In post 1098, Radical Rat wrote:
I may have made a slight error in that I actually wanted this to happen later, but I suppose there's no use beating around the bush now.
I have a PT with DeasVail. He'll be winning today, and further discourse around him is a distraction. This is what I meant when I said I was partially confirmable.
Under which wincon?
I visited him last night (that's where the PT came from), and was his only visitor. I've given him my name in exchange for him continuing to play pro-Town for the remainder of the day, but he said he was afraid of the day ending early while he was asleep and that he'd be submitting soon.
Which... yeah, guess I can't really blame him there, no sense just sitting on the win like that.
Did you ask the mod if we can win with the 3p if their claim is true?
Doesn't sound like it since RR said afterwards we can shout at them if the game ends.
In post 1116, Thomith wrote:
I mean all Titus' information gives is 2 town names, we have no idea if the third one is town or scum, it's random.
If DV appears as town to investigatives, then we don't really learn anything.
Yeah, but if this is an exception to DV's immunity, we have two hard innos.
It's something Titus will need to ask once the flip happens.
In post 1116, Thomith wrote:
I mean all Titus' information gives is 2 town names, we have no idea if the third one is town or scum, it's random.
If DV appears as town to investigatives, then we don't really learn anything.
Yeah, but if this is an exception to DV's immunity, we have two hard innos.
It's something Titus will need to ask once the flip happens.
In post 1116, Thomith wrote:
I mean all Titus' information gives is 2 town names, we have no idea if the third one is town or scum, it's random.
If DV appears as town to investigatives, then we don't really learn anything.
Yeah, but if this is an exception to DV's immunity, we have two hard innos.
It's something Titus will need to ask once the flip happens.
DV's immunity?
They said they appear as Town to cops.
I thought you might have been an exception, given the passive nature of your results, but based on your new wording of "not enemy to Town" it sure sounds like DV would appear as inno, making this whole thing a lot less helpful. Still should get explicit confirmation post-flip though.
Maybe the real Mafia was the friends we made along the way
In post 1071, Maestro wrote:
like, I'm not sure how this role doesn't literally force a player into conflict w/ Mafia rules if Roden is telling the truth & Cult as I understand it is in this game, & we can't know either of those things but whatever - maybe I should stop talkin
Well, people, both scum and town, don’t know Roden’s Real Name, so if they target their Real Name, and Roden activates it, they won’t know they’re targeting Roden.
Then if Roden self activates and it shows someone targeted them, then it counters the idea that they couldn’t have been converted. I actually think it gives information in a pretty cool way.
Scum could accidentally convert Roden, and then Roden has to claim it and not be cleared.
It’s only if nobody targets Roden that Roden is cleared from being converted.
Finlay could have converted them Night 1, but like I said, I don’t see the purpose of Roden using that role if that happened, so I think Finlay didn’t use a converting action.
Uh, the purpose seems to obviously be to claim to be confirmed town so I don't understand how you can think he wouldn't use it if he was already converted.
"Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
-furtiveglance
In post 1071, Maestro wrote:
like, I'm not sure how this role doesn't literally force a player into conflict w/ Mafia rules if Roden is telling the truth & Cult as I understand it is in this game, & we can't know either of those things but whatever - maybe I should stop talkin
Well, people, both scum and town, don’t know Roden’s Real Name, so if they target their Real Name, and Roden activates it, they won’t know they’re targeting Roden.
Then if Roden self activates and it shows someone targeted them, then it counters the idea that they couldn’t have been converted. I actually think it gives information in a pretty cool way.
Scum could accidentally convert Roden, and then Roden has to claim it and not be cleared.
It’s only if nobody targets Roden that Roden is cleared from being converted.
Finlay could have converted them Night 1, but like I said, I don’t see the purpose of Roden using that role if that happened, so I think Finlay didn’t use a converting action.
Uh, the purpose seems to obviously be to claim to be confirmed town so I don't understand how you can think he wouldn't use it if he was already converted.
Because if it is later found that Roden is NOT Town, by any means, it also incriminates Finley as his only visitor.
Maybe the real Mafia was the friends we made along the way
In post 1084, Maestro wrote:
dumb again, how is this solved by Roden claiming reakname...?
roden has put himself in a situation where if converted he kinda has to immediately reveal that he got converted
if cult know his real name and can thus choose if they recruit him specifically or not
are they going to recruit him or not
Uh how's that? Revealing that someone visited doesn't say anything about whether he's converted. Vist could be from anyone, even cult with a nonconversion action to frame him. We'd have to flip him to know if he's converted, and since people are bizarrely calling him conftown now that doesn't seem likely?
"Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
-furtiveglance
In post 1084, Maestro wrote:
dumb again, how is this solved by Roden claiming reakname...?
roden has put himself in a situation where if converted he kinda has to immediately reveal that he got converted
if cult know his real name and can thus choose if they recruit him specifically or not
are they going to recruit him or not
Uh how's that? Revealing that someone visited doesn't say anything about whether he's converted. Vist could be from anyone, even cult with a nonconversion action to frame him. We'd have to flip him to know if he's converted, and since people are bizarrely calling him conftown now that doesn't seem likely?
If people visit Roden now it kinda feels like they're scumclaiming imo.
ah
sounds like it is out of our hands what happens with deas now
alter of rautherdir
as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
i would still want deas to stay around a bit more but
that depends on if people would allow him to not be eliminated tomorrow and also now just
if roden is fine with staying around
alter of rautherdir
as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
if deas is fine with staying around
i just woke up guh
alter of rautherdir
as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
In post 1139, Theta Alpine wrote:
i would still want deas to stay around a bit more but
that depends on if people would allow him to not be eliminated tomorrow and also now just
alter of rautherdir
as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
In post 1100, ActionDan wrote:
Right so in the words of David wasserman "I've heard enough"
Or specifically not heard enough. I am pretty sold on Aureal being scum in addition to rat.
There has yet to be a word about 5 votes popping up on them when rat became a townread page 3 and as far as I can tell I see no reason Aureal wouldn't have maintained that until now. So to me I sense an awkward reluctance to comment on RR or any wagoner. The pivot to Roden has obviously fallen flat now.
Her D1 was not stellar either. The aforementioned town read on RR was not deserved. The page 8 posting for postings sake was unnatural. The causal suggestion of wanting to yeet lurkers when her scum candidates of DV and Bianco existing is a cognitive disconnect. Not fighting harder for the Titus fade end of Day 1 to me was apathetic. Obviously circumstances eod were not ideal but you can rally.
Scum candidates?? Where did you even get that idea? I'm quite sure I stated at some point that I didn't really have any, just slots that I
didn't
want to yeet, which makes perfect sense with a desire to yeet lurking slots. If the people who are posting seem towny, where would YOU look for scum?
As for Rat, wtf am I supposed to say? I don't understand the sudden wagon there at all, I said as much already. Maybe I missed some context because trying to slog through pages of stuff from work in snippets of often just a matter of seconds like I'm doing now isn't great for having a bead on things; but after nearly 12 hours at work last night I sure didn't feel the urgent need to go reread in a more cohert fashion.
"Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
-furtiveglance
In post 1105, Radical Rat wrote:
It doesn't feel like ending the game would make sense with these wincons, but if that happens you're all free to yell at me in the post-game I guess
Yeah this
That would be nonsense setup design and in that case I'd just be glad to wash my hands of all this
"Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
-furtiveglance
In post 1108, Flavor Leaf wrote:
i just dont think letting DV win is townie this game because that's an extra slot in the game gone meaning its easier for cult to win.
SAYS THE PERSON WHO KEEPS WANTING TO VOTE IT OUT OMG
"Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
-furtiveglance
You have had tangible suspicions throughout the game. And, if you really want to pursue being unable to convert any into votes, then you're a slot that ought to not continue living anyway. I am able to read between lines in your posting history, I hope others are able to do the same
In post 1108, Flavor Leaf wrote:
i just dont think letting DV win is townie this game because that's an extra slot in the game gone meaning its easier for cult to win.
SAYS THE PERSON WHO KEEPS WANTING TO VOTE IT OUT OMG
That was only yesterday at deadline specifically?
Today was just testing.
I agree 100% that in place of NK15 DV was the better option
In post 1115, Radical Rat wrote:
The spicy part of this is that Titus actually has Deas' name in her results, but we aren't 100% sure it's as helpful as that sounds because Deas apparently appears as Town to investigatives, which... MIGHT not apply to Titus because of it being passive mod information rather than an explicit cop, but that's something that should be determinable after the flip
Uh and we know he appears as town... how? You cannot just drop info like that and expect people to take it at face value.
"Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
-furtiveglance
"Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
