In post 175, DeasVail wrote:
In post 165, implosion wrote:
In post 163, Klick wrote:
@implosion: Then what do you think of my post which was basically the same thing?
Your post is rhetorically very different and also I think your group has a much higher chance of being all town
I am confused, am I missing something?
I'm not sure what the confusion is about? I elaborated in
169. If you mean about the group being all town, Dragoneater's group also had Appearance in it.
Yes.
In post 181, DragonEater70 wrote:
I totally understand your annoyance if you are town, but you gotta realize I got to get the game moving and currently that's the only thread I can pull on, and I will abuse it as much as I can to move the game forward.
I'm not really impressed with your self meta and general reaction to my push. If you are town and want to help me sort you, can you answer these questions please:
Who do you think has acted in an actual scummy way or did things you can point out as scum-motivated, other than just not being out of their scumrange like DV?
What do you think of Kyo's recent posting?
What do you think about my interaction with Klick and our reads on each other? (I'm interested both in your thoughts about his read on me, and my read on him).
These questions aren't busywork btw, they will definitely help me sort you.
This response is making me question my read on you. It feels like scum trying not to look like they're tunneling/trying not to piss me off while still wanting to keep me in their scumreads. Particularly the first line, like, what do you mean I'm the only thread you can pull on, that's not even vaguely true. I also kind of don't believe you actually think these questions will help sort me. I think this makes a
lot
of sense as a ploy from scum who has already decided to just shove me in a bucket and move on until after the coalition phase is over, but who feels they can't say that out loud because they'll have to work with me when the coalition fails.
"Who do you think has acted in an actual scummy way or did things you can point out as scum-motivated" is a very bad question to ask me in general. This post is actually the first example this game ironically but there are plenty of games where I simply don't get any real scumreads d1. I usually mostly find town.
I mentioned I think kyouko healing just Elements is a weird thing to come from scum. Just in the sense of like, it's not an action that would really be contributing to her win condition because Elements isn't exactly a player controlling the conversation of the game, and in my mind kyouko is a generally good player. That argument sort of applies to if she's town as well but I think townies are more likely to just do weird shit sometimes. The post timing on 140/141 is something fascinating that I'm just noticing now, it might imply that she is actually reading the game but is being coy with thoughts because I'm not sure what you'd do for 20 minutes that would result in making post 141 otherwise, which would be townish if true because scum who is actually reading the game has not much reason to be coy in this setup unless she's scum with someone who is or who looked very likely to end up on coalition, e.g. you.
Reading through your/Klick's interactions nothing looks especially meaningful in either direction. The first interaction is interesting but kind of a commonplace kind of thing in mafia these days. Is there something in particular you think I should be seeing? The dynamic of you being the two people who are starting to actually push coalitions is something, in principle Klick doesn't have a ton of need to do that at the point he did as scum with you doing it for him (and you're quite unlikely to be scum together both pushing to both be on the coalition with each other).