Mafia Reunion | Postgame

[Theta Alpine]

the description of win cons and powers deas has suggests an alternative to an ic for this game

they arent even town

i fail to see for what other reason they would have a confirmation mechanic like they do

[DeasVail]

Flavor, is there a reason for the false sense of urgency given KawaiiKame hasn't even been replaced yet?

i dont have that much urgency, im just kicking this game into the next gear, but idk why any of that matters? we have 25 hours left. is deadline getting extended?

if not, this is not a good post from you.

What is the relevance of whether a post from me is “good” or not?

[Narration]

Day 1 Count V

DeasVail (4) - Doctor Drew, Aureal, Titus, Not Known 15
Theta Alpine (2) - Flavor Leaf, Thomith
Radical Rat (1) - KittyTacky
KittyTacky (1) - Radical Rat
DXtreme (1) - Roden
Titus (1) - SirCakez
Not Known 15 (1) - Theta Alpine

Not Voting

- biancospino, DeasVail, Gamma Emerald, KawaiiKame

Notes

• With 15 remaining, it takes 8 to form a majority.
  
• My mod ISO is here.
  
• Thomith replaces DXtreme
  
• Gamma Emerald replaces Celebloki
  
• Please let me know if you have any queries or there are errors in my VCs.

Day 1

concludes in (expired on 2024-01-05 08:45:00)

[DeasVail]

Btw I confirmed with Narration that if I win while still alive in the game, then I leave the game. Could be a free elim? But I’m not actually too focused on that at the moment

[DeasVail]

Mod:

what will happen to the deadline of kawaii is not replaced?

[Narration]

Mod:

what will happen to the deadline of kawaii is not replaced?

It'll probably remain as is. Though, I'm going to put a public replacement request now since I can't be sure if T3 still wants the slot.

[Flavor Leaf]

all eliminations that come the following day wont happen? so like, day 2 you're immune, not day 1?

[Doctor Drew]

I remember a game awhile back where 3p made a similar type 'Don't worry about me town, I totally am harmless' and the town let them live. In that game Titus was adamant that you should never let 3p live since they are by definition not town and not in the business of helping town.

I may be confusing a couple games but I seem to remember the 3p screwing over town and Titus was correct(maybe she can help me jog my memory).

Point is, DV is not town and DV should not live.

At best he is being truthful and won't directly hurt town(realistically in this case he is purposely hiding something more about his role, even in a best case). Worst case he is completely lying and can hurt us as town, or is just scum trying to claim benevolent 3p.

Either way, they should be disposed of today so he doesn't become a bigger issue going forward.

[Theta Alpine]

fine then

it is lined up so that deas can either be eliminated today or alternatively
day three unless they win night 2 and get removed from the game
which can actually happen if someone targets deas night 2 that deas learned the name of night 1

if someone with a low impact power wants to volunteer to do that for deas then we can just save deas for day three if he is still alive then

or if four more people decide to do this then i guess not but we will see

[Aureal]

Dreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew

Theta. Is. Right.

This is no time to be friggin paranoid about a pretty freaking confirmable slot that benefits us while it's here. Actually winning and leaving is likely the biggest harm it can inflict! And you guys want to self-inflict that when we need to use our votes on the enthusiast faction?!?

[DeasVail]

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

Join me, my dear invited guests!

Flavor Leaf wishes to have all of you scurry along with him like rats to the pied piper, but not if I have anything to say about it!

It is true, I am not part of the town, and do I know whether Flavor Leaf is town or scum? No! I do not. But do I care? Only a little if I'm being totally honest. The point is that such a spectacular coup would be fun!

If there is a more boring and sensible option then I will join in on that, but until then…

[DeasVail]

(I do think it would be a little silly to eliminate me given that I am probably the least likely person here to be part of the cult, but I knew the risk of claiming and couldn’t be bothered pretending to be town, so I’ll deserve my elimination if it happens)

[Doctor Drew]

Dreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew

Theta. Is. Right.

This is no time to be friggin paranoid about a pretty freaking confirmable slot that benefits us while it's here. Actually winning and leaving is likely the biggest harm it can inflict! And you guys want to self-inflict that when we need to use our votes on the enthusiast faction?!?

I demand a formal apology on my desk first thing after DV screws us over

[SirCakez]

VOTE: titus

Don't like this not just because it's on me. We have a confessed person who doesn't have our wincon. I don't get why you'd unvote DV here.

because it's day one and I wanna get scum scum not the third party which is confirmed to exist

in what world do you think we hit scum here with 25 hours left with zero major candidates?

it can definitely happen

[Flavor Leaf]

I remember a game awhile back where 3p made a similar type 'Don't worry about me town, I totally am harmless' and the town let them live. In that game Titus was adamant that you should never let 3p live since they are by definition not town and not in the business of helping town.

