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Post Post #1475 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 8:03 am

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In post 1428, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1409, Alisae wrote:
In post 1389, Gamma Emerald wrote: This is an open call-to-action until stated otherwise: if kyouko attempts to eliminate Cakez after I die, kill her.
you are defending a wolfclaimed player
Do. You. Think. I. Give. A. Shit. What. You. Think?
I want to town lock this
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Post Post #1476 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 8:15 am

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In post 1474, Luka wrote:
In post 1425, Sakura Hana wrote: You know what, sure, my vote isnt doing anything and i dont townread Cakez, heck i've gone into scumreading him a couple times but then back to neutral.
VOTE: Cakez
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Post Post #1477 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 8:19 am

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In post 1475, Luka wrote:
In post 1428, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1409, Alisae wrote:
In post 1389, Gamma Emerald wrote: This is an open call-to-action until stated otherwise: if kyouko attempts to eliminate Cakez after I die, kill her.
you are defending a wolfclaimed player
Do. You. Think. I. Give. A. Shit. What. You. Think?
I want to town lock this
It's in her range
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Post Post #1478 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:18 am

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I'm starting to lose faith in my pooky tr
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Post Post #1479 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:24 am

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In post 1478, Save The Dragons wrote: I'm starting to lose faith in my pooky tr
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Post Post #1480 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:37 am

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Working on a {Gamma, Cakez, T3?, ???} solve rn. I was just reading Gamma's ISO as some recent posts pinged me and I realize now she's scum

confident in scum!Gamma
somewhat confident in scum!Cakez
Mostly pre-flipping T3 into this team based on scum!Gamma's interactions with/around the slot combined with the fact T3 posted that Klick meta for me unprompted. This could be town even with scum!Gamma but I feel like the way Gamma's played around this slot TMIs a buddy

Doesn't matter
BCG - BCG can read me like 100% of the time as town, so as scum he can't really mislim me without looking really bad, and as town he's being truthful that he's likely to die within the first few Nights, which, frankly, is good news for me. I don't have any need to read him.

confident town
Alisae - Don't think e's bussing. It just isn't the time - have explained this one already p sure
Whemestar - vibes mostly, and I can see from Gamma's posting Wheme is town.

TR
Sakura - Couldn't really point to anything specific from memory, and I'm making this mostly from memory, but I feel like I've had this feeling about her since early on and nothing she posts ever makes me doubt it. Many things she posts reinforce this for me.
Luka - I feel like I had a concrete reason early on, he was one of my earliest TRs. I can't remember right now. I do think given his recent posting while Cakez catches heat this could potentially be the 4th scum who is in a decent position right now. If I'm TRing scum, this is it.
Klick/Duelist Kage - DK had a sussy entrance but I feel like I've been watching Klick gradually improve his solve without making any unreasonable jumps, and I think his reasoning on KK is well-written. I don't get the feeling that was scum!Klick whiteknighting or anything. If I'm not mistaken, Alisae has maybe vouched for this slot as well?
KawaiiKame - I have reason to believe KK sheeping me early on was town-motivated, and I agree with the towncase presented by Klick.

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jjh - Early chuuni posting was kinda cringe, but the whole "lord and savior sort by post count" wagon on him felt too easy, and his recent posting looks better. I feel like I disagree with a lot of his reads but that he is probably still town just looking at the whole game
Cephrir - mostly this is vibes, but I also think that STD can be taken at his word regardless of his alignment. It seems like these 2 have a history to the point that if STD were scum, he has to hard play around Cephrir. Which means either STD is scum and has TMIed Cehprir, or STD is town and this is a meta read that is reasonably strong and can be sheeped.

null
Pooky - Not sure - early on have had him as town, because people were sheeping him around, but I feel like scum!Pooky is probably expected to lead charges like that and what we've seen so far is NAI. I'm actually going to drop him from TL to null now that I'm writing this. He's more like nulltown but I don't want to add a new section.
Dunnstral - idk, really I just remember someone recently saying he did mech talk in the beginning and that's kinda snooze to me because mech-oriented players are going to talk mech as a NAI thing.

nullscum
STD - I don't really know what makes him towny aside from him being the rebound/default wagon after others were dying off. As I said in Cephrir's explanation, I think STD has to make that read on Cephrir if he's scum and Ceph is town, so I don't want to give towncred to STD for it.
Penguinpower - an actual batman villain (The Riddler)
T3 - Just makes a lot of sense for him to be scum if Gamma is scum, and Gamma is scum.

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Cakez - I've pointed out the post that makes Cakez scum but don't want to explain why it does in case I play with him again in the future

confident scum
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Post Post #1481 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:40 am

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gross
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Post Post #1482 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:42 am

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VOTE: Gamma Emerald
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Post Post #1483 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:45 am

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I want kyouko to justify this because a) I don’t like this completely unexplained read on me when she’s been able to muster something in past games and b) because I have an idea of what it might be for, in which case it’s a garbage reactionary read
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Post Post #1484 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:46 am

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In post 1479, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 1478, Save The Dragons wrote: I'm starting to lose faith in my pooky tr
Why?
Pooky hasn't made a page top counter or asked me to join a cult
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Post Post #1485 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:47 am

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I don't have to hard play around ceph I'm better at divining his alignment than he is mine
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Post Post #1486 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:47 am

