Eminence in Shadow: Season 1 [Game Over]

[Big Chungus Gaming]

VOTE: Big Chungus Gaming

in context to what I personally perceive as "waking up" and improving my posting and knowing your level of play - I find this vote bizarre for a town POV - although I see some level of reasoning plausible, I find me dropping you from my townreads justified.

because from a scum POV, this is a grab to make sure to keep me viable in reaction to me picking up my behavior.

is PP town now btw? because I think - a more logical point to go towards in your shoes, at least to me if I believed your reads as they were, I would be wanting to push PP here and see how other slots act. I know better than to project my own thought process

everything is "i find this" and not "this is"

its hilarious that out of everything I posted in the past few pages, this is the best you had.

rug pulled successfully.

[Cephrir]

i don't think i stated anything to the effect that that was the best point i could possibly make. this word twisting is why i'm not really interested in engaging with you. it's merely the one that i chose to make

[Alisae]

i kind of like big chungus gaming

[Alisae]

where i think theres 0 mafia
[ssbm_Kyouko
pookythemagicalbear
Alisae
Whemestar
Sakura Hana
KawaiiKame
Luka
Klick]

paranoid/not there yet
[T3
Gamma Emerald
jjh927]

all mafia here tbh tbh
[Save the Dragons
Penguinpower
SirCakez
Cephrir
Dunnstral]

the top tier i think should be where all the PR shots go fwiw, even if you were to skip me

i like these towns

[Firebringer]

With a made up story he told the girl that she had been cursed. A group known as the Diabolus cult had been hunting her down for her possessed blood. Little did he know...it was true.

Day 1 - Our Story Begins
Vote Count 1.11

Big Chungus Gaming [5][E-4]-T3, Cephrir, Penguinpower, SirCakez, Dunnstral
Save the Dragons [2][E-7] Klick, Sakura Hana
Sir Cakez [2][E-7] - Alisae, Big Chungus Gaming
ssbm_Kyouko [2][E-7] - Gamma Emerald, jjh927
Dunnstral [2][E-7] - PookytheMagicalBear, Save The Dragons,
T3 [1][E-8]- KawaiiKame,
Gamma Emerald [1][E-8] - Luka,
Klick [1][E-8] - Whemestar


Lurking in Shadows (Not Voting - 1) : ssbm_Kyouko,

With 17 Alive, It Takes 9 to Eliminate.
Deadline is (expired on 2024-01-07 15:45:00)

Mod Note: STD has been prodded he has 24 hours to post. T3 is currently V/LA for 2 days. Sakura Hana is V/LA for next 3 days

[Save The Dragons]

@BCG - cephrir is town
@Cephrir - BCG is town

hope this helps

[Klick]

Hmm

[Klick]

UNVOTE:

Ceph I agree with Fen

[Alisae]

me too

[Klick]

I'm going to adjust my reads with less thought and more at-this-moment feel and probably wind up significantly more accurate

[Klick]

{KawaiiKame, Sakura Hana}
{T3, Cephrir, WhemeStar, Luka, Alisae, Chungus}
{STD, Cakez, Dunnstral}
{ssbm_Kyouko, Gamma, Penguin, Pooky, jjh}

Still feels imbalanced with players that I'd be expecting to not townread at the bottom anyway, but this feels more accurate than before

Out of the bottom the most sortable slots are probably Kyouko and Gamma but I don't have the effort atm

[Luka]

dunno my reads havent changed nobodys posted anything good

[SirCakez]

i think the fact that absolutely no1 wants to help me vote dunnstral means he's just mafia

What's your scum case on duun? I haven't read his iso.

I think the way he pushed me was disingenuous and convoluted. It felt like he had not overarching point and relied on weird verbal tricks to dance around me instead of sorting me. I felt that he never really felt curious about my alignment and wanted to project a lot of certainty about me being mafia which doesn't make sense to me because town!him has never been very good at catching me when I'm mafia like ever. He fell back to wild levels of ate and then quietly shrunk off to vote STD instead when it looked like he was getting nowhere instead of trying to convince anyone I am mafia.

This is a very misleading narrative construction

[SirCakez]

i do think that the wagon on me is overwhelmingly pushed by scum/willage and sometimes the line is hard to discern lmao

who is the scum on your wagon besides Ceph and me?

[Cephrir]

@BCG - cephrir is town
@Cephrir - BCG is town

hope this helps

UNVOTE:

Ceph I agree with Fen

Yet, Pharaoh remained unmoved.

