Open 897 - Cop 17er [DAY 6]

[usesPython]

Right now, I see Drew/Gob and ccs/Chell.

It doesnt look like Titus is going to defend herself anymore
I suppose Bella can hammer

The timing on these two posts specifically feel unpartnered if we're assuming a cross site activity read

[usesPython]

VOTE: dave

[usesPython]

Nae can go into the towncore

[usesPython]

The timing on these two posts specifically feel unpartnered if we're assuming a cross site activity read

Like it feels like Naerys saw the post, waited a bit to see if Titus would start posting in this game too, then made the freeze read when that didn't happen

[Doctor Drew]

Right now, I see Drew/Gob and ccs/Chell.

It doesnt look like Titus is going to defend herself anymore
I suppose Bella can hammer

The timing on these two posts specifically feel unpartnered if we're assuming a cross site activity read

Were these posts at about the same time?

[usesPython]

Right now, I see Drew/Gob and ccs/Chell.

It doesnt look like Titus is going to defend herself anymore
I suppose Bella can hammer

The timing on these two posts specifically feel unpartnered if we're assuming a cross site activity read

Were these posts at about the same time?

[usesPython]

Naerys dropped 2446 then 27 minutes later Titus posts in Mini Normal 2317 then 87 minutes after that Naerys makes the freeze read in 2447

[Doctor Drew]

Right now, I see Drew/Gob and ccs/Chell.

It doesnt look like Titus is going to defend herself anymore
I suppose Bella can hammer

The timing on these two posts specifically feel unpartnered if we're assuming a cross site activity read

Were these posts at about the same time?

Listen, I went to sleep at 4am after beer, shots, and champagne. I realized it after the fact lol.

[Bellaphant]

I'm not sure why Python voted me, they've taken up similar positions to me for most of the game (especially recently).

We're bored and voting literally anyone in our POE, this day is taking forever

This.

@furtive, I did say I was drunk though!! It's also pretty clear that I don't think nearys is scum and the wagon on her is sketch. I'm honestly not that hard to read.

[Doctor Drew]

I'm not sure why Python voted me, they've taken up similar positions to me for most of the game (especially recently).

We're bored and voting literally anyone in our POE, this day is taking forever

This.

@furtive, I did say I was drunk though!! It's also pretty clear that I don't think nearys is scum and the wagon on her is sketch. I'm honestly not that hard to read.

More votes on Dave

[Bellaphant]

Who would you prefer?

Do you have any independent reads?

Does scum!Dave make this post?

[Bellaphant]

That's less rhetorical than it looks as a question

[Gamma Emerald]

Who would you prefer?

I posted a list earlier
I would like to have a day to re-assess if wrong on someone, voting outside my main suspects does very little to facilitate that especially if it’s a townflip
So a good scumcase would sway me from my current position, in fact

[Doctor Drew]

Who would you prefer?

Do you have any independent reads?

Does scum!Dave make this post?

I don't see how this post is AI at all

[Gamma Emerald]

yeah gamma hasn't been confident on anything lately or pushed anything. Its kind of annoying how detached she is from the game and not putting effort.

the whole ??? when I asked for effort was weird to me because I think its clear gamma doesn't have head in the game.

I’m in a bit of a “other things are more fun” funk
As a result I think once my current games conclude I’m gonna go back to the shadows

[Gamma Emerald]

Naerys dropped 2446 then 27 minutes later Titus posts in Mini Normal 2317 then 87 minutes after that Naerys makes the freeze read in 2447

you’re making sense, I don’t like it
UNVOTE:

[Gamma Emerald]

Who would you prefer?

Do you have any independent reads?

Does scum!Dave make this post?

idk but it’s a kinda bad post imo
I don’t see how that sort of thing is called for in that scenario?

[davesaz]

If Bellaphant has scumreads, then vote them rather than asking others who they prefer.

[davesaz]

5 days is more than enough time to see if actual wagons of substance develop in the absence of trying to get compromises.