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VOTE: kyouko
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Post Post #1487 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:54 am

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In post 1480, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: Penguinpower - an actual batman villain (The Riddler)
This actually made me laugh
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Post Post #1488 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:56 am

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So like
STD is good at figuring out Ceph's alignment (Town)
Klick is good at figuring out Kawaii's alignment (Town)
BCG is good at figuring out Kyouko's alignment (Town)

At the moment i have no reason to believe any of these 3 are scum, and for as long as that's true im willing to take them on their word about the other 3, so that's... basically 6 free TRs.
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Post Post #1489 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:57 am

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Ok i guess 6 isnt exactly accurate, more like 3, coz the other 3 arent exactly free
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Post Post #1490 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 10:03 am

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I have literally no idea how to read Gamma, but Kyouko, if she's a super confident SR, why would you rather eliminate Cakez first? (Judging by your current vote)
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Post Post #1491 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 10:12 am

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In post 1480, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: Penguinpower - an actual batman villain (The Riddler)
But...I'm a penguin...
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Post Post #1492 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 10:13 am

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In post 1490, Sakura Hana wrote: I have literally no idea how to read Gamma, but Kyouko, if she's a super confident SR, why would you rather eliminate Cakez first? (Judging by your current vote)
good question.

well done.
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Post Post #1493 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 10:16 am

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In post 1488, Sakura Hana wrote: So like
STD is good at figuring out Ceph's alignment (Town)
Klick is good at figuring out Kawaii's alignment (Town)
BCG is good at figuring out Kyouko's alignment (Town)

At the moment i have no reason to believe any of these 3 are scum, and for as long as that's true im willing to take them on their word about the other 3, so that's... basically 6 free TRs.
this is literally one of my secrets of my play is figuring out who is sheepable on who LMAO.
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Post Post #1494 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 10:18 am

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In post 1475, Luka wrote:
In post 1428, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1409, Alisae wrote:
In post 1389, Gamma Emerald wrote: This is an open call-to-action until stated otherwise: if kyouko attempts to eliminate Cakez after I die, kill her.
you are defending a wolfclaimed player
Do. You. Think. I. Give. A. Shit. What. You. Think?
I want to town lock this
just FYI gamma can channel frustration as scum too, but if you know Gamma, you can tell the subtleties of scum gamma frustration and town gamma frustration when it is a prolonged matter
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Post Post #1495 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 10:18 am

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In post 1474, Luka wrote:
In post 1425, Sakura Hana wrote: You know what, sure, my vote isnt doing anything and i dont townread Cakez, heck i've gone into scumreading him a couple times but then back to neutral.
VOTE: Cakez
Vote feels bad and nervous
i think u are hungry for tinfoil
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Post Post #1496 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 10:20 am

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In post 1456, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1449, Big Chungus Gaming wrote:
In post 1448, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 1437, Big Chungus Gaming wrote: cephrir alignment kinda important to really crack this game open imo, last time i played vs scum him it did take me many game days to bury him and only thru sheer luck of a replacement who self cleared for me and several blunders around his slot - I find it high priority to have any investigatives used on that slot.
It'd be a waste at this point I'm pretty sure he's town
if thats the case, what would make them scum here? because i went back to the game where they were caught only in late game, and his posts in THAT game were better than here - and that I attribute to having mechs to hide behind.
I actually can kind of see where you get a scumread of me from if that game is your primary meta lmao

I'm kind of hard to pin down with meta. At one point notoriously so. I will say that at baseline I make "better" posts as scum because I care about appearing to make sense, but I'm very aware of that baseline so idk if it's even useful anymore
ok well I've shown my spotlight for now, its only d1, and theres enough plausibility + logical sense in the explanation by others townreading you that I can solve safely without considering your slot atp.
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Post Post #1497 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 10:21 am

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In post 1467, WhemeStar wrote: Honestly I always get reads based on how ppl interact with my wagon when I get ran up day 1 and usually I’m always right so u guys are rly fckin this up
scummy performative post VOTE: wheme
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Post Post #1498 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 10:32 am

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In post 1480, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: SR
Cakez - I've pointed out the post that makes Cakez scum but don't want to explain why it does in case I play with him again in the future
I find this to be incredibly obnoxious fyi, Cabd used to do the same thing where he'd go "oh I figured out Cakez' tells but I'm going to keep them secret from him" and it bothered me a lot then too
I already got mad at Ali this game for basically the same thing but at least Ali didn't declare intent to lord it over me for the indefinite future
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Post Post #1499 (ISO) » Wed Jan 03, 2024 10:34 am

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overall i find gamma's scumhunting to be a bit limp outside of brief bursts of feeling (unimportant but i kind of wonder if she is turning on the emotion spigot because she isn't getting townread thus far), and i think it's largely reaction oriented and mildly omgusy not so much proactive
In post 635, Gamma Emerald wrote: VOTE: Luka
In post 159, Luka wrote: Sakura / Whem / Pooky / T3 as town
VOTE: Gamma
I feel like most of these slots stated as town were sorted far too quickly based on Luka’s prior posts, I’m leaning on most if not all those slots being TMIed town
this is one post that did jump out to me as somewhat proactive, but it also feels like it probably only caught her eye because of the vote for her

i still want pooky dead a lot more but not a huge fan
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