[Save The Dragons]

pharoahs a dummy then

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: kyouko back to this

[Cephrir]

pharoah

[Save The Dragons]

why the long face

[Cephrir]

it's a joke that's essentially only for me so idk why i posted it

[Save The Dragons]

isn't that the horse's name

[Klick]

But today isn't Friday

[Dunnstral]

T3 - What do you think of 504?

I thought that there was a chance you could be disingenuous scum but I buy your explanation

Subject: Hollow Knight Mafia [game over]

wow klick not gonna even bother asking ME about my petapan fanboy townread.
Rude af

Klick honorary scum.

If you can convince me petapan is town I'm also happy to hear it!
The other fire has a way of speaking to my soul though

Here's Klick using the same language as town in a past game btw

What do you think my explanation was? Are you talking about 495?

Yes.

I was under the impression that you were saying "Klick has a scum mindset because he said 'convince me' rather than 'explain to me'"
I thought this was a bad read, and perhaps disingenuous, but I buy your explanation of "I've seen that phrasing be used many times, but I can't say with confidence it's from both alignments" (or something to that effect)

that's not what I meant at all - I don't think he's scum for the wording, I don't doubt he could use those words as either alignment. In the game you linked, he's been playing from the start.

My point is, one of the first things he did on replacing in, was ask to be convinced that the leading wagon is on scum. This makes sense when the VC is more contentious (think competing E-2 wagons), when the game is longer, and reading a lot of pages will be time-consuming, or when the deadline is shorter, and there isn't enough time to read.

None of that applied here which is why I thought it was scummy. What bugs me maybe even more though is your defense of Klick. I dont know why you're first assuming my read is based on Klick's verbiage, and then why you decided to pull meta on Klick to support town!Klick when as far as I can tell you haven't expressed a TR on me (wanting to steer your TRs the right direction) or Klick(wanting today defend your TRs). I'm thinking there's a possibility that my playstyle is being discussed in the scum PT and I'm being targeted for pocketing, which would mean someone on the scumteam is very familiar with me. That brings Gamma and Koba to my mind right off the bat

I assumed your read was based on Klick's verbiage, yes. I don't see why my misunderstanding of your read makes me scum. I do not have a strong read on either you or Klick, and I defended him from you because I thought your point was illogical. And how does this connect to pocketing you at all?

I feel like the simplest conclusion one would draw reading my 495 is not that my scumread was based on Klick's verbiage, but that it's based on my thinking Klick did not display a town mindset in his [ppst]412[/post]. However, someone who knows me well would know that it is not uncommon for me to nitpick on verbiage as town. I have often found that players' particular word choices are strange and done meta-dives where I check if a player normally uses those words. It feels like you, T3, were familiar with that, and you delivered the evidence of town!Klick to me unprompted, and in a manner that I would normally find Klick to be town for myself if this particular SR on Klick was based on his verbiage. I do not think you should have that level of familiarity with my play, which makes me think that you are in a PT with someone that advised you on my meta. Of this playerlist, that someone is almost certainly one of Gamma or Koba, or maybe Dunnstral.

ok i am just reading this but imma be real with u but even if i was scum i would not have been able to tell anyone much about your play and how to play around your slot, a side effect of having a good handle on your alignment very quickly is that i barely pick up on more nuanced parts of your play :skull:

i will say - t3 knowing who I am fairly quick was something mild that pinged me earlier (if I am remembering correctly. I sure am having some bad memory problems this game huh)
I never announced my name, and it was mostly known to pooky afaik from the last game i played on this account(and by extension dunnstral too actually)

i will keep t3/dunn as paired in the back of my head though - in my experience this is more a kinda "bragging rights" type of read that is too variable to commit to but good to think about when sorting other content.

Subject: hi, i'm large normal 242. and i'm over with.

1. Not_Mafia
   Gamma Emerald
   
   
2. Enchant
   Nero Cain
   
   
3. Frogsterking
   
4. MalcolmTucker
   
5. Alisae
   Greeting
   
   
6. KittyTacky
   
7. JohnnyFarrar
   Big Chungus Gaming,
   Crescent
   
   
8. Lukewarm
   Save The Dragons
   
   
9. furtiveglance
   Fennec
   
   
10. PookyTheMagicalBear
    
11. Cape90
    
12. Titus
    SirRhett
    
    
13. Toogeloo
    
14. MathBlade
    Charloux
    
    
15. marcistar
    
16. MariaR

I wasn't in this game.

[Dunnstral]

I don't find the extreme omgus and bad faith arguments coming from Big Chungus Gaming slot to be town
I don't think Pooky is town either

It is annoying to me that both are being binned as town for wall posting arguments without really reading into the arguments. That's the feeling I get at least.

[Cephrir]

I also think both of those players are scum