I may be confusing a couple games but I seem to remember the 3p screwing over town and Titus was correct(maybe she can help me jog my memory).

Point is, DV is not town and DV should not live.

At best he is being truthful and won't directly hurt town(realistically in this case he is purposely hiding something more about his role, even in a best case). Worst case he is completely lying and can hurt us as town, or is just scum trying to claim benevolent 3p.

Either way, they should be disposed of today so he doesn't become a bigger issue going forward.

im not even like that big on that on a mafilosophical level, i just feel like we have the opportunity to just deal with it now being so close to deadline anyways.

[SirCakez]

I could also maybe do KittyTacky? They have felt the least town to me of the notable players.

[Aureal]

Dreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew

Theta. Is. Right.

This is no time to be friggin paranoid about a pretty freaking confirmable slot that benefits us while it's here. Actually winning and leaving is likely the biggest harm it can inflict! And you guys want to self-inflict that when we need to use our votes on the enthusiast faction?!?

I demand a formal apology on my desk first thing after DV screws us over

Explain how that can happen plz, not general handwaving paranoia

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: titus

Don't like this not just because it's on me. We have a confessed person who doesn't have our wincon. I don't get why you'd unvote DV here.

because it's day one and I wanna get scum scum not the third party which is confirmed to exist

in what world do you think we hit scum here with 25 hours left with zero major candidates?

it can definitely happen

eh, i know if i were scum, it would never happen. just too easy to play it. not everyone can be me, i get it, but you just need 1 solid scum player able to shift weight and it's done.

There's also strats that can be done, like purposefully becoming scummy to split town's votes on a scum/scum counterwagon and move it onto town.

it's just so unlikely from any coordinated scum team and requires town to trust each other temporarily and momentarily come together.

[Doctor Drew]

I remember a game awhile back where 3p made a similar type 'Don't worry about me town, I totally am harmless' and the town let them live. In that game Titus was adamant that you should never let 3p live since they are by definition not town and not in the business of helping town.

I may be confusing a couple games but I seem to remember the 3p screwing over town and Titus was correct(maybe she can help me jog my memory).

Point is, DV is not town and DV should not live.

At best he is being truthful and won't directly hurt town(realistically in this case he is purposely hiding something more about his role, even in a best case). Worst case he is completely lying and can hurt us as town, or is just scum trying to claim benevolent 3p.

Either way, they should be disposed of today so he doesn't become a bigger issue going forward.

im not even like that big on that on a mafilosophical level, i just feel like we have the opportunity to just deal with it now being so close to deadline anyways.

Oh, that is a big part of it as well, per my last sentence there.

This will always loom over us

Pre Edit: Aureal, so you buy DV's claim as fact?

[Doctor Drew]

I literally have been 3p and wondered how I can claim to make myself seem 'useful' to town.

Don't Lim all lurkers D1, don't let 3p live ever

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

Join me, my dear invited guests!

Flavor Leaf wishes to have all of you scurry along with him like rats to the pied piper, but not if I have anything to say about it!

It is true, I am not part of the town, and

do I know whether Flavor Leaf is town or scum? No! I do not. But do I care? Only a little if I'm being totally honest.

The point is that such a spectacular coup would be fun!

If there is a more boring and sensible option then I will join in on that, but until then…

See what i mean.

they are inherently not here for town, and only claimed because they wanted they were looking to be faded, and didnt want to use their other ability yet. Then when it looked like it wasn't gonna work, they used the ability.

they're an unreliable narrator.

[Flavor Leaf]

it's even worse considering I was the one pushing Titus, the one pushing DV at first.

I had no interest in the DV wagon until 3rd party claim + noticing how close deadline we were.

And a FL wagon is specifically a ploy because me out of the way with this mindset is a giant boon to DV surviving longer term.


Also, if I'm reading what happened correctly, DV can be up for elim today still, but they wont be able to be taken out tomorrow?

[Flavor Leaf]

do people really not understand to hit an enthusiast today, you can't have as much dissonance as we have right here? it's just not happening unless we get lucky on a flash wagon and scum are specifically unprepared.

Like I'm okay with discussion around whether or not we should hit the 3rd party, but i think the players hard defending and jumping through hoops have scum in them, so if we move off of DV, I think Theta, Aureal, or Cakez now is a good pool to go after.

[Flavor Leaf]

Cakez didn't really do that, I just town read Kitty right now, so i threw him in, but they are def on the least. I kinda like Aureal too, but im really not a fan of that mentality and defense of a non town.

[Titus]

Each night, if get a good night's sleep, I get 3 real names, 2 of which must be town.

2 must be town, the 3rd could be either?

Yes, by implication. The language says (paraphrasing) must be town without mentioning scum or 3p.