Mafia Reunion | Postgame

[SirCakez]

I'm looking at the pool of (Hu Tao, Dan, Theta) right now. maestro flipping scum (unclear if convert or traitor) still unfortunately means that my read of Dan may have been off, which is tragic

[Thomith]

I'm looking at the pool of (Hu Tao, Dan, Theta) right now. maestro flipping scum (unclear if convert or traitor) still unfortunately means that my read of Dan may have been off, which is tragic

Looking at the Role PM, I'm assuming they were an OG traitor.

[SirCakez]

if maestro is og traitor then i think that makes the rest of the fg a lot more likely town
if maestro was convert then that probably doesn't tell us much

[SirCakez]

VOTE: theta alpine
i feel this is the person most likely to be scum right now

[Thomith]

if maestro is og traitor then i think that makes the rest of the fg a lot more likely town
if maestro was convert then that probably doesn't tell us much

I feel like a traitor and a scum in the same hood makes a fair bit of sense?
Granted because Maestro was a messenger I could see that not being the case though.

[Thomith]

VOTE: theta alpine
i feel this is the person most likely to be scum right now

Is this read dependant on Maestro being OG traitor or a convert, or is it unrelated?

[SirCakez]

if maestro is og traitor then i think that makes the rest of the fg a lot more likely town
if maestro was convert then that probably doesn't tell us much

I feel like a traitor and a scum in the same hood makes a fair bit of sense?
Granted because Maestro was a messenger I could see that not being the case though.

yeah it could be, and i've been wrong about hood analysis before when i've thought there was only one scum in hoods that ended up having two. i still don't really get main groupscum vibes from Dan or anyone else in the FG though. i feel like they are more likely to be elsewhere.

[SirCakez]

VOTE: theta alpine
i feel this is the person most likely to be scum right now

Is this read dependant on Maestro being OG traitor or a convert, or is it unrelated?

unrelated, i just think theta has been playing like scum for a couple days now

[SirCakez]

and they also seem like a good candidate for groupscum as they have been relatively under the radar this game compared to some of the popularly discussed wagons, despite imo not really being that townie at all

[ActionDan]

Dan, you feel like a school student gluing things to see what sticks.

Yes that is a great analogy thanks! I am trying to build a complete picture of what makes sense and what doesnt.

[ActionDan]

if maestro is og traitor then i think that makes the rest of the fg a lot more likely town
if maestro was convert then that probably doesn't tell us much

I feel like a traitor and a scum in the same hood makes a fair bit of sense?
Granted because Maestro was a messenger I could see that not being the case though.

In terms of the context of a 5-man hood, sure. But in the context of this game, with these roles, and cumulative knowledge, no. That this is not intuitive to most of the players right now is scary.

There may not be positive definitive airtight bow-tied mod confirmed evidence. But there certainly is a staggering heap of information leading to the conclusion there isn't group scum in FG.

1) conversions due to an FG member circumvent risk and render FG roles impotent (save mine)

2) Nk15's role becomes overly strong and effective.

3) The scum ability claimed by FL becomes redundant

4) Maestro's ability to msg scum does not serve to give out our names, merely to inform them he's the traitor.

5) FG's role pool is synergistic. The one role that didnt make much sense, Maestro's, was scum

[ActionDan]

I reread gamma's d2. It's clear they are scum at this point. They don't crumb roden is town ever. Instead they do that for FL if anything.

Also they dicuss still being ascetic even though Hu has claimed they were informed they lost the ability D2.

[biancospino]

I have a coffee to give, suggestions on who I whould give it to? Looking at the claims only {Dan, Drew, FL, Theta} seem to make sense.

Anyway, I agree with Dan here that putting a Traitor messager toghether with groupscum in the FG doesn't look particularly likely.

[ActionDan]

I'd give it to FL or Theta.

[Titus]

if maestro is og traitor then i think that makes the rest of the fg a lot more likely town
if maestro was convert then that probably doesn't tell us much

I feel like a traitor and a scum in the same hood makes a fair bit of sense?
Granted because Maestro was a messenger I could see that not being the case though.

In terms of the context of a 5-man hood, sure. But in the context of this game, with these roles, and cumulative knowledge, no. That this is not intuitive to most of the players right now is scary.

There may not be positive definitive airtight bow-tied mod confirmed evidence. But there certainly is a staggering heap of information leading to the conclusion there isn't group scum in FG.

1) conversions due to an FG member circumvent risk and render FG roles impotent (save mine)

2) Nk15's role becomes overly strong and effective.

3) The scum ability claimed by FL becomes redundant

4) Maestro's ability to msg scum does not serve to give out our names, merely to inform them he's the traitor.

5) FG's role pool is synergistic. The one role that didnt make much sense, Maestro's, was scum

1) Huh?

2) As discussed no.

3) huh?

4) That's purpose enough. Bonus he can give input.

5) Scum should have good fakes...

[ActionDan]

1) cakez and Drew roles stop affect non-fg players only.

2) the conclusion remains the same for me that Nk15 role is relatively more powerful than anyone else's if 2 scum started in FG

3) see 1) A strongman recruit would only counter me not drew if used by scum in FG

4) I guess. Still lame.

5) Maybe, still doubtful to me. If so bravo cakez for picking a really really good fakeclaim.

[Flavor Leaf]

I have this aching feeling Theta is trying to sway us over to Maestro too, and Dan/Theta is one of my potential pairings.

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Also, asking mod that question from earlier regarding RR role.

[Titus]

What's nagging me is that the FG has flipped scum, they exchanged names yet they are still of the same position as yesterday...

[Hu Tao]

My savior Roden, where do we lay our votes today?

[Flavor Leaf]

What's nagging me is that the FG has flipped scum, they exchanged names yet they are still of the same position as yesterday...

Easiest solution is Maestro saved Dan from elimination

[Flavor Leaf]

Or Cakez is Group scum converting the entire friend group.

[Doctor Drew]

What's nagging me is that the FG has flipped scum, they exchanged names yet they are still of the same position as yesterday...

Easiest solution is Maestro saved Dan from elimination

Or Cakez is Group scum converting the entire friend group.

I tend to believe the former.

It is of course possible that Cakez converted Maestro N1, then tried to convert Dan N2 but was blocked, and then converted him N3, in your scenario.

And if that is true I am angry that he converted them over me lol.

[Flavor Leaf]

What's nagging me is that the FG has flipped scum, they exchanged names yet they are still of the same position as yesterday...

Easiest solution is Maestro saved Dan from elimination

Or Cakez is Group scum converting the entire friend group.

I tend to believe the former.

It is of course possible that Cakez converted Maestro N1, then tried to convert Dan N2 but was blocked, and then converted him N3, in your scenario.

And if that is true I am angry that he converted them over me lol.

They could have done it any night because of the 1-shot Unstoppablizer or whatever

[Doctor Drew]

What's nagging me is that the FG has flipped scum, they exchanged names yet they are still of the same position as yesterday...

Easiest solution is Maestro saved Dan from elimination

Or Cakez is Group scum converting the entire friend group.

I tend to believe the former.

It is of course possible that Cakez converted Maestro N1, then tried to convert Dan N2 but was blocked, and then converted him N3, in your scenario.

And if that is true I am angry that he converted them over me lol.

They could have done it any night because of the 1-shot Unstoppablizer or whatever

There is that as well

[Doctor Drew]

Also I wish there was a tracker of some sort that was on Cakez last night, they claimed to target me.