48 pm

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In post 559, Claptastik wrote:
In post 536, Dannflor wrote: i don't believe i said specifically was scummy, but i do think you seemed overly anxious to have bulletproof and unique reasons to be scum reading black

like you said enough in , and then i find your followup in to be more about the performance than anything else.

like i don't think you read all the posts you highlighted and have these thoughts. i think you wanted to scum read black and then reinforced that with afterwards

that's something town sometimes too but it comes from scum an awful lot of the time that want to make their reads seem more real, and more importantly, bulletproof to argue against
I'm town. You're projecting because it's something in your own scum bag of tricks. For example:
viewtopic.php?p=13971095#p13971095

I'm town. You should look elsewhere.

Currently I have black, neko, de70, and you north of null
skygazer null
fakegod, kawaii - scum pool

I guess I doubt it's this easy, but it sure seems like it is.
is there a reason you linked a scum game of mine besides to show off that you’ve been metaing people
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Post Post #566 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:51 pm

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In post 565, Dannflor wrote:
In post 559, Claptastik wrote:
In post 536, Dannflor wrote: i don't believe i said specifically was scummy, but i do think you seemed overly anxious to have bulletproof and unique reasons to be scum reading black

like you said enough in , and then i find your followup in to be more about the performance than anything else.

like i don't think you read all the posts you highlighted and have these thoughts. i think you wanted to scum read black and then reinforced that with afterwards

that's something town sometimes too but it comes from scum an awful lot of the time that want to make their reads seem more real, and more importantly, bulletproof to argue against
I'm town. You're projecting because it's something in your own scum bag of tricks. For example:
viewtopic.php?p=13971095#p13971095

I'm town. You should look elsewhere.

Currently I have black, neko, de70, and you north of null
skygazer null
fakegod, kawaii - scum pool

I guess I doubt it's this easy, but it sure seems like it is.
is there a reason you linked a scum game of mine besides to show off that you’ve been metaing people
LOL, yes, and I already gave the point. You were scum and early on gave a forced list case on someone. When I saw that the light bulb went on - he's scum reading me for a list case because he does it as scum.

Where I came from, cases like that were pretty standard town fare. They were tougher though because we didn't have the handy post number link tool.
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Post Post #567 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:53 pm

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VOTE: FakeGod
I scumread Alianna.

ALL HAIL THE SCUM QUEEN!
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Post Post #568 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:09 pm

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In post 553, Dannflor wrote: there's also an element of I think Klick is a great town player and he could be having an off game or i could be having an off game but if I give him time I'll be able to find him as town
What's so off about his game?
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Post Post #569 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:13 pm

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In post 188, FakeGod wrote: Now, if an actual quickhammer had occurred and the flip was scum, I would give massive towncred to the hammerer,
Why? Is bussing not a thing on this site?
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Post Post #570 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:38 pm

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In post 558, Dannflor wrote:
In post 368, Claptastik wrote:
In post 363, NekoLover wrote: yea tbh I don't like dann simply because he won't explain his train of thought
Problem is that someone with that join date and post count could very well be town, and could very well have good reads. And they're difficult to lim. It's a type that's good for investigatives to check.
i just want to quote this again to say i have a deep primal distaste for this post
You can taste it however you like, but it's accurate regardless.
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Post Post #571 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:39 pm

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In post 569, Claptastik wrote:
In post 188, FakeGod wrote: Now, if an actual quickhammer had occurred and the flip was scum, I would give massive towncred to the hammerer,
Why? Is bussing not a thing on this site?
I think its more so that why would someone buss their teammate day 1 page 2, especially if its not a guaranteed 100% town; even if it is scum, they don't know if a cop exists in this setup
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Post Post #572 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:12 pm

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In post 490, Klick wrote:In very brief: I was vaguely aware that Black was at E-1. I didn't care that much about it. In the very early stages of the game I find that sort of stuff somewhat amusing. If people want to do crazy stuff early on, that's their prerogative. Ultimately there's stuff to read into that sort of play. The E-1 contributed to us progressing the thread in a healthy way.

tl;dr risk-averse play during RVS is for losers.
I've come back from work and this post caught my eye. I am saddened.

It seems yet again that I'm faced with the stark reality that there are some players who will draw town and do anti-town things.

I did not expect Klick to just straight up admit that what he did was antitown and he doesn't care.

I have no coherent response.

Maybe page 2 E-1 wagon was just bunch of townies doing stunts, and I am simply... risk-averse.
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Post Post #573 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:12 pm

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #574 (ISO) » Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:20 pm

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I will be reassessing the game under the assumption that there was no scum involvement in the page 2 E-1 wagon.

Those of you who still want to talk to me, I'll try my best to respond.
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