[davesaz]

Titus votes Dragon. Fire votes Dragon the very next post
Python votes Titus
Gamma unvotes from Titus and votes Naerys 30 posts later

Naerys and yess vote Titus
Ari unvotes Titus (after 41 posts gap) and moves to Dragon (5 posts)
Dragon to Fire
Gamma (after 7) and yes (next post) to Dragon

Fire, Ari, Gamma, yess. I strongly feel we should figure out which of these 4 is(are) the scum who joined Titus on Dragon.

[Gamma Emerald]

blegh
As I said, I would like her to make/restate the case for why furtive is scum. That seems like the most productive option

[yessiree]

I will read the games tonight, but I just want to be clear that the other sussy thing is votes and cw: I do believe Titus was bussed (and If I was scum with both of you I'd rather keep you alive), you were on the dragon wagon, and it seems super hard to actually get votes on you:: we start wagonning you and like five votes popped up for nearys instantly - I guess this is something you could give your thoughts on

this is a super weird question to ask me here? wouldn't this be something you should comment on if you think you're pushing scum!me and my teammates are coming to my defense by voting counter wagons?

The simple answer to this is just that there was never any compelling scum case me so people aren't inclined to join? cause i dunno what else to tell you, I think you're just hyper focused on my wagons since you're the one championing it? iirc the events that happened today - people were already pushing Naerys (Gamme)/RCE early today but there was only a wagon on RCE, and when Mueh came back there was a burst of activity, the wagon on RCE dissolved so the new votes just kinda happened to coincide between Naerys and me

I never voted on any of my counter wagons today because they don't align with my gamestate read, the only counter wagon i hopped on was Titus but that was yesterday

Bella having this read is pretty valid. I spent a bit evaluating my read once the naerys counterwagon popped up because like I said I had no counterwagon, pressure moved to you and naerys caught heat directly after.

I don’t think it indicates you being scum but scumreading that chain of events is fair.

I have been mulling over this and yeah I can kinda see this mindset coming from Bella!town

[RCEnigma]

blegh
As I said, I would like her to make/restate the case for why furtive is scum. That seems like the most productive option

VOTE: Furtive

Bella can give her own but I think Furtives scumminess boils down to:

-The hyperfixation on specific slots. Bella being the main one. But if you iso Furtive it’s just 80% calling out Bella or responding to statements from Python. It’s even more scum indicative of it happened that way in reaction to a read from Bella but I didn’t go back that far in the game for the context of when it started because I wasn’t specifically looking for it, just kinda popped out.

-personally I find furtive more as a passive scum player, not so much that way as town. I had one brief moment in day 1 I thought furtive could be town for the way they were pushing an opinion against the grain of their own townreads. I think it’s a little more difficult for scum!furtive but the majority of the game has been passive voting and reactionary reads.

-Literally no mention/interaction with anything kyouko/Titus related. Which is convenient in a way… but also pretty suspicious. I get not being around for every event that pops up in game, but not even like a quoted post in passing or any commentary on anything that had anything to do with the slot that flipped scum is a red flag I didn’t know was there till I did an iso read through.

[yessiree]

Okay, for today there are main three suspects: yessiree, myself, davesaz
As for myself, i am town. Whenever you feel some concer about me, feel free to throw it at me. I will answer them as best as i can, even if i sometimes yell my frustration out.

yessiree
- Well he is hard to read for me, played only one game with him, where he was alien. And i have to admit that i basically spent whole game following Flavor without paying much attention, so its quite hard for me to compare yessiree in that game with him here. I will be frank, i dont like his levity. Is he always like this? That faked hammer is giving me bad vibes.
@yessiree Who are your solid town reads and whom do you SR?

why lock ur vision on these 3 players specifically just because they are the flavor of the day? Remember that conformity is not always necessary since people can be wrong, and no one is stopping you from expanding ur horizon to see the bigger picture and it's a good idea to keep that in mind if u r town

to answer ur question: i don't like taking things too seriously, that takes the fun out of everything - this trait should be present in all my games, or maybe i'm just a nihilist?

in terms of reads this is where im at:

Mueh
Gamma, python
bella, naerys, RCE
hu tao, Doctor Drew
Enchant, Aristeia
davesaz, furtiveglance


I'm leaving firebringer out because i have zero confidence in reading him and dont wanna spend too much energy sorting him, i like seeing him cook tho, he should cook some more

[Firebringer]

is cook code for solving
i refuse